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ORIGINAL: canuck64

Kornish-we're very much agreed on the AI-which is why I went to the horribly geeky choice of playing myself hotseat for all factions.
Years ago, my best friend and I had a 2 player game of Diplomacy going, until college-then we got 5 others in on it-and things got really complex...we were drafting propositions in officialspeak of the time and so forth. Back stabbing occurred, but the stabbee would inevitably let it be known this had happened.
COG would make for a great 3 or more player game. France, Austria and Britain can be the three leads, the others you can (as you suggested) work on thru the in-game diplomacy.
3 differing motives here would augment the diplomatic model.

FInally, arguably-you're playing the one power I'd have to agree on that really doesn't need to work on diplomacy too much. It seems England is the go-to guy of the minors when they're concerned about motives of their (adjacent)land-locked brethren. Ironically, unless it's a coastal entity-having Britain as a protectorate is often like kissing your sister, unless the minor in question actually has an army per se.
Britain's the spoiler, no doubt. But are you on the continent IN FORCE? That's the hard part.

Everything but my militia was on the continent, and now heading to Corsica.

THAT WORKS¡¡¡ Discover you how?

I'm not sure about longer 23 year highest-glory games, but we've found that for shorter standard-campaign games a good 2-player version is to give the coalition player control of two nations, England and Austria are a good combination.

ORIGINAL: ericbabe

I'm not sure about longer 23 year highest-glory games, but we've found that for shorter standard-campaign games a good 2-player version is to give the coalition player control of two nations, England and Austria are a good combination.

Yeah, I've tried doing this. Personally, I'd rather play the one country and only fight the battles for another.

If this never gets into the game, fine, but I really do think it should be a consideration for a future game. The AI just cant cope well enough, in order to be a proper ally, on the battlefield.

Well in the new game, I got Poland (238,000 troops) and Bavaria (142,000 troops)

LOL Turkey broke Bavaria away from me the turn I got it, and then reasked for my protection !!!!

also go one of the NA provinces, which can be dangerous, but Turkey backed down

a update
I also got Batvira (98,000 troops) and Piemount (80,000 troops) to ask for protection

so that is Poland, Bavira (?) Batvira and Piemount (along with the trouble maker in NA)

over 500,000 troops and 5 Armies

which in my game, I was at war with Prussia and Aus, had a peace deal with England, and had gotten Turkey and Russia to DOW Aus/Prussia

then Spain talked Russia and Sweden to DOW on me, defeated Spain fast and start to move on the others

had just got a deal in with England to become Allies, when they got Turkey and Prussia to DOW me

odd, England Stayed as a Ally, so made friends with Aus (they were still at war with Turkey)

Prussia went down easy (took there two Armies, to fight Sweden

Poland been busy mopping up the garbage crossing the border, lost a province, took it back and took Kiev

the Prussia Armies are headed into Holland, the Dutch have just landed in Sweden (Dutch Fleet is in the Med ?)

the Piemount Army is moving into the old Freed State area, to help repel the Turk Hordes

must say, been a very interesting game so far !

with out the protectorate Armies (and with the new combat system) I think I would of been over ran long ago

(LOL even got a new leader, skills of 0.010, 0.000, 0.000 oh boy)

In my new game using the newest beta patch, I gained protectorates of Poland, Baden, and the Papacy.

I've not paid out a single $1 in subsidies either and my diplomats are busy trying to charm Russia so I can create a favorable alliance.

On this topic-though-I'm curious....

When I examine heavily-subsidized nations, I see TONS of cash in their list of goodies....What happens to this in the event of 1)gaining them as a protectorate, or 2)conquering them?

Truly curious....never thought to ask, but I don't see it in the manual anywhere....anyone know?[&:]