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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2000 8:37 pm
by Bondy
Stalingrad - No, not perfect but my fave east front film, pretty terrifying.

The Bridge - More obscure, but very well movie.

Iron Cross - Another intersting east front movie.

Das Boot - The most terrifying. As good as it gets.


Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2000 10:49 pm
by Latka
Did anyone see U-571? I never got a chance to see it while it was in the theaters... was it worth watching?

-Andy

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2000 10:58 pm
by Lars Remmen
Originally posted by Latka:
Did anyone see U-571? I never got a chance to see it while it was in the theaters... was it worth watching?

-Andy
The rewievs have been good. So it might be worth watching if you do not mind the rewrite of history...


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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2000 11:01 pm
by Tortfeasor
Originally posted by Wild Bill:
I have always been a war movie addict. It began as a kid. I've been around so long I saw "Sands of Iwo Jima" when it came to the Paramount Theatre back in the late 40s. And some earlier than that.

Without trying to sound pompous or bragging, I have been able to collect over 250 videos of war movies from through today. This includes nearly all the episodes of Tour of Duty.

Now after more than 50 years of watching war movies, which is my all time favorite?

Wow, hard choice! Some stand out for authenticity, some for their entertainment value.

I'm still trying to decide. Right now it would appear to be Saving Private Ryan.

I have to recommend one other that stands out so strongly in my mind. There is no real combat in the film, but it is a gripping tale of Admiral Bull Halsey when he relieves Admiral Ghormley to take over the battle for Guadalcanal. "The Gallant Hours."

Another very gripping one, and apparently little known, is one called "The Victors," following an infantry unit from North Africa to post-war Germany. The ending will stun you!

Oops, more than one. At the moment, however, it's still SPR. I can't get that movie out of my mind.

Wild Bill



Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2000 11:06 pm
by bob lawn
I thought 'All Quiet On the Western Front' was marvellous; I also liked 'Big Red One', Schindler,Bridge Too Far,Bridge at Remagen, amongst others. 'Private Ryan' was too fearsomely close to the bone ever to be a favourite, but i can see why so many consider it so good.

bob

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2000 11:19 pm
by Tortfeasor
Wow 250 movies but not the real one, i mean the Finnish film "The Unknown Soldier",
the old black and wite version from '55.

For so astounding game you have made to us all.

Is there anyone ho would send as a present the "Unknown Soldier",
the old black and wite version to Wild Bill for war evaluation.
Originally posted by Wild Bill:
I have always been a war movie addict. It began as a kid. I've been around so long I saw "Sands of Iwo Jima" when it came to the Paramount Theatre back in the late 40s. And some earlier than that.

Without trying to sound pompous or bragging, I have been able to collect over 250 videos of war movies from through today. This includes nearly all the episodes of Tour of Duty.

Now after more than 50 years of watching war movies, which is my all time favorite?

Wow, hard choice! Some stand out for authenticity, some for their entertainment value.

I'm still trying to decide. Right now it would appear to be Saving Private Ryan.

I have to recommend one other that stands out so strongly in my mind. There is no real combat in the film, but it is a gripping tale of Admiral Bull Halsey when he relieves Admiral Ghormley to take over the battle for Guadalcanal. "The Gallant Hours."

Another very gripping one, and apparently little known, is one called "The Victors," following an infantry unit from North Africa to post-war Germany. The ending will stun you!

Oops, more than one. At the moment, however, it's still SPR. I can't get that movie out of my mind.

Wild Bill



Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2000 3:24 am
by xavier

If I didn’t lost it and you can not found it may be I can send you a copy.
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Well, I will try to find it, but I don't know if there are video stores specialized in movies from east countries in Belgium...
If you find your copy, I will pay you for sending me a copy.

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Pero siempre se puede levantar una nueva barricada y resistir con el mismo grito.
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Si, hasta la victoria siempre !!!...
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XAAL.


Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2000 4:41 am
by Rhone
I find it intersting that Wild Bill, after all the movies, and with apparently the heyday of WWII war movies behind us that the best movie might possibly be Saving Private Ryan. I must admit I have never been so moved by a war movie as I was SPR. Regardless of how historically accurate it was (or wasn't), it is by far the most detailed account in a movie of what war might have been like. And that is an achievement all into itself. IMHO.

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2000 6:27 am
by troopie
"A Bridge too far." for a serious war movie.
"Days of Glory" for laughs. Gregory Peck, Donna Reed, Zero Mostel, Allen Reed" It had every Heroic Soviet Partisan cliche in the book. And it was an American movie.

"The Hill" with Sean Connery (The real James Bond)

troopie



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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2000 4:11 pm
by Fuerte
Timothy Dalton was the real 007.

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2000 5:31 pm
by Supervisor
In no particular order, the WWII flicks I especially like are:

1) The Young Lions
2) The Enemy Below
3) Das Boot
4) Saving Private Ryan
5) Twelve O'clock High


Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2000 8:22 pm
by Supervisor
Here, here. Image The closest to what Ian Fleming wrote yet. Image The first 15 minutes of Living Daylights shoiwcased what the Real Bond was all about. Image
Originally posted by Fuerte:
Timothy Dalton was the real 007.


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Matrix Games Technical Writer

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2000 5:19 am
by Zarquon
But just the first 15 minutes...
Face it, the only thing the books and movies have in common are the main character and the titles.
Given that, I prefer Sean Connery.
At least he had a Brittish car,8)

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2000 5:42 am
by PanzerMeyer
In no particular Order:

Das Boot
Cross of Iron
Saving Private Ryan
Kelly's Heroes
A Bridge too Far
Stalingrad
Zulu
Waterloo
Apocalypse Now
A Midnight Clear
Dr Strangelove (or how I learned to stop worrying and love the Bomb)
Bridge on the river Kwai
Full Metal Jacket
Platoon
Three Kings

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2000 8:43 am
by Latka
I don't know how 007 snuck into this...but Sean Connery is *the* James Bond in my book Image

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2000 10:33 am
by Tortfeasor
Have anyone non finn seen "The Unknown Soldier" the old version from '1955.

if not, well you can get it from http://us.imdb.com/CommentsShow?48752

I think its the best movie and the most realistic one.
Is there any ho disagree.

Date: 27 September 1999
Summary: A Finnish infantry company with machine guns fights against the Red Army.

The movie is based on a brilliant and realistic book (Unknown soldier) about the "Continuation War" between Finland and Soviet Union from 1941 to 1944.

After the initial fast attack phase the war turns into sleepy trench warfare (1942-44), then (1944)the company has to retreat and finally stop the storming Red Army forces. There exists a wide spectrum of characters from cowards to heroes, from peasant rank-and-file soldiers to cocky officers. The scale in personalities and changing situations of war, which are credibly described, makes the movie a spectacle.

It helps a lot if one knows some of the underlying history, but the story is rather universal tale of the cruelty of war and the men who have to live and die for their country and different motives. The language with dialects is versatile, but in Finnish only. This old version (1955) is in my opinion better than the later one (1985).


Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2000 1:16 pm
by Ilja Varha
Tuntematon Sotilas
Talvisota
Das Boot
Rukajärven Tie
The Beast (great atmosphere when viewed with big enough screen and dolby surround systems)

Thin Red is toooooo damn long (30 minutes and I was sleeping), and SPR is too hollywoodish hero stuff (yes, the beach attack was realistic)...


Ilja

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2000 1:38 pm
by Der_Rabe
My order of the best war films

1. "unknown soldier" Fin 1955
(tuntematon sotilas) : Real fighting scenes, no hollywood shit with stars and stripes(no offence). Comradeship, real equipment. Like the scene where scatchel charge thrown at bunker(nice toss)

2. talvisota "winter war" : Real t-26's, creates the feeling to fight against ten times bigger enemy. "hey guys do you thing you could drink one of these molotov coctails? They are from the rajamaki booze factory?"

3. Kellys heroes : The tank crew is just so lazy as i back in the army, while in the heavy transport troops.

These three films are really worth watching.
2 realistic films and one good comedy.

-Rabe

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2000 3:37 pm
by spartacus
Best war movie actor:
George “Patton” Scott (in “Patton”, of course)

Best sea warfare movie:
Das Boot

Best air warfare movie:
Memphis Belle

Best action scene in a war movie:
the landing scene on “Saving Private Ryan”

Best saying in a war movie:
“- Do you believe in God Sargent Steiner?”
“- I believe that God is a sadistic.”
From “Cross of Iron”