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RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:13 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: wegman58
I saw this today:
Microsoft’s new ‘privacy’ policy.
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“We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to”, for example, “protect their customers” or “enforce the terms governing the use of the services”.
It seems pretty clear that people who harbor controversial views should probably give Windows 10 a pass. Else the Social Justice Warriors who’re rife in large corporations like Microsoft will report them to the relevant authorities for public shaming and attitude adjustment.
And of course, there’s no risk that this information would ever be compromised by, say, hackers and sold to the highest bidder. None whatsoever.
How comfortable are you now writing your new novel manuscript on Windows 10, sir?
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Roland Dobbins
Not very, but fortunately I don’t have anything on Windows 10 machines that isn’t open. It is disturbing. All your thoughts are belong to me…
Actually the same as all the other providers. It's the same as the way that Google, Amazon, and others targeted ads, relevant content in searches and so on. You can turn off the Microsoft options that share data. I have done so.
For those of you who might buy/have/upgrade to the Pro version to use Bitlocker (Microsoft's whole-disk encryption product), they note that the encryption key will be uploaded (I might have also seen this on Jerry Pournelle's site). If that's a concern maybe use something like VeraCrypt (successor to TrueCrypt) or some non-Microsoft commercial product.
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:37 pm
by koniu
For all of those that want to upgrade trugh Windows Update and still don`t have upgrade available or have errors that block upgrade there is solution for that
This is fix for very common error 80240020(Windows 10 installation folder is unfinished and/or corrupted), but if You dont have errors and just want to force upgrade - start from point two
1. Go into "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download" and delete everything in that folder.
2. Now, run the command prompt (cmd) as an administrator. Type in "wuauclt.exe /updatenow".
3. (if not start automatically) Go to your Control Panel > Windows Update and your Windows 10 should start re-downloading from scratch, hopefully without flaws this time.
For me WITPAE run smoother than on 8.1, very close to Win 7 smoothness
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:57 am
by chemkid
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RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:37 pm
by HansBolter
No joy on the Win10 upgrade. It failed to fix the dead keyboard on my laptop.
Now I'm waiting for online chat with MS support to see if there is anything that can be done to fix this piece of trash I wasted $350 on.
Been waiting for 2.5 hours now to get through to online chat support to get an answer for why installing a new OS did not replace my corrupted keyboard drivers.
Completely frustrated....ready to strangle Bill Gates.
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:00 pm
by Ormbane
ORIGINAL: Numdydar
Today I upgraded a Win 7 laptop to Win 10 Pro and everything when fantastically smooth. All my games worked just fine, including AE and tracker [:)] Obviously ymmv
Given that success, I upgraded my wife's PC from Win 8.1 to Win 10 Home to see if it would solve some issues she was having with Win 8. And the upgrade again went surprisingly well while also fixing her issues. Did not even have to do a clean install [&o]
I did find some surprising facts out along the way though.
- The free upgrade is just that. An upgrade. You HAVE to do an upgrade to Win 10 on a PC BEFORE you can get a WIn 10 license key. Once you do the upgrade THEN you can get the license key by using a built in app and use the newly generated Win 10 key to do a clean install if needed. Or if you need to reinstall Win 10 later on.
- This means that you CANNOT use a USB/ISO image to install Win 10 UNLESS you actually buy a Win 10 license. Or copy the key that was generated from above.
- Nor can you use a Win 7/8 license to install Win 10
- If you upgrade an OEM version of Windows (like what are pre-installed on laptops) the generated Win 10 key will ONLY work on that device.
- if for some reason your computer dies and you did not copy the Win 10 key after the upgrade, you will either need to a) reinstall Win 7/8 and then you can upgrade for free to Win 10 again or b) buy a Win 10 license
After my experiences, I see no reason not to upgrade. Everything on two computers worked perfectly, Steam, Office 2010 (including Outlook), various games. All hardware was auto discovered and worked. It even found all my networked drives and assigned the same drive mapping. The only exception is I had to reinstall my networked printer on both the laptop and PC. But I expected that so I do not consider that a failure of the upgrade.
I hope this help with some of the doubts that were expressed here. If anyone has any questions, I'll be glad to try and answer them.
Would you mind sharing your command line settings? I upgraded to Win 10 today as well and the game now takes forever to scroll.; Unplayable this way.
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:02 pm
by HansBolter
The -DeepColor switch fixed this in Win8. Some one confirmed in the tech forum that it works in 10 as well.
Check spelling on the switch as the case matters and I may not have it correct.
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:16 pm
by witpqs
-SingleCpuOrders might help too.
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:45 pm
by Ormbane
Turns out that for my rig the winner was -dd_sw. Works very fast now. Thanks for all suggestions
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:49 pm
by tocaff
I'm into my second day with 10 after having 7 and 8.1 machines. I'm liking it lots and the game runs fine. I now have to upgrade the 8.1 machine.
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:00 pm
by Reg
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
No joy on the Win10 upgrade. It failed to fix the dead keyboard on my laptop.
Now I'm waiting for online chat with MS support to see if there is anything that can be done to fix this piece of trash I wasted $350 on.
Been waiting for 2.5 hours now to get through to online chat support to get an answer for why installing a new OS did not replace my corrupted keyboard drivers.
Completely frustrated....ready to strangle Bill Gates.
Have you tried a complete OS re-install???
(Upgrades may not necessary replace everything).
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:12 pm
by stretch
I second this.... now that you have upgraded and received your license key, back everything up and do a clean install.
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:44 pm
by Footslogger
So here's my questions. How were you notified to get the download? When you get the download and upgraded, did you loose any data?
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:26 pm
by tocaff
If you're not notified go to the MS site, don't remember where to give the links, and you can download it from there. The "invites" weren't available to me as I didn't show the icon on the bottom right of either machine.
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:49 pm
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: stretch
I second this.... now that you have upgraded and received your license key, back everything up and do a clean install.
I have nothing to reinstall. Laptops, at least this one, didn't come with an OS disk. That's why I was hoping 10 would be new install. Unfortunately, it was just an upgrade.
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:50 am
by koniu
ORIGINAL: Footslogger
So here's my questions. How were you notified to get the download? When you get the download and upgraded, did you loose any data?
I don`t lose any data (all settings and installed programs are in place)
I force my upgrade (look up at post #42) but if You willing to wait, at some point You will have window pop up that will ask You if You want to upgrade to Windows 10.
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:58 am
by koniu
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
ORIGINAL: stretch
I second this.... now that you have upgraded and received your license key, back everything up and do a clean install.
I have nothing to reinstall. Laptops, at least this one, didn't come with an OS disk. That's why I was hoping 10 would be new install. Unfortunately, it was just an upgrade.
You can download Windows 10 ISO image from Microsoft site and burn it on DVD.(link to side in Polish sadly)
https://www.microsoft.com/pl-pl/softwar ... ndows10ISO
If You already upgraded to windows 10 when You do clean install You will not even need to use Key to activate it. It will activate automatically if You only have active Internet connection (Windows 10 activation is bounded with Your Motherboard and is saved on Microsoft servers)
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:01 am
by wdolson
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:48 am
by HansBolter
Thank guys.
I'll give it a try today.
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:21 am
by treespider
Make sure to update your drivers after upgrading to Windows 10. Experinced some quirkiness with my Intel HD Graphics 4600 card that came installed on the new box I purchased a few weeks ago.
RE: Windows 10 due next month
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:40 am
by HansBolter
Latest update in the saga.
Tried everything suggested. No joy.
Finally decided to contact HP.
Turns out thinking it was software related and never bothering to contact HP has cost me dearly.
HP tells me it is likely a hardware problem, but I waited so long to contact them it is now out of warranty.
Could have had them fix it for free, but my tendency to ignore problems and let them lie has bitten me in the rear end again.
HP will ship me a replacement top cover with keyboard for me to install myself for $66.11+tax+shipping.
Now I have to decide if it is worth investing another $80 or so in a laptop I paid $329+tax for.