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Joseignacio wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 1:31 pm Anyone can post whatever he feels like, but I would like not to see so much wishful thinking here, asking for impossible things instead of being practical and asking for possible things.

Anyone who has played board WIF, or enough MWIF for the matter, knows perfectly well that it is impossible at this time to make an AI for a game with such complicated rules, so many different units that allow different strategies (like MAR or PARA for example) which permit invasions, paradrops by surprise, naval support, air combat..., not to speak of complicating the situation with optionals, which affect directly to strategy and tactics greatly, like "In The Presence Of The Enemy".

Besides, according to the comments of some of the best informed in the forum, there is few communication between Steven and the Beta Testers, and even at smaller maps like the introductory Barbarossa, which is very limited in scope and mainly about land combat and only two powers, the AI doesnt advance, and nowadays after one or two years is still far from complete. In spite of Steven experience in AI in his previous career, and his great interest in developing one for MWIF.

So, calling for advances on this matter, which does not go forward and it is clearly undoable, is also calling for diverting resources for other matters that should be possible, like more scenarios, resolving the growing bugs number, et al.

jaeenox wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 7:38 pm

Joseignacio wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 1:31 pm Anyone can post whatever he feels like, but I would like not to see so much wishful thinking here, asking for impossible things instead of being practical and asking for possible things.

I don't think the poster that I answered was asking for a fully complete functional AI and neither am I. I would just like access to what is available. It's pretty obvious this Steve person has checked out, if he is not even communicating with the official beta testers. What could it hurt to release what is available to the public. Maybe someone else could do better.

All I asked was "can open beta users be granted access to the WIP AI."

Magpius wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:34 am Is there any indication or comms as to when the next update will be made available? as it's been over a year since 07.00.01 was released.
(I'm assuming it is still being worked on).

JamesHunt wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 11:07 am

jaeenox wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 7:38 pm

Joseignacio wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 1:31 pm Anyone can post whatever he feels like, but I would like not to see so much wishful thinking here, asking for impossible things instead of being practical and asking for possible things.

I don't think the poster that I answered was asking for a fully complete functional AI and neither am I. I would just like access to what is available. It's pretty obvious this Steve person has checked out, if he is not even communicating with the official beta testers. What could it hurt to release what is available to the public. Maybe someone else could do better.

Yes and should be obvious by reading my post. Other poster jumped too fast out of the bush. No offense but at least attempt to do proper reading before immediately pressing reply. Otherwise it can litter discussions and causes confusion.

All I asked was "can open beta users be granted access to the WIP AI."

Thanks for your modding contributions btw.

eouellet wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 11:43 pm

All I asked was "can open beta users be granted access to the WIP AI."

The short answer is no, not at this time.

The longer one is that it has been over 2 years since Matrix (well one programmer) is working exclusively on the AI, and it has nothing to show for. The official beta testers are under a NDA, but they said that they are not very busy with testing. Bottom-line there is not much to work with, and there are signs that it might never get finished anyway. You can approach Matrix and try to sign up as a formal beta tester, but I don't know if they still take people.