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RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:58 am
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: wdolson
I propose a wager, Bill. If, in 5 years time, Houston hasn't recovered much better than, say, New Orleans 5 years post-Katrina then I'll pay up. If it has done a much better job of avoid the economic Armageddon that you predict even odds for, then you'll pay up. Say $100 to the American Red Cross in the winner's name?
I am not normally one to make bets, nor am I certain Houston will struggle severely to recover, I did give it 50/50 odds. Though for a charity like the Red Cross, I can go for that.
OK. You're on. Consider it a bet and we can revisit in 2022.

RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:32 am
by Andav
How about you both donate $50 TODAY so you can help someone TODAY and then the loser donates $50 in 2022 to help someone in need in 5 years from now. [:(]
Wa
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:41 am
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Andav
How about you both donate $50 TODAY so you can help someone TODAY and then the loser donates $50 in 2022 to help someone in need in 5 years from now. [:(]
Wa
Already done. Today. $200 to United Way Houston.
We'll let 2022 sort itself out then.
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:04 pm
by witpqs
A little good news, it seems Harvey has picked up the pace and is moving away more rapidly than previously predicted.
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:32 pm
by Lecivius
Just got assigned THM for setting up a network for Red Cross.
"This is Red 5, I'm going in"

RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:51 pm
by Skyros
We had our 1,000 year rain storm and flood in 2015 and it was nothing like this. Many prayers to all of the citizens in harms way.
I was looking at google maps of the Houston area and realised the USS Texas is located there. I hope the old girl is weathering the storm okay.
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:32 pm
by geofflambert
Here's a donation site I believe is legit. Got it from a local news station there.
http://neighbors4neighbors.org/
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:20 pm
by Canoerebel
Radar shows no rain in Houston at the moment. Forecast calls for good chance of more rain tonight and then drying trend beginning, moving from the SW to NE. NE Texas and SW Louisiana are now in the crosshairs. It looks like the forward motion of the storm will begin to pick up late tomorrow. That'll be key in limiting damage further up the line.
I don't have television, so I haven't seen the news and haven't seen the devastation in Houston and vicinity. 40+ inches in flat terrain, so that the water rises slowly but recedes slowly is a bad recipe when this kind of precip falls.
Best wishes to our Texas and Louisiana compatriots.
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:10 pm
by wdolson
ORIGINAL: General Patton
Thread hijacking in progress....GP
My bad.
We're donating to the Red Cross. All real charities are in need with this disaster.
Bill
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:54 am
by Canoerebel
How's the East Texas contingent of the forum doing?
It looks like Hurricane Harvey dumped between 40 and 50 inches in the Houston area and points NE. NE Texas and SW Louisiana still getting socked. Harvey weakening and beginning to move inland more rapidly.
There's another tropical disturbance in the western Gulf and a storm that may become a major hurricane in the Atlantic. No target is a good one, and not wishing ill for anyone, but I sure hope Texas and Louisiana don't get hit hard again.
My dad owned Hurricane Engineering in Miami for many years. He was a Miami Hurricanes football player in the late '40s and then got into the business of storm prep. I recall going to his office in the '60s and reading weather reports printed on "tape" on his teletype machine. This was about as close to "internet" as you could get in those days. Hurricanes have frequently done weird things, including striking the same place twice. There have been hurricanes that did small loops; hurricanes that did great thousand-mile loops; storms that stalled and dumped two feet or more of rain (I particularly remember Tropical Storm Alberto in 1994); and seasons in which multiple storms hit in the same vicinity (was it 2005 in which four strong hurricanes hit the Florida peninsula?). I've been through several hurricanes. My younger sister and my college roommate lost their houses in Hurricane Andrew in 1992. And I did some volunteer work in Pass Christian, Mississippi, a month after Katrina in 2005. The wind devastation of Andrew was the worst I ever saw. The tidal surge of Katrina was the worst I ever saw.
This got me to thinking - Camille hit the Gulf Coast in, what, 1969? That massively powerful storm was still a hurricane when it reach Memphis - hundreds of miles inland. In reading weather reports about Camille many years ago, I recall coming across reports of damage to citrus groves on the Mississippi coast. Citrus? Mississippi? Really?
Best wishes to you Texans and Louisianans.
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:00 am
by Macclan5
Best wishes to Texas from a little bit north ; we hope and trust all friends here are safe...
Equally important - now - that the recovery is smooth, well communicated, well managed and that you can return to "mostly normal" lives as soon as possible.
Human resiliency is a tremendous thing. Perhaps the silver lining in these storm clouds will be an even greater sense of community for all.
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:27 am
by Lecivius
"You need to set up, configure, and implement a VoIP network for the support guys in Houston. We don't know where they all are, hardware resources are scattered to hell & gone, there is no identified infrastructure, and the power is spotty at best.
Oh, and since this is a disaster recovery, it has to be fail-safe. Get it done, the world is watching!!"
I luv my job [8|] I'm going through Xanax like Good & Plenty. Bright side is the local infrastructure is starting to recover. But man, the damage

RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:10 am
by witpqs
I found this on the NOAA web site the other day. [X(]

RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:32 am
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Lecivius
"You need to set up, configure, and implement a VoIP network for the support guys in Houston. We don't know where they all are, hardware resources are scattered to hell & gone, there is no identified infrastructure, and the power is spotty at best.
Oh, and since this is a disaster recovery, it has to be fail-safe. Get it done, the world is watching!!"
I luv my job [8|] I'm going through Xanax like Good & Plenty. Bright side is the local infrastructure is starting to recover. But man, the damage
Well, if you need a base of operations, San Antonio, Corpus and Austin were only lightly affected. Same with Dallas/FW, obviously. So Houston will have some other regional centers from which it can draw support. And rumor has it that Houston's got a pretty big port too. That should be up and moving cargo within a few days.
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:48 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Lecivius
"You need to set up, configure, and implement a VoIP network for the support guys in Houston. We don't know where they all are, hardware resources are scattered to hell & gone, there is no identified infrastructure, and the power is spotty at best.
Oh, and since this is a disaster recovery, it has to be fail-safe. Get it done, the world is watching!!"
I luv my job [8|] I'm going through Xanax like Good & Plenty. Bright side is the local infrastructure is starting to recover. But man, the damage
Well, if you need a base of operations, San Antonio, Corpus and Austin were only lightly affected. Same with Dallas/FW, obviously. So Houston will have some other regional centers from which it can draw support. And rumor has it that Houston's got a pretty big port too. That should be up and moving cargo within a few days.
I'm not familiar with the Houston area but there were a lot of submerged Interstate highway sections and probably railroad lines on TV. Cargo can move between ship and warehouse but until the highways and rail lines are clear it won't move much more. Still, getting in relief supplies like bottled water and propane tanks for cooking is best done by ship because of the volumes involved. In the Haiti earthquake the airlift of relief supplies was a drop in the bucket but when the first ship was able to unload things started to improve.
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:25 pm
by wdolson
ORIGINAL: witpqs
I found this on the NOAA web site the other day. [X(]
Here is real time river levels:
http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/forecasts.php?wfo=hgx
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:50 pm
by witpqs
Thanks Bill that a good resource.
Seeing you post made me realize that I was vague in relying on context - just to clarify I copy-posted cumulative rainfall totals/estimates for the storm.
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:07 am
by Chickenboy
Lots and lots of gasoline station outages today. Long lines everywhere and most stations out of gas now. The next few days ought to be 'interesting'.
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:52 am
by Zorch
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Thanks Bill that a good resource.
Seeing you post made me realize that I was vague in relying on context - just to clarify I copy-posted cumulative rainfall totals/estimates for the storm.
Harvey dumped an estimated 15 trillion gallons of rain. Incredible.
RE: Hurricane Harvey
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:46 am
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Zorch
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Thanks Bill that a good resource.
Seeing you post made me realize that I was vague in relying on context - just to clarify I copy-posted cumulative rainfall totals/estimates for the storm.
Harvey dumped an estimated 15 trillion gallons of rain. Incredible.
And it's still going...up into Tennessee and Kentucky now. Some areas there may get as much as a foot before it passes. Amazing.