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RE: I don't like being the "bad guys"...
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:22 pm
by HansBolter
Thanks Arjuna.
I am glad no one took offense at my referrence to "pounders" as antiquated medieval terminology. It was meant more as poking fun than an insult.
I actully find many historic, colorful British unit names quite entertaining when compared to the mundane names most American units had in WWII.
RE: I don't like being the "bad guys"...
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:28 pm
by RayWolfe
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
I am glad no one took offense at my referrence to "pounders" as antiquated medieval terminology. It was meant more as poking fun than an insult.
We Brits were put on this earth to be the objects of fun [:'(]
... in fact "medieval" is what we do best and at my age it's ALL I do!
Now if I knew your origins I mght try to turn the tables. [;)]
Cheers
Ray (original Old Git)
RE: I don't like being the "bad guys"...
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:59 pm
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: RayWolfe
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
I am glad no one took offense at my referrence to "pounders" as antiquated medieval terminology. It was meant more as poking fun than an insult.
We Brits were put on this earth to be the objects of fun [:'(]
... in fact "medieval" is what we do best and at my age it's ALL I do!
Now if I knew your origins I mght try to turn the tables. [;)]
Cheers
Ray (original Old Git)
Yank here! However, as can probably be guessed by my monicker, I tend to play German more often than not.
We Yanks have some strange names for our military units ourselves. Like labeling all anti-tank guns as "tank destroyers", whether towed or self propelled.
Some of my favorite colorful British monickers are KOSB (Kings Own Scottish Borderers) and the Ox and Bucks (Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry (who by the way constituted the glider borne coup-demain on Pegasus bridge) One of my all time favorite war movie scenes takes place in Daryl Zannuck's cinemagraphic depiction of Corneilus Ryan's famous book, The Longest Day. The name of the famous British actor of the era who portrays Major John Howard escapes me at the moment, but I absolutely love the scene that occurs just after they debark from the glider and he stands up to exhort his troops to the charge onto the bridge with the line "up the ox and bucks, up the ox and bucks!".
RE: I don't like being the "bad guys"...
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:06 pm
by JudgeDredd
Richard Todd - "Hold until relieved.....Hold until relieved!"
RE: I don't like being the "bad guys"...
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:59 am
by RayWolfe
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
Some of my favorite colorful British monickers are KOSB (Kings Own Scottish Borderers) and the Ox and Bucks (Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry)
Yes, I think we do that rather well. So much more evocative than I/502/101 even though that was a splendid unit. Names like The Buffs, the Black Watch, The Sherwood Foresters, The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders are memorable. My old regiment: The Honourable Artillery Company/Royal Horse Artillery does have a certain elegance and our full dress uniform, even more so!
Cheers
Ray
RE: I don't like being the "bad guys"...
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:57 am
by CriticalMass
Yes, I find it mighty consistent when I here Americans moving there MILLIMETER caliber artillery pieces MILES along the roads. [;)] [:D]
BTW, you should read Bill Bryson's Made in America to see who has the propensity to use antiquated and moribund words from the "English" language. [:'(] [:'(] [:D]
RE: I don't like being the "bad guys"...
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:56 pm
by HansBolter
Yes, I fully realize the British and Americans are two people separated by a common language.
I am also aware of the inconsistencies in terminology in use by the armies/societies of the time. We Ami's are also paragons of consistency when switching back and forth between millimeter and calibre designations for bore diameters. Our field guns were labeled in millimeters (at least until you get up in size to the "eight inch" howitzer) and our machine guns were designated in "caliber".
What I want from a game is consistency in accurately depicting the inconsistencies in use at the time.
RE: I don't like being the "bad guys"...
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:59 pm
by comtrjl
Richard Todd served in 6th Para during the war and was present at some point at Pegasus Bridge. Major Howard, whose role he played in the 'Longest Day' was his C.O.
bob
RE: I don't like being the "bad guys"...
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:12 am
by Arjuna
ORIGINAL: comtrjl
Richard Todd served in 6th Para during the war and was present at some point at Pegasus Bridge. Major Howard, whose role he played in the 'Longest Day' was his C.O.
bob
That's nice. Thanks.
One better though is the film Theirs is the Glory in which members of the Brit 1st Abn Div play themselves doing battle at Arnhem. They filmed it in 1946 in large part to honour their fallen mates.
RE: I don't like being the "bad guys"...
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:09 am
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: Arjuna
ORIGINAL: comtrjl
Richard Todd served in 6th Para during the war and was present at some point at Pegasus Bridge. Major Howard, whose role he played in the 'Longest Day' was his C.O.
bob
That's nice. Thanks.
One better though is the film Theirs is the Glory in which members of the Brit 1st Abn Div play themselves doing battle at Arnhem. They filmed it in 1946 in large part to honour their fallen mates.
Now those are two things I didn't know. Makes Todd's performance in the movie much more meaningful. Hmm...I wonder what the chances are that a British production from 1946 would be available on DVD?
My favorite scene from the Longest Day has to be the French commando attack on the casino at Quistraham (sp?). The overhead footage of the commandos moving through the town, closing on the casino, getting pinned down by German fire and the commander Kieffer making a dash across the broken canal bridge to get tank support was by far the best combat action depicted.
RE: I don't like being the "bad guys"...
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:24 am
by Arjuna
I don't know about a DVD but I have a Video I purchased some time ago. I presume that by now they would have migrated to DVD. It was part of the "After the Battle" series published by Rank Film in 1985. ( Boy that is a while ago. [:)] ).
RE: I don't like being the "bad guys"...
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:56 am
by Fred98
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
Very high. I got it just a few weeks ago [8D]