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RE: New Beta 7/22/04
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:12 pm
by aquietfrog
In the lights, between a Slugger and a Bloodhound, which would you choose?
RE: New Beta 7/22/04
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:21 pm
by Sleeping_Dragon
Tough call.
1 v 1. Probably the Bloodhound, just cause I like the AC12s.
On a squad, probably the Slugger and use it in more of a support role.
If you mean, which would I choose to drop out of the database if I had too, it would be the Slugger. Not that many AC12's in the lights.
RE: New Beta 7/22/04
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:37 pm
by Sleeping_Dragon
Just playing around in the database now. hehe [:)]... For my playstyle, I'd take the Bloodhound, lose the ECM and add +2HR and a BC6 with some minor armor changes.
RE: New Beta 7/22/04
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:56 pm
by aquietfrog
So the Bloodhound plays more of a standoff attack role whereas the Slugger is more of a support role? So they're different enough...
RE: New Beta 7/22/04
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:41 am
by Burzmali
Don't lose the Slugger, it's the bomb yo! Honestly, it's range advantage can really make the difference if it can maintain some distance on it's opposition, a good trip and staggered fire can put you way ahead on the AP front. Though, I think I modded mine for a better scanner or BC in exchange for some armor or DCS or something... I'll have to see if it is still sitting in my squad's garage.
RE: New Beta 7/22/04
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:18 am
by Sleeping_Dragon
ORIGINAL: Burzmali
Don't lose the Slugger
Don't worry, it's not going anywhere. It does it's job admirably[:)]
I think Aquietfrog was just noteing the similiarities it has with the Bloodhound (and the Spear and Cutthroat). All 4 can fill similiar roles but thier are differneces. For MY playstyle I like the Spear or Cutthroat as a support titan, the Bloodhound as a more of a near frontline titan, and the Slugger as a support titan that can close to the frontline with no real problems, sorta a Jack-of-all-trades when it comes to Cannon based lights, but that's just me.
RE: New Beta 7/22/04
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 3:38 am
by aquietfrog
I've always overlooked the slugger and had prefered the Bloodhound for its big guns, just that recently in my Hard Core game, I've been encountering it and noticed that it's a very effective titan (meaning, I've been losing a lot when faced against them). Been seeking some enlightenment on how it is different from the Bloodhound... now it's clear to me that it has flexibility as its advantage. I'll be looking forward to getting this titan in the future.
Next Beta 08/25/04
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:04 pm
by Sleeping_Dragon
Here's the latest Extended database.
May be the 'final' one, atleast for a while unless something 'major' pops up. Will keep 'tweaking' when I find a titan that can benefit from it, but it's getting harder and harder to find titans that need it.
Here's a list of changes fromt he last 'beta'
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Starfire: SLs moved to arms
Catapult: Flares and scanner swap location
Raven: eng -1, armor swaps, heat improvement (-0.20C/sec), +armor
Gladiator: -1 flare, +1 DCS
Hephestus: -1LS, -1scan, +DCS
Terminator: -2AC7, +AC20, +MG, +ammo
Swashbuckler: -1scan, -1flare, -1ECM, +1 engine
Scarab: -1LS, -1flare, +1shield
Tempest: -ML, -1JJ, -flares, -armor, +EMP, heat improvement (-0.30C/sec)
Hitman: Replaced by Ninja
Viper: -HMG,-PL, -eng, +2LMG, +2BC, +DCS1, +1LS, +flare1
Kastuo: +1LS.... duh, why did this design have a ton of free weight?
Ocolet: -1eng, -1flare, +1HR (-0.33C/sec improvement)
Crossbow: Major overhaul, now a dedicated SRM titan
Longbow: Major overhaul, now a dedicated LRM titan
Fire Drake: Major overhaul, now has 3NM14, 1NM7, and a FT
Manticore: Major overhaul, now has +2SRMs
Gorgorath: Renamed Gorgon
Pillager: -2ML, +PL, +1shield, other minor changes
Rhino: -1LS, -2 ECM -AC12, +AC20, +flare1
Armadillo: -EMP, -1Scan, -small armor, chassis swap, +1 engine, heat improvement (-0.32C/sec)
Phobos: -2VC, -1LS -ECM, -armor, +3 NM7, heat improvement
Gurusami: -1 eng, -ammo, -minor armor, +2HR (-0.84C/sec improvement)
Dispruptor: armor tweaks, -minor armor, heat improvement (-0.12C/sec)
Salamander: armor tweaks, -minor armor, heat improvement (-0.30C/sec)
Gravedigger: Replaced by Verdict
Lycanthrope: Peplaced by Samurai
Daemon Lord" -armore, +1LS
Axeman: -4flare, -1scan, -1JJ +MG, +1HR, (-0.69C/sec improvement), minor AP changes
Prowler: -1BC, +1flare, +1LS
Predator: -2NM7, +2SRMs
Rifleman: Replaced by Cyclops
Guardian: armor re-adjustment, +2AP arms
Thunderclap: renamed Thunder
Berserker: -2BC, +1HR (-0.34C/sec improvement)
Pirahna: armor tweaks, -armor, heat improvement -0.24C/sec
Timberwolf: Replaced by Barracuda
Apparition: Replaced by Talon
Harbinger: Replaced by Tsunami
Lotus: Replaced by Hurricane
Katsuo: -2NM14, +2NM7, +1 DCS, +1 Scan, +Armor (especially legs), Heat Improvement (-0.51C/sec)
Spear: Minor armor tweaks, weapon relocation, +1BC
Bloodhound: -ECM, -1eng, +2BC, +1 LS, +2HR (-0.49C/sec heat improvement)
Sabertooth: Major overhaul, -electronics, + heat reduction
RE: Next Beta 08/25/04
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:43 am
by elmo3
I get an error trying to download the file.
RE: Next Beta 08/25/04
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:16 am
by Sleeping_Dragon
I think it's something wrong with the forums[:@]
I get the error trying to download ANY attachment (not just the one in this thread). Hope it will clear up soon.
RE: Next Beta 08/25/04
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:50 am
by aquietfrog
I got the database fine, what browsers are you using?
RE: Next Beta 08/25/04
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:21 am
by Peter Why
Windows 2000, Outlook Express. I fail, too .. it supposedly can't find the file.
RE: Next Beta 08/25/04
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:40 am
by elmo3
ORIGINAL: aquietfrog
I got the database fine, what browsers are you using?
IE. The error says IE can't open the site. Tried "save as" too but got the same error.
RE: Next Beta 08/25/04
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:19 am
by aquietfrog
That's odd. I'm using Mozilla and it works just fine. Maybe the forum has browser incompatibilities?
RE: Next Beta 08/25/04
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:07 pm
by Sleeping_Dragon
IE here also... Everythig worked fine up till yesterday. Grrrrrr[:@] I send the admin a e-mail. hope it gets fixed
RE: Next Beta 08/25/04
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:22 am
by aquietfrog
You renamed the Sparrowhawk to Pulsar?
RE: Next Beta 08/25/04
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:20 pm
by Sleeping_Dragon
ORIGINAL: aquietfrog
You renamed the Sparrowhawk to Pulsar?
Yeah, Iceman suggested the change. I thought it was a good idea at the time, but now I'm starting to have second thoughts.... I think I got used to 'Sparrowhawk' since it's been named that in my database since NeferiousNoel originaly posted it quite a while ago and now I sorta miss the name[8|] ...go figure. Since others may not have the attachment to the name that I did, I left it as Pulsar as it's a good 'discriptive' name.
If others want to change it back let me know and I'll change it back.
RE: Next Beta 08/25/04
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 9:45 am
by LarkinVB
I can't download too. Please send by email.
RE: Next Beta 08/25/04
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:19 pm
by Sleeping_Dragon
For anyone out there that can download the attachment.. I just swapped it out with an 'updated' version that cleaned up a few thing behind the scenes, nothing that effects gameplay other then a few titans may be a $1 or 2$ cheaper/more expensive and I changes the Sparrowhawk/Pulsar back to Sparrowhawk.
For anyone that wants a copy and can't download it, drop me a PM with a e-mail address in it and I'll e-mail to you. If the attachment problem witht he forums don't get fixed soon maybe we can get someone to posted it as a download at another location?
RE: Next Beta 08/25/04
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:28 pm
by LarkinVB
I will do soon.