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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Not sure what you meant about "(plus resources)"- there are no resources used in conversion of oil to fuel. Did you mean plus refineries (a necessary asset for the conversion) or just compress the chain Oil->Fuel-> (HI + Resources + Fuel) = Supply a bit? [ I know there are also HI points produced but the Allies basically can't use them].

What I was indicating - evidently rather poorly is I do the same for resources - not that it is specifically related in production.

I dedicate some low endurance xAKs drawing resources i.e Tasmanina to Australia or Suva to Australia... Hilo to Pearl. Ceylon to India

Further just above are a number of responses that most define me... my OCD ness - if I see a demand I try to supply it.

While many counter arguments are probably very true in terms of efficiency

1) As the Allies there are always a number of low endurance lower value ships that can be tasked for oil / resources. Even tankers in the early war.

2) The efficiency metric...

I have never seen it worked down to turns../ days. Some to the more experienced players possibly have or could even point me to a thread.

..but my example is; Eastern USA to Capetown. An Allied Admiral can drain Capetown through 1942 / 43 unless your have significant concentration running fuel to Capetown, then fuel to Perth for example.

That journey even at High speed is some 15 + days (X days) as I recall (??). Then unload (Y days) - then load fuel (Z days) in Capetown for Perth.

2 TK's loading oil with 8800 endurance (and a couple KV escorts) and 10000 gallons each routed safely from Madras to Perth is intuitively just as efficient as (X+Y+Z) as the 20000 gallons will make 18000 fuel and 2000 supply if I recall correctly.

Anyway I am more than willing to be incorrect here and blame it on my OCD.... [8D]

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: Kull

ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

There is a small oil deficit vis a vis refining capacity in Australia (at least in stock), hence the point of shipping oil there. For the ocd types amongst us this is an issue. It's easier to load up DEI oil and transport it from there than from the US. If you don't get enough out of the DEI before it's conquered, you can always load an occasional tk from Abadan w/ the surplus there.

Bolded the most important point in the entire thread. Don't talk to me about what's "efficient" or "necessary". There's a refinery in Australia demanding oil, and by god I'm going to send them as much as I can! [:)]

With you on this one. I'm also the type who siphons off a bit of the fuel delivery to Auckland to send a smidgen to Christchurch to keep the HI working.

I also set up a CS convoy of one short legged xAKL from Hilo to Pearl to keep the LI working.

Where I see a need I attempt to meet it.

+1[;)]

ORIGINAL: rustysi

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: Kull



Bolded the most important point in the entire thread. Don't talk to me about what's "efficient" or "necessary". There's a refinery in Australia demanding oil, and by god I'm going to send them as much as I can! [:)]

With you on this one. I'm also the type who siphons off a bit of the fuel delivery to Auckland to send a smidgen to Christchurch to keep the HI working.

I also set up a CS convoy of one short legged xAKL from Hilo to Pearl to keep the LI working.

Where I see a need I attempt to meet it.

+1[;)]

Ditto.

If it's got industry I ship too/from it.

Run supplies from Capetown to India with AK,s, bacload with fuel to replenish Capetown and then fill th barrels with spam for another trip to the sub continent. I doubt the residual fuel would affect the taste.

Rinse and repeat.

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: Kull



Bolded the most important point in the entire thread. Don't talk to me about what's "efficient" or "necessary". There's a refinery in Australia demanding oil, and by god I'm going to send them as much as I can! [:)]

With you on this one. I'm also the type who siphons off a bit of the fuel delivery to Auckland to send a smidgen to Christchurch to keep the HI working.

I also set up a CS convoy of one short legged xAKL from Hilo to Pearl to keep the LI working.

Where I see a need I attempt to meet it.

Alright! The fans of this game need an updated version that will run more efficiently on current hardware and O/S and include a long list of feature additions or updates! Let us know when you are done! [:)]

Bah. It is more efficient to just continue using the current version. He will probably put some futuristic/todayish interface for iPhones on top of it. It will take at least a day to get used to it. Waste of time. [:D]

Hey! I had a simple question, and it seems I kicked a hornet's nest. [:D]. Yes, I admit to being a little OCD, especially when the alert tab in Tracker tells me a refinery is in need, and I also run those convoys from Hilo to PH, as others do. That's what makes the game so immersive to me. I know it's not NECESSARY and does not affect gameplay, but in real life, I would think the real people would be doing the same to meet the needs shown.

I am enjoying the replies on this thread, as I do on all the threads in this forum. Thanks for making my day, every day, all of you posting here.

Oh good! We hooked another OCD player who cannot resist "the game".
When the game calls, you must obey, obey, obey ...

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Oh good! We hooked another OCD player who cannot resist "the game".
When the game calls, you must obey, obey, obey ...

No kidding. Almost all the people who came for a war game called "War in the Pacific" are long gone. Pretty much all that's left are loggy loonies. [;)]

ORIGINAL: Kull

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Oh good! We hooked another OCD player who cannot resist "the game".
When the game calls, you must obey, obey, obey ...

No kidding. Almost all the people who came for a war game called "War in the Pacific" are long gone. Pretty much all that's left are loggy loonies. [;)]

Guilty as charged!

Somethings got to be 'off' in order to play a 'game' which to most people looks like 'work' - spreadsheets, planning maps, and all.

Pretty much all that's left are loggy loonies.

Hey, I resemble that remark.[:)] Although I've been gone for about 2 weeks, RL sometimes just won't go away.[:D]

ORIGINAL: rustysi

Pretty much all that's left are loggy loonies.

Hey, I resemble that remark.[:)] Although I've been gone for about 2 weeks, RL sometimes just won't go away.[:D]

Oh, c'mon - fess up! You were thinking about the game and making plans the whole time you were away, weren't you!

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: rustysi

Pretty much all that's left are loggy loonies.

Hey, I resemble that remark.[:)] Although I've been gone for about 2 weeks, RL sometimes just won't go away.[:D]

Oh, c'mon - fess up! You were thinking about the game and making plans the whole time you were away, weren't you!

OK, ya got me.[:)]

ORIGINAL: Itdepends

Run supplies from Capetown to India with AK,s, bacload with fuel to replenish Capetown and then fill th barrels with spam for another trip to the sub continent. I doubt the residual fuel would affect the taste.

Rinse and repeat.

You just have to rinse and repeat more, and the bad taste will go away.