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RE: When?
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:25 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: Neilster
Actually, Australian English is a combination of many influences. A strong one was the 18th Century British military vocabulary, because the various colonies that eventually became Australia were originally penal settlements. Another was the dialects of the convicts, many of whom were Irish or who were from England's big cities where a fast paced, jargon-filled form of English often known as Flash was commonly spoken in the criminal underworld.
By the 1820s (less than 50 years after first settlement) visitors noted that Australians spoke with a distinctive accent. The gold rush of the 1850s bought settlers from all over the world, many of them from North America. Many words from American English (especially mining terms which often owed their origins to Spanish) entered the vocabulary. I've also noticed there are a fair number of German words lurking around almost unnoticed. Germans were the 4th most common immigrants to Australia.
Many words and expressions that were common 50 years ago are now seen as stereotypical and have fallen out of favour (although I often still use them). Talking to old blokes is often a slightly strange experience as a result. My Dad's Dad was born in 1898 and he spoke with a 19th Century Australian accent and vocabulary which is quite different to today's. For example, to say "Go and get the cow (beast) from down by the far creek", he would say "Goin' git bist frum diwn be fur crick". Speaking of which, I recently saw a documentary about Colonia Nueva Australia (New Australia), where 238 adults and children emigrated to Paraguay in 1893 in an attempt to build a utopian Socialist farming community. Not surprisingly it didn't work and many went home but some stayed and their descendants still preserve some Australian stuff like recipes and certain words. One of the old blokes was the son of one of the original settlers and he spoke with a 19th Century Australian accent in a very similar fashion to my grandfather. It was kind of weird to hear it in 2007.
Personally, I speak a mix of "Cultivated Australian English" (spoken by less than 10% of the population now, with many similarities to British Received Pronunciation) and "General Australian English" (spoken by 80% of people here). I'll also speak "Broad Australian English" (Steve Irwin/Paul Hogan style, also known as Ocker or Strine) if I perceive that the listener speaks that way.
Cheers, Neilster
Thanks.
I find it interesting how quickly people will change how they speak once in a new environment (myself in particular). And revert immediately to a known dialect when they encounter someone who speaks it. In Hawaii it is most obvious when a local switches from normal, 'television' English to the local Pidgin dialect. In one of our recent shows a repeated tag line for several scenes was "we go stay".
RE: When?
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:11 pm
by composer99
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
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My quartet has an unpaid 20 minute gig for a school fund raiser next weekend. This will be our first time doing more than 3 songs in a gig. By using a stop watch we discovered that most of our songs runs for less the 90 seconds, so it looks like we will be doing 11 to 12 songs - yikes!
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Is that including talking to fill in time?
RE: When?
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:46 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: composer99
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
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My quartet has an unpaid 20 minute gig for a school fund raiser next weekend. This will be our first time doing more than 3 songs in a gig. By using a stop watch we discovered that most of our songs runs for less the 90 seconds, so it looks like we will be doing 11 to 12 songs - yikes!
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Is that including talking to fill in time?
Well, you need a little palaver, but I am not a fan of taking 2-3 minutes to tell a joke. That is a common ploy for quartets to fill out their program. If you are doing 40+ minutes, then more talking is required, or some skit, or something. Straight singing for 40 minuntes wears an audience down (and the performers). To that end, singing ballads (slow songs) is kept to a minimum or else the audience falls asleep. Up tunes to ballads is usually 2:1 or 3:1. We also worry about changing the key. Singing 4 songs in a row in b-flat gets boring too. Starting with a rouser (Zip-a-dee-doo-dah in our case) is crucial too. Actually, planning a program/performance takes some time with a lot of things involved.
RE: When?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:20 am
by Neilster
Good evening Ladies and Germs. I just flew in from Maui...and boy are my arms tired!...(sound of crickets chirping)...Woah! Tough crowd. [:'(]
Cheers, Neilster
RE: When?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:30 am
by Dave3L
Take my wife...please!
RE: When?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:31 am
by Dave3L
Horaf came up to me last week and said, "Your money or your life. Well?"
I said, "I'm thinking, I'm thinking!"
Thanks, I'll be here all week. Try the veal!
RE: When?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:54 am
by Mziln
Horaf came up to me last week and said, "Your money or your life!"
I said, "Take my life I'm saving my money for my old age!"
RE: When?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:09 am
by cockney
wifey said that she felt like curtains, told her to pull herself together.
RE: When?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:16 pm
by Mziln
ORIGINAL: cockney
wifey said that she felt like curtains, told her to pull herself together.
Tell her to hang in there [:D]
RE: When?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:47 pm
by jinks
Nice to see the game is geting somewhere [:)]
Keep up the good work
RE: When?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:06 pm
by Cheesehead
I saw this one on a different wargame forum and it still cracks me up:
If a man speaks in the woods and a woman isn't there to hear him, is he still wrong?
RE: When?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:14 am
by Widell
ORIGINAL: Cheesehead
I saw this one on a different wargame forum and it still cracks me up:
If a man speaks in the woods and a woman isn't there to hear him, is he still wrong?
[:D]
They have ways of finding out what the man in the woods said....... and it was wrong.....
RE: When?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:28 am
by cockney
Q: why is a woman always right?
A: BECAUSE!!!!
RE: When?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:56 pm
by Dave3L
ORIGINAL: cockney
Q: why is a woman always right?
A: BECAUSE!!!!
A: Because you're a man, you idiot!
RE: When?
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:16 pm
by doctormm
ORIGINAL: Dave3L
ORIGINAL: cockney
Q: why is a woman always right?
A: BECAUSE!!!!
A: Because you're a man, you idiot!
I can't believe the best one was missed -
Why do husbands die before their wives?
Because they want to!
RE: When?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:14 am
by trojan58
I married 'Mrs Right'
I didn't realise her first name was 'always'
RE: When?
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:17 pm
by geozero
Any new update on release of game?
RE: When?
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:53 pm
by wworld7
ORIGINAL: geozero
Any new update on release of game?
The last report has Origins 2008 as the target.
RE: When?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:29 am
by JavaJoe
I tell ya...I crossed my PC with my wife....
This way I have a computer that'll never go down..
Is this thing on?
I sent my wife to get a face lift, once the Dr saw what was underneath he put it back down again....
RE: When?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:58 am
by macgregor
ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish
ORIGINAL: geozero
Any new update on release of game?
The last report has Origins 2008 as the target.
I guess then that would be Thursday, June 26, 2008 -Sunday, June 29, 2008 at the Greater Columbus Convention Center 400 North High Street Columbus, Ohio 43215. That's like 7 months. Could it really be that close? I'm going to have to start to pay more attention.