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On the casualties thing....a game designer I used to hang out with once said at the larger scales there should be no such thing as an attack stopped result with no major losses. At division level and up if command orders an attack it should have some type of effect even if its just heavy losses for the attacker/defender.

I agree with that. Attritional losses are artillery/small company probes local fights along the divisional front. When the player orders a divisional/corps level assault the losses should escalate accordingly not be as low as attritional losses in many cases.

Lets get back to my AAR, but I be more then happy to chit chat in another thread about these 4+yr old topics.

Lvov/HQBU/Logistics ect.

This game is far from over, rkimmi has skillfully saved most of the troops in the Leningrad bulge and has 4.8 million men in his OOB as of turn 12.

I will post as soon as we are +5 turns ahead.

He is doing a good job of not letting me have pockets, but I think he gave ground to easly early on and way over committed in Leningrad area, which seems to be a command mistake these days.

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

ORIGINAL: Pelton

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rkimmi will resign or disappear before the end of the summer campaign. You heard it here first.

I don't think so he is good, we at turn 6 and I am not across the southern rivers.
Its a fun game as he is taking a different approach to defending.

and you were wrong as is normal about smokendave that one will go the distance.

anything else you like to say that will be proven wrong by the data?

Ahem... (cough, cough)

He is good, eh? rofl.

[:'(]

I might be right, its turn 14 and hes got almost 5 million man army.

Turn 9 GHC Armaments: 90,000 Manpower: 27,000 VP: 180

HQBUs used: 6
Armament Pts. Destroyed = 45 (15)
Heavy Industry Destroyed = 32 (8)
Factories: ( Leningrad KV-1,BA-10,T-50)
Manpower Pts over run during 1942 =
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp:
Divisions:
Brigades:
SU:
AP total:
Stavka KIA: 1,451,000 Stavka OOB: 4,437,000
AGN all rail lines are cut and infantry are at the front of offensive. Hopefully next turn I can release some panzers to head for Moscow

AGC pushes another 20 miles towards Moscow and 30 miles NE of Kalinin and 4th Army pushes 30 miles towards Bryansk.

AGS pushes past very light resistance north of Stalino Meto area, LIV Corp pushes toward Crimea and 46th Panzer Corp from AGC starts heading north towards Tula to open up the center. 4th PG is at the end of the logistical chain so will have to rest for a few turns until infantry can push forward, then the drive towards Rostov will begin. I did drop allot of fuel on 2 MoT divisions incase I have a chance to do a raid on Rostov.

Turn 10 GHC Armaments: 88,000 Manpower: 27,000 VP: 183

HQBUs used: 6
Armament Pts. Destroyed = 45 (15)
Heavy Industry Destroyed = 32 (8)
Factories: ( Leningrad KV-1,BA-10,T-50)
Manpower Pts over run during 1942 =
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp:
Divisions:
Brigades:
SU:
AP total:
Stavka KIA: 1,504,000 Stavka OOB: 4,548,000

AGN releases 7 panzer divisions to AGC. 16th and 18th Armys will tie down as much of Russian forces as possible. Stavka has far to many troops in the area fighting for a doomed city. On the up side for Stavka most of the divisions in the pocket have managed to get out, but it will take a long time before they can be of any help to Moscow. Industry trapped in Leningrad 15 AP, 8 HY and all the KV-1,BA-10,T-50 factories.

AGC grinds another 20 miles closer to Moscow. 4 Panzer divisions from AGS should arrive next turn and another 7 PD from AGN.

AGS forms a pocket around Stalino and 17th and 6th Army march east vs no resistance. 11th Army gets to the Crimea land bridge. Panzer MPs are in the 10-15 range and are a good distance past HQBU range. It be turn 13 before HQBU can be done for the last summer offensive to Rostov or a sweep north.

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Turn 11 GHC Armaments: 88,000 Manpower: 27,000 VP: 185

HQBUs used: 6
Armament Pts. Destroyed = 45 (15)
Heavy Industry Destroyed = 32 (8)
Factories: ( Leningrad KV-1,BA-10,T-50)
Manpower Pts over run during 1942 =
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp:
Divisions:
Brigades:
SU:
AP total:
Stavka KIA: 1,555,000
Stavka OOB: 4,683,000
AGN Stavka has done a good job so far not letting me pocket any major formations. I Corp prepares for the assault on Leningrad while the rest of 18th and 16th Armys tie down as much of the Russian forces as possible.

AGC pushes to withen 40 miles of Moscow as 3 more Panzer Corp begin to arrive. The railhead is withen 10 hexes of the forward Panzer Corp HQs so next turn I will do a bunch of HQBU’s.

17th Army is advancing 30 miles per turn as Stavka is retreating 20 to 30 miles per turn. 6th Army and the 1st PG prepare for the next large offensive which should start on turn 14. Odessa gets bombed to 60%, should be 2 more turns and the port will be completely closed.

Beachhead supply for Odessa?

No it has a port.

No supply thru damaged ports, supply trace yes, supply delivery no.???

Sorry I didn't notice it was damaged.

Turn 12 GHC Armaments: 88,000 Manpower: 27,000 VP: 185

HQBUs used: 6
Armament Pts. Destroyed = 48 (15)
Heavy Industry Destroyed = 35 (8)
Factories: ( Leningrad KV-1,BA-10,T-50)
Manpower Pts over run during 1942 =
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp:
Divisions:
Brigades:
SU:
AP total:
Stavka KIA: 1,617,000 Stavka OOB: 4,785,000
AGN prepares for the crossing. 18th and 16th start digging in for winter. Leningrads port is at 26%.

AGC starts its assault on Moscow. 2nd PG heads for Tula and 3rd and 4th PGs push north of Moscow to withen 20 miles.