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Re: Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:16 pm
by 1nutworld
thewood1 wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:02 pm
"I had to substitute Harpoons, that is kinda what the Russian version was based on originally, and then copied by then ally, Ukraine."
Why would you substitute Harpoons when the Bal system is already in the db? Its what the Neptun was based on with only a few modifications. It was stated several times in this thread.
I didn't find the SSC-6 so freaking forgive me! Search results for "neptune" never found me the SSC-6 and apparently I missed seeing that in the comments and didn't look at each attached LINK. I just wanted to see "what if". FFS!
SSC-6 145 DP for it's warhead
Harpoon Warhead 166.6 DP.
According to the Database I really don't think that the extra 21 DP's are going to make a huge difference in the simulation result, do you?? Two missile hits still will manage to take out the Moskva, according to what happened in real world situation.
Re: Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:17 pm
by BDukes
The enemy shall be defeated. Victory will be ours.“
Haha.
Sounds like a line some crunchy old captain gives before the troops leap out of the trench line into the raking fire of no-mans land.
Mike
Re: Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:17 pm
by BDukes
BDukes wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:17 pm
The enemy shall be defeated. Victory will be ours.“
Haha.
Sounds like a line some crunchy old captain gives before the troops leap out of the trench line into the raking fire of no-mans land in a WW-1 flick.
Mike
Re: Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:27 pm
by BDukes
Seems like an expert's reasonable analysis on a bunch of aspects here:
https://twitter.com/R_P_one/status/1515829242801672194
Mike
Re: Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:30 pm
by Filitch
BDukes wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:17 pm
The enemy shall be defeated. Victory will be ours.“
Haha.
Sounds like a line some crunchy old captain gives before the troops leap out of the trench line into the raking fire of no-mans land.
Mike
Vyacheslav Molotov's speech at Nazi invasion
Re: Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:39 pm
by Nikel
Yes, sure, the nazis invaded your country again.
You should get your brain dirty, apparently somebody washed it.
Re: Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:48 pm
by BDukes
Filitch wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:30 pm
BDukes wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:17 pm
The enemy shall be defeated. Victory will be ours.“
Haha.
Sounds like a line some crunchy old captain gives before the troops leap out of the trench line into the raking fire of no-mans land.
Mike
Vyacheslav Molotov's speech at Nazi invasion
Well ok then. How does data analytics handle mild levity?
If your intent is to bang on the Nazi conspiracy thing. The Ukrainian president is Jewish as are a lot of Ukrainians. How does that make sense to you? This is not the place for this debate but Heysus, Marie and the carpenter man, use the big melon of yours.
Feel free to PM if you want to continue. I'm kind of flabbergastedly done.
Mike
Re: Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:00 pm
by Filitch
Nikel wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:39 pm
Yes, sure, the nazis invaded your country again.
Yes, they threaten my country again
You should get your brain dirty, apparently somebody washed it.
Counter-proposal. Open your mind to another point of view.
Re: Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:06 pm
by Nikel
No hope, but I will try.
You will find "nazis" pictures in many countries, including yours.
Will you invade them all? Start with Russia.
Re: Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:13 pm
by thewood1
1nutworld wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:16 pm
thewood1 wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:02 pm
"I had to substitute Harpoons, that is kinda what the Russian version was based on originally, and then copied by then ally, Ukraine."
Why would you substitute Harpoons when the Bal system is already in the db? Its what the Neptun was based on with only a few modifications. It was stated several times in this thread.
I didn't find the SSC-6 so freaking forgive me! Search results for "neptune" never found me the SSC-6 and apparently I missed seeing that in the comments and didn't look at each attached LINK. I just wanted to see "what if". FFS!
SSC-6 145 DP for it's warhead
Harpoon Warhead 166.6 DP.
According to the Database I really don't think that the extra 21 DP's are going to make a huge difference in the simulation result, do you?? Two missile hits still will manage to take out the Moskva, according to what happened in real world situation.
I'm not saying you had to search through the entire database. I'm just saying people already did it for you, if you read the thread. No searching links. Just reading the thread that supplies a lot of context in the thread you actually posted in.
Re: Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:25 pm
by Filitch
Nikel wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:06 pm
No hope, but I will try.
You will find "nazis" pictures in many countries, including yours.
Will you invade them all? Start with Russia.
Ok. Can I see US National guard zigging with swastika at background?
And are western journalist wrong?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/ ... lding-fire
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohe ... SKBN1GV2TY
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/u ... cna1290946
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... raine-war/
Re: Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:53 pm
by Eboreg
I find it interesting that there are no indications as to how many Neptune missiles were actually fired. Basing your attack plan on enemy negligence is an incredibly bad idea and if playing this game for over 2,000 hours has taught me anything, it's that there is no such thing as overkill, only "open fire" and "I need to reload".
Re: Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:12 pm
by Gunner98
Filitch wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:25 pm
And are western journalist wrong?
I have no intention of getting into this flurry of opinion but in response to this specific question ----
Usually.
Re: Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:12 am
by thewood1
Eboreg wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:53 pm
I find it interesting that there are no indications as to how many Neptune missiles were actually fired. Basing your attack plan on enemy negligence is an incredibly bad idea and if playing this game for over 2,000 hours has taught me anything, it's that there is no such thing as overkill, only "open fire" and "I need to reload".
As I stated above, it couldn't have been more than eight regardless. Thats all they ever had in inventory, according to Jane's. And even then, its not known how many were actually operational.