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RE: WHo uses the tactical system?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:18 am
by ravinhood
I'm in third. Maybe I suck at this game

That's possible. But, I'm glad you stepped in and gave a little more information about the end game. Very difficult level, very good, not many post of play on it after such a newly released title. You must know the mechanics very well or the game is still reletively easy that even on very difficult someone who claims that maybe they suk at this game can maintain even a 3rd position with only 100 points behind. ;)

RE: WHo uses the tactical system?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:09 am
by Reiryc
ORIGINAL: ravinhood
I'm in third. Maybe I suck at this game

That's possible. But, I'm glad you stepped in and gave a little more information about the end game. Very difficult level, very good, not many post of play on it after such a newly released title. You must know the mechanics very well or the game is still reletively easy that even on very difficult someone who claims that maybe they suk at this game can maintain even a 3rd position with only 100 points behind. ;)

I think maybe you should own the game to make a better judgement...

RE: WHo uses the tactical system?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:33 am
by sol_invictus
Remeber also that as Russia he would be expected to have an easier time than say Spain, Sweden, Prussia, Turkey, and Austria.

RE: WHo uses the tactical system?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:34 am
by jchastain
ORIGINAL: Mr. Z

Just out of curiosity, for those who have noticed troublingly outnumbered victories, could you tell us a) what nations you were playing and b) who you were fighting?

(FWIW, France can often win outnumbered, and some nations, like the Ottomans, can likewise often be defeated by a smaller force.)

It would also be interesting to know if anyone has experienced this while playing the Balanced scenario. Thanks.

I mostly play the standard 1805 scenario with all options left at default.

Playing Austria, I routinely beat a french force twice my size (other than the initial fight in Tyrolia where my forces usually don't get there in time to give me a chance). Not every time mind you, but much more often than not.

Playing Prussia I never lost to a Swedish or British force that at times was twice my size (though my morale was pretty strong as I spent some time building up before going to war).

RE: WHo uses the tactical system?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:12 am
by jchastain
Just to give a bit more detail since I'll be away for the next few days, the easiest way to beat the AI is...

form a line early. just pick a spot with some clear terrain. If you can line up behind a river, all the better but really anywhere will do.

On each end of the line, place around 3 cavalry to prevent flanking. The computer likes to charge infantry, but leaves undisrupted cavalry alone. If you put several cavalry pieces just past the end of your lines (leave them in column formation) then your enemy will charge at your line of infantry. Place artillary in the middle of the line with infantry on each side of it. Be sure to get it into line formation as well. Leave space behind your line, but leave no gaps in the middle. Keep a couple of infantry in reserve just in case a unit breaks and flees and make sure they have room to get out. Now, sit back and wait.

Their cavalry will come first and it will hit your line forcing the infantry to make a defensive square. After each charge, just return any unshaken units back to line formation and give them a good volley. 2 or 3 units can generally hit each charger. Artillary should pound anything out in front of it - even units further out. Be sure to aim it at units in formation to disrupt as many as possible and get the maximum kills. As the enemy infantry approach, their cavalry is usually pretty tired and beaten up. They approach your lines in columns. Again, just blast them as they approach. As units begin to break, they run off. Now your cavalry can detach and mop up for the really big kills. Transfer all of your generals to cavalry divisions and begin charging the disrupted enemy units. Keep your cavalry reasonably close together and watch out for undisrupted enemy cavalry so that you can shield yourself from enemy charges - the ZOC is your friend so position yourself to protect a unit as it charges. Move your disrupted units back behind the lines and rest. By now, they are likely in full retreat. Now is the time to send your infantry out to charge as well. Mop up anything you find. It's pretty simply really. And it works most of the time. [;)]

RE: WHo uses the tactical system?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:30 am
by mogami
Hi, I use it but then all my battles so far have been small. (Even when I have a large army the enemy is only a few Divisons)