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ORIGINAL: con20or

and something else big which will not be in the patch but will follow on shortly afterwards.

The, 'something else' was announced today - the patch will be out before that release.

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I've just had a look the preview on steam.....funny how none of the videos or screenshots show the tangled crisscross of formations that happen in the actual game. Unless of course they have been fixed in the upcoming patch!

Yes, but we have a SDK[:D][:D][:D][:D]

A patch bevor release on steam!!! Con20or do
you think we are stupid!!!

Yes - unit maneuvers have been worked on in the patch.

Yes - we hope to release the patch before the steam launch date - as i mentioned in my last post.

There is nothing else I can add to this thread.

And that is also not necessary!!

Greetings to All,
Almost 7 months after release a patch is released to fix bugs. But the patch causes the game to freeze or crash. I almost purchased the game Friday but thought, wait for comments/AARs. As much as I would like to purchase, I am not going to pay for the honor to be a norbsoft beta tester.

I will wait for a COMPREHENSIVE patch before buying,
Back to HPS sims and Histwar

ORIGINAL: rommel222

Greetings to All,
Almost 7 months after release a patch is released to fix bugs. But the patch causes the game to freeze or crash. I almost purchased the game Friday but thought, wait for comments/AARs. As much as I would like to purchase, I am not going to pay for the honor to be a norbsoft beta tester.

I will wait for a COMPREHENSIVE patch before buying,
Back to HPS sims and Histwar

Yeah, right on. Why not go back to Histwar and be their Beta tester. Game was released TWO years ago and is still unplayable. Promised features have not been released and when you visit the forums the only activity is the tumbleweed blowing about. Don't get me started on the user interface. I have bought all JMM's releases in the various guises thinking that this time it will be great. Well no more I'm afraid. Enjoy your long, long beta test.

I can at least play SOWW and enjoy it. Comprehensive patch released after five months, not too bad.

Greetings joebloggs,
Your point on Histwar is well taken and I agree the direction JMM is taking with the new Napoleon version (Histwar II) is turning me off as well. That is why I am waiting keenly for SOW Waterloo to get a single combined patch of the previous patches. If this comes in the form of a new addon or stand alone title, I will spring for it, probably using amazon prime to save on shipping. As I am nearing 65 I don't mind waiting longer, and I am glad you are enjoying SOW Waterloo. I enjoy SOW Gettysburg w/150th anniversary edition.
I am spending time in Spain and Portugal with John Tiller's Napoleon's Peninsular Campaign and look forward to volume 2. I hope SOW Spain will be next for norbsoft since the French/British forces are already fleshed out well from reading/watching AARs in the forums. Then SOW Jena/Auerstadt and then, if I am not pushing up weeds, SOW Austerlitz.
My apology for any offence taken for my prior post as I wait to march to the drums and follow the eagles of SOW Waterloo

Hi rommel222,

No offense taken. Just an open sore as far as Histwar is concerned. So glad I opted for the basic version and not one of the more elaborate more expensive ones. I should have known better after the previous two attempts. LGAaA & Histwar1

I have all the SOW releases including 1st Bull Run and 2nd Manassas from way back when. Still play them. I use to have the HPS games as well. They were good but I prefer the impressive look of my sprite armies as I send them to yet more death or glory. Also, only so many hours in the day, a wife and two dogs.

I'm not a Norbsoft fanboy who bashes any unbelievers or an employee. I enjoy the games for their attempt to simulate warfare in the gunpowder age. They are fun, challenging and never cease to amaze me when I see something different or the AI tries something different. I've probably been beaten or failed lots more times than I have been successful. Keep coming back for more.

I take the SOW games for what they are and do not expect them to be perfect in every way but they do, IMHO, come pretty close. Each to their own.

I take the SOW games for what they are and do not expect them to be perfect in every way but they do, IMHO, come pretty close. Each to their own.

Thanks for the kind words! If you have a steam key for your game - please give a review, every little helps and we would like to make this game a success [:)]

Hi all. I think there are two things very important for the game:

-the reinforcements, I've played with the new patch but they are not available (this is very important according to me in Campaign Mode).
-for a better understanding of the game, according to me an editor is very important. The one we have with the SDK is quite good (a bit difficult, expecially for the large number of windows opening...). But the lack of an OOB editor is the problem. Is it possible to use in some way the Garnier's one for the other games of Scourge of War series? Manual editing of CVS/Excel files is really an infinite work....

Hi konigsberger.

I can't comment about the campaign system, but creating OOBs is very simple once you get the basics, especially if you have excel which makes editing .csv files simple. Best to grab one of the stock ones in the SDK and make a few changes. If you change unit or commander names you have to edit the OOBnames.xml file as well which is an extra step beyond what was needed in Gettysburg but do it a few times and it gets easy. Perhaps I can help if you let me know what you want to do?

- Martin

Hi Mr Digby,

for example : to convert the Peninsular War OOBs KS Mod to Vanilla Game. It's very long to change with Excel or a CSV editor the unit classes. Making a new one starting from Waterloo, as you correctly told me, requires to change the commanders' names and other things, which is a long procedure [;)]. With an OOB editor all things will be easier and faster....

Thank you for your reply and your offer.

Konigsberger

You won't be able to convert the KS Peninsular OOB to run with the stock game because so much has been changed in the KS Mod. The KS Mod sprites are not in the stock game, many formations and weapons are not, and so on.

We never envisaged anyone wanting to take a KS OOB and revert it be played on the stock game. In effect you'd be building your own mod.

May I ask if there is any particular reason you are not using the KS Mod? we did try to iron out those stock game anomalies which shouted out loudest while increasing what we feel is realism and keeping the good fun and gameplay elements (we don't think realism and good gameplay are exclusive - we enjoy both).

Our group has written an OOBnames.xml file compiler. We are testing it at the moment and expect to release that for OOB modders soon.

- Martin

Hi Martin,

thank you. My answer: because I'm not "familiar" with the Vanilla game yet[8|], so I prefer play Vanilla and after play KS Mod , which is of course super! Only for this...

Marco

There is also a XML tool in the SDK, "SDK\SowScenarioEditor\OOBToNames.exe" It merges changes to an OOB csv into an XML file, and can also update an OOB from XML.