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RE: Pet Peeves II
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:24 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: bomccarthy
Game of Thrones is a very interesting experiment in parallel stories - with the TV series now outpacing the books and seemingly going in different directions. Most authors would be livid and uncooperative, but George R.R. Martin's background is in television (he was a writer for several seasons of the CBS series Beauty and the Beast in the 1980s). He understands the time pressures and production limitations inherent in television and seems content to let the GOT screenwriters go where they want.
The "extras" in the on-demand version of GOT, and I assume the DVDs, which I don't have, indicate the two show-runners have met with him in highly secure locations and he has shared in detail where he intends to take the books through completion. They of course are free to deviate under their contract.
That the books are now behind the show is his fault, not theirs. He's blown past several deadlines for the one due.
RE: Pet Peeves II
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:36 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: bomccarthy
Game of Thrones is a very interesting experiment in parallel stories - with the TV series now outpacing the books and seemingly going in different directions. Most authors would be livid and uncooperative, but George R.R. Martin's background is in television (he was a writer for several seasons of the CBS series Beauty and the Beast in the 1980s). He understands the time pressures and production limitations inherent in television and seems content to let the GOT screenwriters go where they want.
The "extras" in the on-demand version of GOT, and I assume the DVDs, which I don't have, indicate the two show-runners have met with him in highly secure locations and he has shared in detail where he intends to take the books through completion. They of course are free to deviate under their contract.
That the books are now behind the show is his fault, not theirs. He's blown past several deadlines for the one due.
Hey, when you are fabulously wealthy and getting on in age, where is the incentive to produce for a deadline?
RE: Pet Peeves II
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:17 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: bomccarthy
Game of Thrones is a very interesting experiment in parallel stories - with the TV series now outpacing the books and seemingly going in different directions. Most authors would be livid and uncooperative, but George R.R. Martin's background is in television (he was a writer for several seasons of the CBS series Beauty and the Beast in the 1980s). He understands the time pressures and production limitations inherent in television and seems content to let the GOT screenwriters go where they want.
The "extras" in the on-demand version of GOT, and I assume the DVDs, which I don't have, indicate the two show-runners have met with him in highly secure locations and he has shared in detail where he intends to take the books through completion. They of course are free to deviate under their contract.
That the books are now behind the show is his fault, not theirs. He's blown past several deadlines for the one due.
Hey, when you are fabulously wealthy and getting on in age, where is the incentive to produce for a deadline?
Maybe that thing our mothers called, at least in the South, "home trainin'."
RE: Pet Peeves II
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:27 pm
by geofflambert
This isn't true is it? Weren't they crewed by either the Coast Guard or the Navy? Is this "having" them like they owned the battleships that gave them artillery support?
RE: Pet Peeves II
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:34 pm
by geofflambert
I am surprised nobody answered, but it appears the answer is not true. I can find no records of the Army "owning" these vessels.
RE: Pet Peeves II
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:39 pm
by rustysi
I didn't think so, but then again...
RE: Pet Peeves II
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:47 pm
by dr. smith
Any squid will tell you: those aren't ships, they're "boats" (said with a sneer).
i.e. any bozo with a paddle can "captain" a boat. [:-]
RE: Pet Peeves II
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:36 pm
by anarchyintheuk
The USArmy operated a crapload of ships during WW2. Fear the wiki.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... tates_Army
RE: Pet Peeves II
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:01 pm
by geofflambert
Thanks for that. I believe the transports and other large vessels were operated mostly with Merchant Marine crews and with commercial contractors managing them.
Also note that the Coast Guard operated many of them.
RE: Pet Peeves II
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:18 pm
by anarchyintheuk
Yeah, 'owning' is probably just an admin term. I imagine the Army was responsible for crew payroll, maintenance, etc. for budgeting purposes. What that meant for those ships after the war would depend on whether they were built for the Army, requisitioned or leased. The contracts for this sort of thing must have filled warehouses.
RE: Pet Peeves II
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:20 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk
Yeah, 'owning' is probably just an admin term. I imagine the Army was responsible for crew payroll, maintenance, etc. for budgeting purposes. What that meant for those ships after the war would depend on whether they were built for the Army, requisitioned or leased. The contracts for this sort of thing must have filled warehouses.
Yeah, that was the real reason they built the Pentagon - so the clerks could file all the contracts!
RE: Pet Peeves II
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:34 pm
by Zorch
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk
Yeah, 'owning' is probably just an admin term. I imagine the Army was responsible for crew payroll, maintenance, etc. for budgeting purposes. What that meant for those ships after the war would depend on whether they were built for the Army, requisitioned or leased. The contracts for this sort of thing must have filled warehouses.
Yeah, that was the real reason they built the Pentagon - so the clerks could file all the contracts!
Imagine all the paperwork they had to do before computers.
RE: Pet Peeves II
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:32 pm
by rustysi
Imagine all the paperwork they had to do before computers.
Sometimes I feel that computers just generate more paper work.[:(]