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RE: Something Strange.. #7

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:36 pm
by rtrapasso
No- not German (not in European Theater of Operations) - also not in Africa, South America, North America, Antarctica, and never made it to Australia (although it came close to Australia)... [:D]

RE: Something Strange.. #7

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:48 pm
by String
um.. NZ then?

RE: Something Strange.. #7

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:51 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: String

um.. NZ then?

Nooo...

OK - how about not Allied.

RE: Something Strange.. #7

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:53 pm
by Twotribes
Must be Japanese

RE: Something Strange.. #7

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:59 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Twotribes

Must be Japanese
Yea! Half a cookie to Twotribes! [:D]

Now - what kind, and where? Clue - this is the first time the Allies ran into this Gizmo (they were VERY surprised when they did). Another clue - it was before Jan 1, 1943.

RE: Something Strange.. #7

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:13 pm
by Twotribes
Well that doent leave many places, either Guadalcanal or New Guine

RE: Something Strange.. #7

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:35 pm
by rtrapasso
OK - so do, you want to try to guess where? And maybe what?

RE: Something Strange.. #7

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:27 pm
by rhondabrwn
I would guess that it was deployed in the Solomon islands, perhaps to defend Rabaul?

Wild guess (for the moment) I'm researching Japanese radar now.

RE: Something Strange.. #7

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:36 pm
by rhondabrwn
I'm guessing it must be a Type 11 radar as the other, later, Japanese radars were all mobile.

Type 11

Became Operational: June 1943
War Status: used operationally in war
Installed: ground shore fixed
Purpose: anti-air
Wavelength: 300 cm
Peak Output: 40 kw
Transmitter: parallel two wire
Receiver: UN-954
Detector: RE-3
Detected: aircraft, group at 250 km, single at 130 km
Weight: 8700 kg
Number Built: 30
Antennae: dipole array with mat type reflector, send and receive separate use

Source: http://www.combinedfleet.com/radar.htm

RE: Something Strange.. #7

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:50 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn

I'm guessing it must be a Type 11 radar as the other, later, Japanese radars were all mobile.

Type 11

Became Operational: June 1943
War Status: used operationally in war
Installed: ground shore fixed
Purpose: anti-air
Wavelength: 300 cm
Peak Output: 40 kw
Transmitter: parallel two wire
Receiver: UN-954
Detector: RE-3
Detected: aircraft, group at 250 km, single at 130 km
Weight: 8700 kg
Number Built: 30
Antennae: dipole array with mat type reflector, send and receive separate use

Source: http://www.combinedfleet.com/radar.htm

Well... I think you got it. Unforfortunately, the Combined Fleet site does not list this radar the same way my reference does. Thanx for the URL!

You get the cookie! [:)]

This is a Japanese Navy 3m Fixed Air Warning Radar model 1 mark 1. It was one of two captured at Guadalcanal in August 1942 when the Marines took Henderson Field. The radar experts were stunned at this discovery. I was surprised myself, as I think I've read about 10 books on Guadalcanal, and I don't remember them mentioning anything like this. I think the Combined Fleet site Type 11 actually means type 1 model 1. The size and frequency are the same. The reference I have says that it was 5 kw power, and also says it was operational before June 1943.

The Allied fleet pulled out after the Battle of Savo Island, and the radar sets (SCR270's) did not get landed, so the US troops tried to run these two beasts. I don't think they succeeded, though, as the same source says that Guadalcanal didn't have radar coverage until some time later.

RE: Something Strange.. #7

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:14 pm
by rhondabrwn
Hmmm.... cookie..... munch munch munch [;)]

RE: Something Strange.. #7

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:24 pm
by rtrapasso
Actually, you get another cookie for guessing the site - Solomons (Guadalcanal). So enjoy your cookie! Guaranteed non-fattening! [:D]

RE: Something Strange.. #7

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:26 am
by Hornblower
Interesting. I never knew. nice post