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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:09 am
by Rising-Sun
ORIGINAL: Dante Fierro

ORIGINAL: Rising-Sun

Try the second edition, its more expensive and more depth and details into it, but also much more expensive too. The only problems is that you will need to find a player or two to enjoy it.

Such is often the fate of those of us who actually enjoy these complicated simulations. But there is Vassal. And there will be conventions in future once this pandemic runs its course. Keep hope alive!

Just wish it had better naval rule set, just too plain and simple. I had something made up, just havent publish it yet.

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:42 pm
by Podolano
ORIGINAL: Kitakami

ORIGINAL: Shellshock
ORIGINAL: MBF

I think 2 different board games are being discussed here :-) SPI's War in the Pacific and Victory Games Pacific War - both great games that I played a lot of solitaire due to lack of rural opponents

Yeah, we are certainly discussing two monster games at once here. I think the OP edited his post to indicate he meant the title on the left.



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The second edition of War in the Pacific was released a few years ago. I played the first edition a bit because a friend had both the space and the plywood sheets (it IS a monster).

Nowadays I would go for Empire of the Sun. Much more manageable.


I’ve got the one on the left, from Victory Games.
Mint condition, unplayed and unpunched, which I bought on ebay around 7 years ago.
Used to have War in the West, from SPI, which I made a terrible mistake of selling it.

I’m still hoping to get a hold on SPI Campaign for North Africa....then my dream will be fulfilled.
[:)]

Felipe

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:33 pm
by Rising-Sun
Not sure if you can see the link below, but this the one i have and also have the older series you guys mention above

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/228 ... nd-edition

I got this one from ebay some years ago for 250, rarely been used. I think the retail price is around 350-400.

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:56 pm
by Shellshock
I have to admit some of the reprints and graphic reboots of these old war games are quite sharp. Thanks to computers, printed graphics and components have improved since the day of misaligned maps and half perforated counters. Considering the price sometimes I guess they better be.

However, since many first editions of these titles are still marking time on my basement back shelf, I won't have time for these either, pretty as they may be. [;)]

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:57 am
by Rising-Sun
ORIGINAL: Shellshock

I have to admit some of the reprints and graphic reboots of these old war games are quite sharp. Thanks to computers, printed graphics and components have improved since the day of misaligned maps and half perforated counters. Considering the price sometimes I guess they better be.

However, since many first editions of these titles are still marking time on my basement back shelf, I won't have time for these either, pretty as they may be. [;)]

Yeah i did some work on my project, trying to improve naval rule set for that WiTP 2nd i mention above, here a screenshot i did on some Japanese counters...
https://ibb.co/D85w55g

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:57 am
by Aksully
I've really enjoyed this thread with all the great memories of playing all these games back in California a long long time ago. Amazingly I've kept most of them. Some in better shape than others. Not sure what the market is for these classics today. But may start going through them to make sure they are as complete as possible and see if anyone has the need?

I was pretty excited when I found Carrier Battles for Guadalcanal that was recently released in June. It's a beautiful board-like PC simulation which comes real close to capturing the feel of classic naval style games. At my age with arthritic fingers it sure beats placing stacks of counters!! :) I'm really enjoying playing this game which so far is solitaire only but sounds like there may be a PBEM adaptation coming in the future. But the solitaire version is challenging with a robust AI.

I just wish WITP AE had a simplified game option for supply and such. I managed to get through it. But I just didn't enjoy it as much as playing WITP board game back in the day. Just me.

It just reminds me so much of these games which were for me, more like playing chess than playing a "game"! This thread has been so fun to follow. Thanks all!

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:35 am
by Shellshock
ORIGINAL: Rising-Sun



Yeah i did some work on my project, trying to improve naval rule set for that WiTP 2nd i mention above, here a screenshot i did on some Japanese counters...
https://ibb.co/D85w55g
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Very sharp. [8D] I wonder if they could have pulled that off back in the days of mechanical offset printing where art literally had to be cut and pasted on a layout board. It's a good thing Nato symbols were always so simple graphically.

I've seen some nice new counters proposed for the 1977 title Victory in the Pacific mentioned above.

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:42 am
by Shellshock
ORIGINAL: Aksully

I was pretty excited when I found Carrier Battles for Guadalcanal that was recently released in June. It's a beautiful board-like PC simulation which comes real close to capturing the feel of classic naval style games. At my age with arthritic fingers it sure beats placing stacks of counters!! :)


I keep seeing YouTube videos of people playing with tweezers nowadays. Something I never thought of when I played the physical games. I thought I was being obsessive back then when I used to punch game counters out of their sheets with an X-acto Knife.

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:07 pm
by Rising-Sun
ORIGINAL: Shellshock

ORIGINAL: Rising-Sun



Yeah i did some work on my project, trying to improve naval rule set for that WiTP 2nd i mention above, here a screenshot i did on some Japanese counters...
https://ibb.co/D85w55g


Very sharp. [8D] I wonder if they could have pulled that off back in the days of mechanical offset printing where art literally had to be cut and pasted on a layout board. It's a good thing Nato symbols were always so simple graphically.

I've seen some nice new counters proposed for the 1977 title Victory in the Pacific mentioned above.

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Those look nice, never seen them before.

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:09 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Shellshock

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Now THEY are nice counters! Only slight niggle is the ships look like they've been shortened by making them taller...

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:09 pm
by Cheeks
I’ve placed my order for Pacific War: The Struggle Against Japan, 1941-1945. It had a P500 number and I see that that current order number is 1820.

I’m wondering what the timeline is going to be to get this game in my hands.

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:57 pm
by stretch
Mark Herman kicked his blog back on and indicated that his part of the work will be done by the end of this year, beyond that there are too many variables to predict but IMHO sometime in 2021 is a good bet given that its the fastest P500 ever, to my knowledge.

Relevant blog post link, which also has more information on the new version.

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RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:58 pm
by CaptBeefheart
I used to play Victory in the Pacific and Victory at Sea (Atlantic and Med theaters) a lot in the olden days (late 70s, early 80s). I even had an issue of General which had a way to combine the two games.

I pre-ordered Campaign for North Africa back in high school and waited maybe an extra year for it to arrive (slow development). I used to dabble with the air side of it a bit. I think I donated that to a Goodwill at some point. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.

Cheers,
CB

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:14 pm
by rustysi
I’m still hoping to get a hold on SPI Campaign for North Africa....

Quite an expensive title if you can find it. IIRC I did once, but determined it was too much for a game I'd probably never play. Maybe I'll have a change of heart at some point.

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:32 pm
by Zorch
ORIGINAL: rustysi
I’m still hoping to get a hold on SPI Campaign for North Africa....

Quite an expensive title if you can find it. IIRC I did once, but determined it was too much for a game I'd probably never play. Maybe I'll have a change of heart at some point.
My copy is in mint condition. [8D]
Sorry, not for sale.

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:38 pm
by anarchyintheuk
ORIGINAL: Dante Fierro

ORIGINAL: Torplexed

Well, if you didn't have the time or space or the inclination to read a voluminous rule book, there was always Avalon Hill's Victory in the Pacific. Admirals...grab your dice and Yahtzee your way to victory.

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Heh. Good game. Doesn't have all the detail AE does but box size was limited.

Midway appears to be neutral.

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:45 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

ORIGINAL: Dante Fierro

ORIGINAL: Torplexed

Well, if you didn't have the time or space or the inclination to read a voluminous rule book, there was always Avalon Hill's Victory in the Pacific. Admirals...grab your dice and Yahtzee your way to victory.

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Heh. Good game. Doesn't have all the detail AE does but box size was limited.

Midway appears to be neutral.

That one looks different that the one that I saw.

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:07 pm
by rustysi
My copy is in mint condition.
Sorry, not for sale.

Everything has a price.[:D]

Not that I could afford it.[:'(]

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:43 pm
by GetAssista
ORIGINAL: Shellshock
I keep seeing YouTube videos of people playing with tweezers nowadays. Something I never thought of when I played the physical games. I thought I was being obsessive back then when I used to punch game counters out of their sheets with an X-acto Knife.
Ah, this is where a tradition for the tiny-tiny buttons in PC WITP came from [:D]

RE: OT: Board game War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:20 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: GetAssista
ORIGINAL: Shellshock
I keep seeing YouTube videos of people playing with tweezers nowadays. Something I never thought of when I played the physical games. I thought I was being obsessive back then when I used to punch game counters out of their sheets with an X-acto Knife.
Ah, this is where a tradition for the tiny-tiny buttons in PC WITP came from [:D]

Yes, don't wear out the buttons . . .