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Joel Billings wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:12 pm I agree that balance is different for H2H versus AI play. With the AI, players can and do adjust the difficulty to come up with their desired play level. For H2H it is tougher. But it is possible to use a bid system to balance the game to the levels that you believe your H2H players are at. One way if you don't care about side is to bid for side using morale help as the factor. Basically, the player willing to give up a higher morale help level gets to pick the side. Players can also come up with adjustments to the victory conditions to incentivize players to act a certain way, but if the issue in your games is that the German player can't make it as far as you think he should be able to in 41, then you probably have to balance with morale help. This could be combined with adding some extra VPs to certain objectives that you'll only add on for the Germans, so as to encourage them to push further in 41/42, but this would have to be done offline.

We try to balance the game for H2H and AI, but it's near impossible to do that (and that isn't even accounting for skill levels of the players, so it's really a multi-variable problem). It used to be that we assumed 90%+ of the games played were AI games, so clearly getting a good AI balance is important. IIRC, we may have seen stats that as many as 30-40% of the players play some H2H, although the numbers that only play H2H once they learn the game are probably around 10-20% at most. I don't think we can solve this for all situations, so I encourage those of you that play H2H find house rules or other edited changes to get a game of your liking. One thing is that we hope we're no longer making changes that have a big impact on game balance (like some of the earlier versions did). So you should be able to make adjustments based on recent experience and they should continue to apply.

MaximKI wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 3:14 pm New Features and Rule Changes
• Editor – On the OB tab of the old editor, the centre column now contains a “Counter Idx” entry for each OB as well as a visual showing the counter symbol being used. This allows editors to change the counter symbol used by units using each OB. The default value of 0 uses the original system of symbols, which relied on the unit type info and some hard coded adjustments by OB slot number. By entering a 3-digit value, different symbols can be assigned to each OB. The first digit represents the row, and the next two digits represent the column for the location of the symbol in the counter art files (found in the dat/art/units folder). Rows and columns start counting from 0, so the Panzer symbol is symbol 100 (row 1, column 00, the ski symbol is 212, row 2, column 12). The counter symbol shown changes to reflect any new value you’ve entered. Modders can add additional symbols in the blank spaces on the right of columns 1 and 2, although there are several different sized files, as well as a non-NATO counter set, and all would need to be modded. Note: Air HQs and City Forts use pre-assigned symbols that override the OB Counter Idx.

Joel Billings wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:58 pm What you show as 123 is actually 122, because the first item in that row is 100, not 101. Programmers count from 0. So 123 in game is a blank spot.

Joel Billings wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:50 pm The 153 is probably a wrap around equal to the 223. As for what you see at location 123, my 123 is blank in the art. Are you using a modded set? If not, what counter set file are you looking at. In my sets, 123 is blank.

Joel Billings wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:58 pm What you show as 123 is actually 122, because the first item in that row is 100, not 101. Programmers count from 0. So 123 in game is a blank spot.

MaximKI wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 3:14 pm o Panzer M13/40 735(i) 0396) – Maximum Imports increased from 0 to 200; Import From ID changed from 0 to 180; Type changed from Foreign Medium Tank to Foreign Light Tank; First Month changed from 9 to 10; Build Cost increased from 1 to 171 and Build Limit increased from -1 to 5.
o Panzer M15/42 738(i) (0397) – Maximum Imports increased from o to 200; Import From ID changed from 0 to 181; Type changed from Foreign Medium Tank to Foreign Light Tank; First Month changed from 9 to 10; Fuel Use increased from 42 to 45; Build Cost increased from 1 to 192 and Build Limit increased from -1 to 5.
o Stug M42 850(i) (0406) – Maximum Imports increased from 0 to 100; Import From ID changed from 0 to 184; First Month changed from 9 to 10; Build Cost increased from 1 to 129 and Build Limit increased from -1 to 3.
o Stug M42 851(i) (0407) – Maximum Imports increased from 0 to 100; Import From ID changed from 0 to 188; First Month changed from 9 to 10; Fuel Use increased from 38 to 45; Build Cost increased from 1 to 150 and Build Limit increased from -1 to 2.
o Stug M43 852(i) (0408) – Maximum Imports increased from 0 to 50; Import From ID changed from 0 to 185; Fuel Use decreased from 71 to 43; Build Cost increased from 1 to 150 and Build Limit increased from -1 to 1.
o Stug M43 853(i) (0409) – Maximum Imports increased from 0 to 50; Import From ID changed from 0 to 185; First Month changed from 9 to 10; Fuel Use decreased from 71 to 43; Build Cost increased from 1 to 155 and Build Limit increased from -1 to 1.
o AB41 201(i) Armored Car (0411) – Maximum Imports increased from 0 to 130; Import From ID changed from 0 to 187; First Month changed from 9 to 10; Build Cost increased from 1 to 95 and Build Limit increased from -1 to 5.
o StuG L6 47/32 630(i) (0442) – Maximum Imports increased from 0 to 78; Build Cost increased from 68 to 69 and Build Limit increased from -1 to 6.
o 122mm M1909 Howitzer (0523) – ACC decreased from 175 to 0.
o Lorraine (SdKfz-135/2) (0544) added.
o Panzer L3 731(i) (0545) added.
o Panzer L6 733(i) (0546) added.

1. example: If the Germans took over 200 Tanks of type X historically, and those tanks were only produced before Italy surrendered, why is there a weekly production of e.g. 5 tanks instead of giving all those 200 tanks straight into the Pool or "spawning" them in with a Dummy Division?
2. most Italian equipment vanishes when Italy surrenders by 100% when inside any Division?! So in the end instead of producing 200 Tanks (example above) you end up producing none, unless there has been some stock in the Pool when Italy surrendered, which is unlikely.

• 202nd Panzer Battalion
• 12th zbV Panzer Battalion

Arthurius wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:24 pm How can I edit national morale level and Aircraft in new editor? Now I can change nation name and aircraft name only.