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Some projects are and some not. Here typical nostalgia.
Of course WitE-2 (onto Generals mod) but then Road to Moscow and
an idea about hex side rivers in TOAW.
Road to Moscow was too ambitious for its time.
Here part of startmap 22-6 and from start of op typhon.
Goran

Op. Taiphon.
Ai-Ai. Turn 6 4-dec-41.
Game frontline and historical ones from 2-nov and 6-dec.
Occupation dates, OOB, Long. Lat and german airfield marks.
GoranW

Air war 1941. Historical air main movements and those in game -41 scenario.
GoranW

Found some possible errors in the historical set on 22-6.
Therefore avoiding to show this research. Will rework it,
but its also obvious that the aspect of simulation and history seems to be regarded as a bit off topic.
GoranW

Again turn 2 at 29 june. Bialystok pocket.
Onto a "paper map". Base Generals mod.
Game and historical lines. Occupation dates Lat. Long.
German airfield symbols. OOB and fortifications.
Colour coded units on both sides.
GoranW

22-6-41. Axis and Soviet OOB.Some future frontlines.
Onto "Paper or textil map mod". Base original Generals mod.
Occupation dates.
GoranW

Last units in the Bialystok pocket. Ai against Ai. 41-scenario.
2 Maps. To the left turn 4, 13-july. To the right turn 5, 20-july.

13-july units around Bialystok;
7-tank soviet division and 6 antitank brigade
and southwest of Baranowitschi 43- and 121 infantry divisions.
20-july just 121 infantry division left in the same late area.
Interestingly haunted by the 1st Rumania fortress infantry brigade.
Some occupation dates and frontlines at 27-june (blue) and 6-july (red).
Goran

Latest 41-scenario. Situation at turn 15 28-sept.
Game frontline and historical one.
Historical frontlines also turn 10 and 20.
Game air movements turn 10-15-20.( not latest version).
Game OOB. Occupation dates. Lat. Long. Nord-Mitte-Süd borders.
German map airfield signs.Evaluation possible.
Goran

- 41 scenario. Ai against Ai. Turn 10 at 24 aug.
South of Leningrad. Ongoing attack NE Nowgorod.
ANGRIFF = attack and inf. unit 2/58 has a yellow border.
Retreating unit is 220 inf div. (R-ZUG).Also a yellow border.
Compare game and historical border.Game air units
near Luga. As historical mainly JG 54.You can see which units have movement left, occupation dates and 30 Long. and 60 Lat.
German airfield signs. Units type coloured.See Moscow "OberKommando"
just north Narwa.
Goran

Another simulation view. Ai-Ai.
Vistula-Weichsel scenario. Turn 8 3-10 march-45-
Quite historical in the Oder line. Breslau in german hand. Historically it was surrounded.
Map showing a first attack across Oder south of the town Frankfurt an der Oder. 4 Gds (Angriff hex)attacking 281 inf div..(Schlacht hex).
Many routed german units pushed back across Oder. (with R)
units type coloured. German airfield signs.
Goran

Air war -41. German fighting groups.
Geographical location.
Real history location when dates.
Onto a "textile" game map.
Original generals map.
occupation dates in red.
German airfield map signs.
German war map naming.
WitE-2 groups.
yellow turn 1 22-6
white turn 5 20-7
green turn 10 24-8
blue turn 15 28-9
pink turn 20 2-11
brown turn 25 7-12
Goran

Weichsel to Berlin scenario.
Ai-ai simulation.
Ended in Turn 14.Thats 14 april.
In Samland peninsula.
Germany holds Pillau.3 units.
In history " Festung Pillau" capitulated 25 april. Festung Königsberg 14 april. In game Berlin taken and Kurland pocket gone.
Goran

From a simulation pont of view.
Ai-Ai. 41-scenario. Latest version.Turn 20. 2-nov.
Green line historical front.
German air fighting groups historical location with dates.
German occupation dates.Lat.Long.
German and soviet game OOB.

Game quite historical on Krim but ahead north of Rostow and upwards.
Whats especially difficult to simulate
is crossing of Dnjeper at right time.
Of course also the waiting time before op.Typhon
and around Odessa, Sewastopol and Tula.
Goran

Air war /here showing a part of the map/ AGN area during-41.
Fronts at turn 1 .5, 10 15, 20, 25.
22-6, 20-7, 24-8, 28-9, 2-11 and 7-12.
Fighting air groups.
Historical location with dates.
To compare with games.
Goran

Very interesting video. Can be seen in 4K.
WW2 with dates, front changes and man power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CqGeAmVu1I
Goran

Here is AGM air war -41. Above AGN.
Goran

Air groups in AGS. From 22-6 up to dec. -41
Localisation in time and geographically. Type coloured.
Frontlines turn 1-2-5-10-15-20-25.
Occupation dates. Axis red eastwards and soviet blue west of Barbarossa line.
Long. and Lat. German airfield map signs.
Goran

Another view of the Vistula-Berlin scenario.
Again from a simulation point of view.
Quite historical in view of 13 turns.
Turn 13 up to 7 april-45.
Attacks north and south of Berlin and the city surrounded.
2 Berlin hexes as "Festung"
OKH in south Berlin hex together with 2 other units.
Units colourtyped.
Angriff hexes. All participating units in battle with yellow lines.
Fort -levels.
"Degree" of movement coloured.
German airfield signs.
Goran

turn 10. 24-aug.
Ai-Ai.
Game compared to history.
Game frontline turn 10.
Historical frontlines turn 5-10-15.
Historical starting OOB.
Historical occupation dates.
German airfield signs.
Mostly german map naming.
Long. Lat. Army group lines.

My conclusion;
Good historical result for a game
evaluated also as a simulation.
Goran

Another "Planning map", "Lagekarte".
Base for map changes - the exellent Generalsmap mod.
Map projection is from a straight vertical Long.10.
Long. Lat. Mostly german war map naming.
Historical frontlines turn 1-2-5-10-15-20 and 25.
Corresponding dates 22/6, 29/6, 20/7, 24/8, 28/9, 2/11 and 7/12-41
Occupation dates in red are Axis occupation-41 and in blue-42.
Blue dates in axis area june-41 are that of later soviet occupation.
German airfield map marks.
Goran

Amazing post, btw. When I was a young man, I played War in Russia. Now, I just try to come to grips with WitE2.