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RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:48 am
by sprior
July 22nd 1942
Looks like we ound more of JJ's troops:
Ground combat at Nookanbah (66,130)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 539 troops, 0 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 13
Defending force 7935 troops, 71 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 291
Allied adjusted assault: 0
Japanese adjusted defense: 312
Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 1)
Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: disruption(-), supply(-)
Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
2/9th Armoured Regiment
Defending units:
148th Infantry Regiment
5th Amphibious Brigade
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:37 pm
by Cap Mandrake
*************A Squadron 2/9th Armoured Regt., near Nookanbah, July 22, 1942***********
Amid the noise of idling Stuarts, a Sargeant walks along the line of tanks.
Sgt: Right...we push off in 5 minutes...who wants Kool-Aide? <he holds up a container of Prime Minister Curtain brand Koo-Aide>
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:20 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Question: When the adjusted combat strength is 0 vs 312 shouldn't the assault odds be 1 to INFINITY ?
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:29 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Question: When the adjusted combat strength is 0 vs 312 shouldn't the assault odds be 1 to INFINITY ?
They round up to infinity on an asymptotic curve. 1:312 is very close to 1:64 or 1:128. 1:infinity is the next stop.
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:36 pm
by witpqs
When they report "1 to 99" they mean 1 to the 99th power of infinity.
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:38 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Question: When the adjusted combat strength is 0 vs 312 shouldn't the assault odds be 1 to INFINITY ?
They round up to infinity on an asymptotic curve. 1:312 is very close to 1:64 or 1:128. 1:infinity is the next stop.
What exactly do you have to roll to get "D ELIM" on a 1 to Infinity attack?
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:43 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: witpqs
When they report "1 to 99" they mean 1 to the 99th power of infinity.
Wouldn't that be 1^
US Budget Deficit?
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:45 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Question: When the adjusted combat strength is 0 vs 312 shouldn't the assault odds be 1 to INFINITY ?
They round up to infinity on an asymptotic curve. 1:312 is very close to 1:64 or 1:128. 1:infinity is the next stop.
What exactly do you have to roll to get "D ELIM" on a 1 to Infinity attack?
First off, all "die" in this die roll need to stand on end, not on a registered 'face'. Then an ethereal hand comes down from the clouds in a booming voice, exclaiming "Hmmm...craps again."
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:45 pm
by Grollub
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Question: When the adjusted combat strength is 0 vs 312 shouldn't the assault odds be 1 to INFINITY ?
They round up to infinity on an asymptotic curve. 1:312 is very close to 1:64 or 1:128. 1:infinity is the next stop.
What exactly do you have to roll to get "D ELIM" on a 1 to Infinity attack?
Exactly a "1" on a die with infinite number of sides.
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:53 pm
by Cap Mandrake
OK, I found it in the rule book, (54) XII/A/2
"The worst combat odds you can get are 1 to infinity. This is seriously shitty and you would be well advised not to try unless you have some crappy little understrength reserve unit that you don't need and are trying to use the "reccon by suicide attack" exploit. In that case, the AI will virtually roll two Rhombicosidodecahedra. If you are lucky enough to get double 64, ("hyper-boxcars") the defending units will be eliminated. I know this sounds really good but quite likely your opponent will throw a tantrum at the "unhistorical" result and will pout for weeks and might even quit."
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:03 pm
by Cap Mandrake
*************Aboard the AK Derrymore, South Indian Ocean, 17;20, July 22, 1942**************
<This ship is making 5 kts and still burning aft. Black smoke trails behind them, reaching 10,000 feet into the air. Everyone on the bridge scans the skies for the expected attack>
XO: Nothing sir!
Captain: Bloody strange. They MUST be near. I wonder if it is a Shinto holiday or something. Somebody find out.....
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:10 pm
by Grollub
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
OK, I found it in the rule book, (54) XII/A/2
"The worst combat odds you can get are 1 to infinity. This is seriously shitty and you would be well advised not to try unless you have some crappy little understrength reserve unit that you don't need and are trying to use the "reccon by suicide attack" exploit. In that case, the AI will virtually roll two Rhombicosidodecahedra. If you are lucky enough to get double 64, ("hyper-boxcars") the defending units will be eliminated. I know this sounds really good but quite likely your opponent will throw a tantrum at the "unhistorical" result and will pout for weeks and might even quit."
1/ In what dimension was that rule book written? In the same dimension where you have read the manual? [;)][:'(]
2/ I believe that if "hyper-boxcars" is rolled all Mae Wests are immediately transformed into the real Mae West as well.

[:D]
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:27 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Grollub
2/ I believe that if "hyper-boxcars" is rolled all Mae Wests are immediately transformed into the real Mae West as well.

[:D]
Like this you mean? [;)] She looks like Tony Curtis from
Some LIke it Hot. [:D]

RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:31 pm
by sprior
Like this you mean?
No, like this:

RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:32 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: sprior
Like this you mean?
No, like this:
Come on Hyper-boxcars! We need a D ELIM!
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:37 pm
by Wirraway_Ace
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: sprior
Like this you mean?
No, like this:
Come on Hyper-boxcars! We need a D ELIM!
Gravity seems to be adding to the effect. A type of FOW?
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:48 pm
by sprior
Yes, but in this case I would suggest a weak attractive force has created a strong attractive force.
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:54 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Wirraway_Ace
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: sprior
No, like this:
Come on Hyper-boxcars! We need a D ELIM!
Gravity seems to be adding to the effect. A type of FOW?
Well, she was about 33....and, if I recall that is some kind of flimsy nightgown......and you must remember this was before Dow Corning defied gravity. Bloody impressive if you ask me.
My question is how many rolls of cheese did the photographer have to unwrap for that shot?
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:57 pm
by CaptDave
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Wirraway_Ace
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Come on Hyper-boxcars! We need a D ELIM!
Gravity seems to be adding to the effect. A type of FOW?
Well, she was about 33....and, if I recall that is some kind of flimsy nightgown......and you must remember this was before Dow Corning defied gravity. Bloody impressive if you ask me.
My question is how many rolls of cheese did the photographer have to unwrap for that shot?
Oh, the photographer didn't need any rolls of cheese -- Jack Lemmon was cheesy enough in that scene to fill all needs!
RE: Hearts and Minds
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:10 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: sprior
Yes, but in this case I would suggest a weak attractive force has created a strong attractive force.
Simon, are you the weak attractive force that is attracted to the strong attractive force? [:'(]