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RE: Can someone explain why this division won't recombine?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:16 am
by Yaab
The plot thickens.
"Maybe we got them demoralised?
RE: Can someone explain why this division won't recombine?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:56 am
by Lokasenna
Yep, I'm out of ideas now.
What if you loaded them on ships and then unloaded them? Maybe the game thinks they're fragmented when they're not, and maybe creating a bunch of fragments by loading them on a bunch of ships - and then reversing that by unloading them - will "reset" them. I don't know. Grasping at straws here.
RE: Can someone explain why this division won't recombine?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:14 am
by dave sindel
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Yep, I'm out of ideas now.
What if you loaded them on ships and then unloaded them? Maybe the game thinks they're fragmented when they're not, and maybe creating a bunch of fragments by loading them on a bunch of ships - and then reversing that by unloading them - will "reset" them. I don't know. Grasping at straws here.
That is one of the things that has been so weird. This division was split early on for ease of buyout and transport. They ended up in Sabang, together, and wouldn't recombine. They were part of the force that took Medan, then transported to Malaysian peninsula for the assault on Singapore. They were in Singapore together, and wouldn't recombine. Strat move to Phnom Penh together - wouldn't recombine. By road to Saigon together - wouldn't recombine. Strat move to Haiphong where they wouldn't recombine. Then boarded ships for Wenchow and still wont recombine. I have plenty of other infantry units to complete my conquest of China, so these guys will probably just end up as garrison forces, but it has been weird following this group and the continued inability to recombine. That's why I posted - because I was so perplexed. I've rebuilt other divisions, so I knew it wasnt anything I was doing incorrectly. Thanks for trying to figure out the puzzle.
RE: Can someone explain why this division won't recombine?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:51 pm
by Lokasenna
Make a backup save.
Then change the command on all 3 to something else, and then see if they will recombine. Given your anecdote, that's my current bet. Something is "off" with the commands somehow, even though it says they are all in the same command.
RE: Can someone explain why this division won't recombine?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:11 pm
by dave sindel
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Make a backup save.
Then change the command on all 3 to something else, and then see if they will recombine. Given your anecdote, that's my current bet. Something is "off" with the commands somehow, even though it says they are all in the same command.
I will try this tonight and let you know how it works. It's about the only thing I havent tried - didnt want to waste the PP's. Never thought to do it in a "backup" copy as a test. Duh.... [8|]
RE: Can someone explain why this division won't recombine?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:00 pm
by dave sindel
ORIGINAL: dave sindel
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Make a backup save.
Then change the command on all 3 to something else, and then see if they will recombine. Given your anecdote, that's my current bet. Something is "off" with the commands somehow, even though it says they are all in the same command.
I will try this tonight and let you know how it works. It's about the only thing I havent tried - didnt want to waste the PP's. Never thought to do it in a "backup" copy as a test. Duh.... [8|]
Loka, I tried your suggestion, and it didnt make any difference. Changed all 3 units to the same new HQ ( Sixth Army) and they still wouldnt recombine... [&:]
RE: Can someone explain why this division won't recombine?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:07 pm
by Lowpe
There is a glitch, it happens rarely.
I guess you can't go into the editor can you?
RE: Can someone explain why this division won't recombine?
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:03 am
by ericv
I would love to take a look at the savegame if that's at all a possibility? I can look a bit behind the screens. Perhaps a bit got switched accidentally
RE: Can someone explain why this division won't recombine?
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:48 am
by dave sindel
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
There is a glitch, it happens rarely.
I guess you can't go into the editor can you?
Lowpe, I've never opened the editor so I am not familiar with it. And since this is an "active" PBEM game, I would feel awkward messing around in there for fear I'd really screw up something within the game itself.
RE: Can someone explain why this division won't recombine?
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:41 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: dave sindel
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
There is a glitch, it happens rarely.
I guess you can't go into the editor can you?
Lowpe, I've never opened the editor so I am not familiar with it. And since this is an "active" PBEM game, I would feel awkward messing around in there for fear I'd really screw up something within the game itself.
If you use the extra save that you used when you switched the unit to 6th Army, that should not affect your PBEM.
RE: Can someone explain why this division won't recombine?
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:10 pm
by Lowpe
What scenario number is the game?
RE: Can someone explain why this division won't recombine?
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:18 pm
by dave sindel
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
What scenario number is the game?
Stock Scenario 1
RE: Can someone explain why this division won't recombine?
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:17 pm
by Lowpe
You might want to try and use AndyMac's scenario patch...
tm.asp?m=3198064
How I used it in the past. Japan watches the turn. Japan installed the patch. Japan processes the turn. The Allies load the turn and are prompted to accept the database changes.
You could probably save a dummy turn, install the patch, and then see if it solves the problem on recombining.
RE: Can someone explain why this division won't recombine?
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:12 pm
by durnedwolf
I wonder if it's a leader thing. I seem to recall someone in WiTP having an issue where the leader of a unit was actually dead. I know this is AE but can you look up your leaders in Tracker?