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RE: Will this be the game Imperial Glory isn't.
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:24 pm
by TheHellPatrol
ORIGINAL: max_h
its a shame to mention CoG and IG in the same thread [:-]
[X(]It's a game...what is a game you may ask?...something that is "fun", not a recreation of history[8|]. I didn't start this topic so don't wag your finger at me[:-][:'(][;)].
We agree on one point herr max: IG and COG do NOT belong in the same thread...but hey...if you put peanut butter on a cheese sandwhich does it become a peanut butter sandwhich?
Crown Of Glory is a historical simulation, nobody is going to yell that it wasn't what they thought it was...nobody!
Imperial Glory is an RTS game with a Napoleonic dressing thrown on top, if you don't like it fine...i do...will it take time away from COG?, nope[8|].
RE: Will this be the game Imperial Glory isn't.
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:50 pm
by Erik Rutins
Please let's keep this discussion as civil as possible, we don't want to see this turn into an anti-IG thread.
RE: Will this be the game Imperial Glory isn't.
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:28 pm
by ioticus
Queeg, that was the best summary of RTW's shortcomings I've read. My hat's off to you [8D]. I'm just pissed that all the reviews of RTW were glowing when it was released and they didn't mention *any* of the things you pointed out. Apparently they were blinded into a state of moronity by all the fancy graphics [8|] I fell for it hook, line, and sinker [:@]
RE: Will this be the game Imperial Glory isn't.
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:47 pm
by ravinhood
CoG, to me, is more like a fine red wine that has already hit its prime and will only improve with age.
Lol Erik that statement sounds a lot like patches are a high probability. lol
Let's just hope the AI in COG will live up to the test of the grogs.
Cause as bad as I want EIA's which is taking you guys forever to release, I'm thinking about getting COG since it's not 60 GD dollars. lol I saw it at NWS for $44.99 or around that figure, fair price for a retail game just released.
RE: Will this be the game Imperial Glory isn't.
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:16 am
by Queeg
IG and COG look to me to be very different animals and I don't think a preference or distaste for one will have much bearing on the other. I enjoy IG very much. But for very different reasons than I suspect I'll like COG.
I'm having great fun with IG. But I'm also looking forward to June 30.
RE: Will this be the game Imperial Glory isn't.
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:07 pm
by ravinhood
I'm having great fun with IG. But I'm also looking forward to June 30.
Me too Queeg.
Is this game PBEMable? Also how many MB's of a download is it, I'll probably have to wait on the boxed/cd version since I only have dialup. But, NWS is pretty good about getting the games out fast so I shouldn't have to wait too long for it to arrive.
RE: Will this be the game Imperial Glory isn't.
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:14 pm
by bluemonday
ORIGINAL: ravinhood
Is this game PBEMable? Also how many MB's of a download is it
From info in other threads, the game is PBEM-able and will be about a 400MB download.
RE: Will this be the game Imperial Glory isn't.
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:25 am
by Uncle_Joe
Yeah, I enjoyed IG a lot more than I expected I would have. Its really very light entertainment roughly centered on the Napoleonic period. But its historical accuracy is near nil. I liken it to Imperialism 2 which I still play to this day...a fun strategy game with a rough historical background.
I came to enjoy the tactical battles and even the naval battles when kept to a size of 4 or less on my side....any bigger and I just auto-calc'ed it. Obviously there are plenty of improvements that could be made to make the game better, but even 'out of the box', I enjoyed it quite a bit and spent one too many nights saying 'one more turn!' until way too late...If they ever patch it to include even just the most rudimentary of the suggestions being posted by the majority of the player, it could remain on my HD for quite some time for exactly what it is...a fun diversion in the form of a strategy game with fantastic graphics and flavor.
Thats my $.02 on it.
RE: Will this be the game Imperial Glory isn't.
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:43 am
by Queeg
ORIGINAL: Uncle_Joe
Yeah, I enjoyed IG a lot more than I expected I would have. Its really very light entertainment roughly centered on the Napoleonic period. But its historical accuracy is near nil. I liken it to Imperialism 2 which I still play to this day...a fun strategy game with a rough historical background.
I came to enjoy the tactical battles and even the naval battles when kept to a size of 4 or less on my side....any bigger and I just auto-calc'ed it. Obviously there are plenty of improvements that could be made to make the game better, but even 'out of the box', I enjoyed it quite a bit and spent one too many nights saying 'one more turn!' until way too late...If they ever patch it to include even just the most rudimentary of the suggestions being posted by the majority of the player, it could remain on my HD for quite some time for exactly what it is...a fun diversion in the form of a strategy game with fantastic graphics and flavor.
Thats my $.02 on it.
You nailed it, Uncle Joe. Excellent description of what's fun about IG. Even the comparison to Imperialism II (which I also still play) is apt.
Actually, I'm probably looking forward to COG more than I otherwise might because of my enjoyment of IG. IG is a light, fun, great-looking game. But it has given me an appetite for something more substantial - hence my interest in COG. I view the games as complimentary, not mutually exclusive.
RE: Will this be the game Imperial Glory isn't.
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:52 am
by TheHellPatrol
ORIGINAL: Queeg
You nailed it, Uncle Joe. Excellent description of what's fun about IG. Even the comparison to Imperialism II (which I also still play) is apt.
Actually, I'm probably looking forward to COG more than I otherwise might because of my enjoyment of IG. IG is a light, fun, great-looking game. But it has given me an appetite for something more substantial - hence my interest in COG. I view the games as complimentary, not mutually exclusive.
Bravo, IG is an appetizer for the 7-course meal...COG[:D] IG: very tasty and looks great on the fancy plate but... not very filling[;)]
RE: Will this be the game Imperial Glory isn't.
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:49 am
by ravinhood
So COG "tastes great" and IG is "less filling" is that it?
RE: Will this be the game Imperial Glory isn't.
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:40 pm
by Queeg
ORIGINAL: ravinhood
So COG "tastes great" and IG is "less filling" is that it?
That's fair.
RE: Will this be the game Imperial Glory isn't.
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:08 pm
by Rowly
Wow,
never thought I'd provoke such a response!
Anyhow, I was not slagging IG off and somewhere along the line the purpose of my thread went off tangent. The problem with IG is the lack of any AI in your units. Forgotten cavalry will stand around getting butchered rather than withdrawing from their completed target. This is the advantage of IGYG type games. (IMHO of course)
A game I really enjoyed playing was called Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord (CMBO) This was a first person/third person tactical 3d wargame. It was great fun. Fancy the graphics of IG with the depth of a game like this. With CMBO you got a feeling of control but it had features like fog of war, LOS, terrain effects and so on......
Bring on Combat Mission Beyond Iberia