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RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:21 pm
by wodin
ORIGINAL: Kuokkanen
ORIGINAL: stuart3

Nevertheless, I will follow the manufacturer's advice and not spend £100 purchasing as OS that Microsoft themselves recommend me to not install.
You don't have to. You can download Win10 from Internet and install it with older Windows product key.

ORIGINAL: wodin

I say it again: new games are still made for old hardware. Even older than Commodore 64. There are even new operating systems for them. Does this message get through?

Yeah I know at some point all support etc stops....












just messing.

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:32 pm
by stuart3
You don't have to. You can download Win10 from Internet and install it with older Windows product key.
I don't have a Windows product key. Like the vast majority of users, I buy my computers pre- built and with the operating system pre-installed.

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:38 pm
by Zovs
There s/b a key you just have to dig for it. IIRC it’s buried deep somewhere.

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:38 pm
by wodin
ORIGINAL: stuart3
You don't have to. You can download Win10 from Internet and install it with older Windows product key.
I don't have a Windows product key. Like the vast majority of users, I buy my computers pre- built and with the operating system pre-installed.

You should still have the serial number. Only if you bought WIn10 as download or got it free you don't need one, the microsoft website though will know you have it so you can install it again etc.

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:12 pm
by stuart3
ORIGINAL: wodin

ORIGINAL: stuart3
You don't have to. You can download Win10 from Internet and install it with older Windows product key.
I don't have a Windows product key. Like the vast majority of users, I buy my computers pre- built and with the operating system pre-installed.

You should still have the serial number. Only if you bought WIn10 as download or got it free you don't need one, the microsoft website though will know you have it so you can install it again etc.

Ok. Found it. I hadn't previously looked for something that I didn't know I had. But as far as I am aware, Microsoft only upgraded for free in Win 10's first year and they have been charging for it since.

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:20 pm
by USSAmerica
I upgraded both of my computers to Win 10 just before the free year ran out. I haven't regretted it at all.

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:47 pm
by Lobster
When I upgraded to Windows 10 I also kept the Windows 7 OS as a dual boot just in case I didn't like Windows 10 but needed it for newer software. I have never used the Windows 7 OS since.

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:59 pm
by Erik Rutins
Joe,

I understand you like what you have and I don't know what your budget is, but a new gaming system for even $500 with a newer OS will really open up a whole new world of games to you and everything you already have should run even better than before. Unfortunately, in the internet-connected world, an old OS like Windows XP can't be kept secure. I'd advise keeping your old system around as a backup, but also investing in a new budget gaming system. I think you will enjoy the ride. :-)

Regards,

- Erik

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:05 pm
by berto

In the past year and a half, I have purchased four refurbished Windows 10 systems (two Dells from Micro Center, two HPs from Fry's) for < $250 each. They all work great.

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:23 am
by wodin
Seems every other WIn OS is good. We had 95 great, 98 hmmm, XP which was good, Vista yuck, 7 good, 8 meh and now 10 which is another good one.

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:30 am
by Kuokkanen
ORIGINAL: wodin

Seems every other WIn OS is good. We had 95 great, 98 hmmm, XP which was good, Vista yuck, 7 good, 8 meh and now 10 which is another good one.
You forgot 98 Second Edition (better than 95 OEM 2) and Millennium Edition.

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:54 am
by wodin
ORIGINAL: Kuokkanen
ORIGINAL: wodin

Seems every other WIn OS is good. We had 95 great, 98 hmmm, XP which was good, Vista yuck, 7 good, 8 meh and now 10 which is another good one.
You forgot 98 Second Edition (better than 95 OEM 2) and Millennium Edition.

Not including OS updates here otherwise list go on forever..plus who ever had millennium edition??? You certainly like to nitpick

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:05 pm
by coachi
Don’t forget what apple’s doing. Dropping all support for 32 bit games. I just got message that half my steam games wont work after my computer auto upgraded.

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:14 pm
by Zovs
coachi, how do you run window's games on apple? Are all the games on steam compatible with apple?

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:07 pm
by Hanal
The same can be said about iPad tablets....I was getting disgusted that so many games will no longer run on my iPad 4 with IOS 10....I eventually decided however that the only option I had was buying a new tablet. Welcome to progress....

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:03 pm
by IslandInland
In my analogous life I have a ZX 81. I haven't used it since Sinclair stopped supporting it. I also (in my analogous life) have a lifetime season ticket for telegrams but, once again, I haven't used that since the whole Tesla v Edison AC/DC thing...

[:D]

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:20 am
by Zorch
ORIGINAL: IslandInland

In my analogous life I have a ZX 81. I haven't used it since Sinclair stopped supporting it. I also (in my analogous life) have a lifetime season ticket for telegrams but, once again, I haven't used that since the whole Tesla v Edison AC/DC thing...

[:D]
[:D]
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Morse code is no longer supported.

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by Anonymous
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RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:15 am
by Gilmer
I;m with Larry, though not as old. I went in on Windows 10 when I built the current machine I have in 2016. Hey, I liked/hated the old Dos games where you had to know how to edit the ini lines or whatever, to get some to work. I thought that was a "game" in and of itself. So, now that we have had umpteen Windows, I don't know as much as I used to, I don't think, but I can get build a computer, I can load Windows on it, and I can get older games to run on Windows 10. Always help out there to figure it out.

I have had to figure several out lately, by playing around with the compatibility settings and stuff like that. Not as fun, but once you get the game running, you're glad you figured it out.

RE: Are Oldtimers Getting Shut Out?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:18 am
by demyansk
I have ten years now on my computer. Still working well with a few upgrades.