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RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:07 pm
by Stelteck
ORIGINAL: BrianG
The Valentine tanks seem to get under deployed to units.
Same as in my game versus Sillyflower
The problem of the Valentine is that it is the lighter of the medium tanks. 16 tons only.
There is no reason in game to use it when you still have T-34.
Gameplaywise, it would have been interesting to categorize it as light tanks or cavalry tanks instead of medium tank, to be used to fill all the light tank slots that are in dire need of equipment.
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:44 pm
by chaos45
re-classifying it as a light tank might allow it to actually get used.
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:29 am
by HardLuckYetAgain

Now begins the "hold your buttchecks" tightly together to not get screwed phase for the Germans. Stef I do not envy you at all & wish you the best.
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:47 am
by EwaldvonKleist
Stef, I am wondering, what you aim for with your counterattacks against rifle corps is as loss ratios are 1:1 (beside the thrill of attacking)? Below is an example of such an attack:
Great fight and AAR!
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:55 pm
by chaos45
He is buying time would be my guess. As he is trying to hold his currently well fortified lines as long as possible before the march to Berlin begins.
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:25 pm
by Stelteck
As a tribute to Stephane excellent AAR, some intel leaked from the soviet side at this date.

RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:10 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: Stelteck
As a tribute to Stephane excellent AAR, some intel leaked from the soviet side at this date.
Ok you have all of these shiny new objects show us what you can do with them ;-P. ( P.S. all those Cav Corps require good Armor Leader now and not an Infantry leader, I'm sure you already know but for those that don't)
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:17 pm
by Stelteck
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
Ok you have all of these shiny new objects show us what you can do with them ;-P. ( P.S. all those Cav Corps require good Armor Leader now and not an Infantry leader, I'm sure you already know but for those that don't)
In fact, i'am not sûre as they are still described as non motorized so i'am confused which value is the most important for them between mech and Inf.
Did the leadership value applied squads per squads ? (With infantry squads using Inf and tanks using mech). Or there is a unique value for the entire division/corps ? If it is the later, then cavalry divisions are still non motorized and use Inf.
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:45 pm
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

Now begins the "hold your buttchecks" tightly together to not get screwed phase for the Germans. Stef I do not envy you at all & wish you the best.
Thanks
In 1943, german army is still strong enough to counterattack efficiently but 1944 is hell, 1945 a nightmare
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:50 pm
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist
Stef, I am wondering, what you aim for with your counterattacks against rifle corps is as loss ratios are 1:1 (beside the thrill of attacking)? Below is an example of such an attack:
as said Pelton, morale is king, so I need victories to keep my morale as high as possible
It also has a negative psychological effect on soviet morale and it delays russian advance
and above all it's fun to fight!
Great fight and AAR!
thanks!
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:57 pm
by Twigster
Great fight and AAR!
Completely agree! I am enjoying both this and tyronec & Grognard1812's AAR immensely and learning from both.
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:42 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: Stelteck
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
Ok you have all of these shiny new objects show us what you can do with them ;-P. ( P.S. all those Cav Corps require good Armor Leader now and not an Infantry leader, I'm sure you already know but for those that don't)
In fact, i'am not sûre as they are still described as non motorized so i'am confused which value is the most important for them between mech and Inf.
Did the leadership value applied squads per squads ? (With infantry squads using Inf and tanks using mech). Or there is a unique value for the entire division/corps ? If it is the later, then cavalry divisions are still non motorized and use Inf.
Patch 1.08.07 is where the change happened. Here is a snippet from that patch;
11. For the purposes of leader rolls, Soviet cavalry units on or after 3/43 will be classified as motorized, together with armor, motorized, mechanized and SP gun units. This means they will fight better under leaders with high mech skill, rather than infantry skill, and is related to the introduction of 2/43 Cavalry Corps TOE, that is tank-heavy.
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:06 pm
by Stelteck
Thanks for the info.
It is really a trap. [:D] We do not even have feedback if it is working as intended.
Nevermind i'am better at building army than using them, my model is general George B. McClellan.
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:46 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: Stelteck
my model is general George B. McClellan.
OMG, lord help you then

. My family is from the town that George McClellan surrendered his command. Matter of fact my Great great great grandfather fought with Mosby in Northern Virginia but that is another story entirely.
Good luck Modeling George McClellan

RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:51 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: Stelteck
my model is general George B. McClellan.
OMG, lord help you then

. My family is from the town that George McClellan surrendered his command. Matter of fact my Great great great grandfather fought with Mosby in Northern Virginia but that is another story entirely.
Good luck Modeling George McClellan
If I remember correctly my Civil War history, I believe Robert E Lee said McClellan was the only commander that he was afraid of. So maybe not so bad being McClellan....
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:04 pm
by Crackaces
If I remember correctly my Civil War history, I believe Robert E Lee said McClellan was the only commander that he was afraid of. So maybe not so bad being McClellan....
If I remember my civil war history .. he got finally spanked by US Grant in a war of attrition ... the kind of war the rest of the Northern Generals could not or would not engage
Relating to this game .. when you have a material and manpower edge you simply reduce the denominator at the same or better ratios .. eventually things will go your way
75/50 = 1.5 -> (20K loss each) 55/30 = 1.83333.... (20K loss each) 35/10 3.5
[8D]
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:36 pm
by Stelteck
You know you are a great general when even when you are fired you still got a monument to celebrate the event [:D]
June 1943
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:49 pm
by STEF78
Turn 106, 24th june 1943
We are some turns ahead of the AAR and I have a strong headache: "should I stay or should I go?....". I won't sent the turn back tonight. I will sleep, think about it and reply tomorrow...
But back to june, more and more areas are concerned with russian attacks. Once I cut a head of the hydra, 2 more appear!
Near Sochi, we are able to hold this week. But it won't last.
North of Baku, heavy resistance and counterattack
Some russian pressure west of lake Elton
With clear weather Stelteck is able to rotate enough units to get 3 major assaults on the same unit. It's too much! Of course we immediatly counterattack!
RE: Clash of titans
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:51 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: Crackaces
If I remember correctly my Civil War history, I believe Robert E Lee said McClellan was the only commander that he was afraid of. So maybe not so bad being McClellan....
If I remember my civil war history .. he got finally spanked by US Grant in a war of attrition ... the kind of war the rest of the Northern Generals could not or would not engage
Relating to this game .. when you have a material and manpower edge you simply reduce the denominator at the same or better ratios .. eventually things will go your way
75/50 = 1.5 -> (20K loss each) 55/30 = 1.83333.... (20K loss each) 35/10 3.5
[8D]
The two ways to defeat a foe is to attack their “means” (i.e. resources) or their “will” to fight (i.e. morale). The North won the "means" war and the South lost the "will" side of the equation.
June 1943
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:56 pm
by STEF78
South of Tambov, a single inf divs suffers 4 majors attacks! Even reserve activation isn't enough. russian AFV are burning like paper but is it simply useful?
Fierce battles also around Moscow. The problem is that I cannot be sttrong everywhere and I will loose some very strong units during the next weeks, including LAH en july... headache, headache...
