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RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:22 pm
by Canoerebel
European hornets aren't native either. They were introduced. I've written about 'em before, so have a bit of familiarity.

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:22 pm
by RangerJoe
. . . That's why in court we take an oath to tell "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth."

And that is why a judge told me that "I don't like the law so I don't follow it." He then said "I don't like the case law so I don't go by it."

This was in reference to the person representing the other side committing a criminal act in court, every hearing for three hearings in a row.

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:24 pm
by Canoerebel
[:D]

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:24 pm
by MakeeLearn
I thought the Asian hornets were already in the US.

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:25 pm
by Canoerebel
I don't think they've been confirmed in the U.S. yet.

Wait...why are we talking about this?

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:26 pm
by MakeeLearn
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I don't think they've been confirmed in the U.S. yet.

Wait...why are we talking about this?

Asian hornets that can ‘kill with a single sting’ to invade virus-stricken US

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:27 pm
by MakeeLearn
It is a Post-Corona world.

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:28 pm
by obvert
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Smoking weed and coronavirus: Even occasional use raises risk of COVID-19 complications
If you're smoking weed to ease your stress during the coronavirus pandemic, experts say it's time to think twice.

Smoking marijuana, even occasionally, can increase your risk for more severe complications from Covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.

"What happens to your airways when you smoke cannabis is that it causes some degree of inflammation, very similar to bronchitis, very similar to the type of inflammation that cigarette smoking can cause," said pulmonologist Dr. Albert Rizzo, chief medical officer for the American Lung Association. "Now you have some airway inflammation and you get an infection on top of it. So, yes, your chance of getting more complications is there."
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"Because it attacks the lungs, the coronavirus that causes Covid-19 could be an especially serious threat to those who smoke tobacco or marijuana or who vape," the NIH said in its announcement.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... r-BB12qSZf

Maybe this is why some young people have problems with CoViD-19.

That and vaping I'd guess are factors. Probably often compounded by obesity.

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:32 pm
by obvert
ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I don't think they've been confirmed in the U.S. yet.

Wait...why are we talking about this?

Asian hornets that can ‘kill with a single sting’ to invade virus-stricken US

It's mock hysteria.

Remember not to get in the pickup to go to work. Much safer to walk.

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:32 pm
by RangerJoe
China Reclassifies Dogs from Livestock to Pets in Response to Coronavirus
April 9, 2020
China’s agriculture ministry has reclassified dogs, which it previously deemed livestock, as pets in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

“As far as dogs are concerned, along with the progress of human civilization and the public concern and love for animal protection, dogs have been ‘specialized’ to become companion animals, and internationally are not considered to be livestock, and they will not be regulated as livestock in China,” the Ministry of Agriculture said in guidelines published on Wednesday that are now open to public comment.

The new coronavirus is thought to have originated in bats that then infected wild animals that were sold in the so-called wet markets of Wuhan, where the outbreak began.

In February, as the virus was beginning to spread and before it reached global pandemic status the next month, China temporarily banned the farming and consumption of “terrestrial wildlife of important ecological, scientific and social value,” and plans to sign the ban into permanent law later this year. But the wildlife trade is widespread in the country, and previous efforts to curtail the market have had little effect.

The guidelines list 18 traditional livestock species, including cattle, pigs, poultry, and camels, as well as 13 “special” species that will also be allowed to be sold, including reindeer, alpaca, pheasants, ostriches, and foxes.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/cor ... erm=second

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:34 pm
by MakeeLearn
Six Hopes for a Post-Corona World
From business with beauty to love without control

Apr 05, 2020

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... rona-world


1. A collective narrative with many different stories
2. Business with beauty
3. A future of work without divides
4. Joy with planetary boundaries
5. Density with stillness
6. Love without control

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:34 pm
by RangerJoe
Japan to Pay Companies to Move Production Out of China
April 9, 2020
Japan will devote more than $2.2 billion of its coronavirus economic stimulus package to incentivize its manufacturers to move their production out of China as relations fray between the neighboring countries in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic.

The record stimulus plan provides $2 billion for manufacturers to transfer production to Japan and over $216 million to help companies move production to other countries. Imports from China, Japan’s biggest trading partner, were down by nearly 50 percent in February as facilities in China closed while the coronavirus ripped through the country.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/jap ... term=third

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:36 pm
by MakeeLearn
The Coronavirus Pandemic Will Forever Alter the World Order
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-corona ... 1585953005



Post-corona world order: What was, is not what will be
https://www.jpost.com/opinion/post-coro ... -be-622967



After The Coronavirus Passes, Your World Will Not Go Back To Normal
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ry ... -to-normal





RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:37 pm
by obvert
A new map by the NY Times. Again it's interactive, so the rollovers show actual rates of increase and numbers. Looks like the equatorial regions are getting it quicker now. At least a couple of countries in Africa, India, Bangladesh and Peru. Russia also now having a quicker growth. How much of this is testing? It'll be good to cross-reference that. As well as checking nearby countries in Africa and South America, as well as SE Asia.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... yline_menu

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RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:38 pm
by MakeeLearn
I feel the same as I always have. Just inconvenienced.



UNLESS


Can I get a PTSD Check?![:)]

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:20 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

Coronavirus: How to understand the death toll
1 April 2020


https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51979654


"That does not mean there will be no extra deaths - but, Sir David says, there will be "a substantial overlap".

"Many people who die of Covid [the disease caused by coronavirus] would have died anyway within a short period," he says.

Knowing exactly how many is impossible to tell at this stage.

Prof Neil Ferguson, the lead modeller at Imperial College London, has suggested it could be up to two-thirds.

But while deaths without the virus would be spread over the course of a year, those with the virus could come quickly and overwhelm the health service."


This is undeniably true but most probably did not WANT to die yet.

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:21 pm
by obvert
Another one I haven't seen, again with numbers by county on rollover. This is a per capita map of the US. Interesting that there are some real hotspots outside of major metropolitan areas.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... cases.html


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RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:26 pm
by obvert
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

Coronavirus: How to understand the death toll
1 April 2020


https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51979654


"That does not mean there will be no extra deaths - but, Sir David says, there will be "a substantial overlap".

"Many people who die of Covid [the disease caused by coronavirus] would have died anyway within a short period," he says.

Knowing exactly how many is impossible to tell at this stage.

Prof Neil Ferguson, the lead modeller at Imperial College London, has suggested it could be up to two-thirds.

But while deaths without the virus would be spread over the course of a year, those with the virus could come quickly and overwhelm the health service."


This is undeniably true but most probably did not WANT to die yet.

There are also people, like my aunt Donna, aged 91, who should have died years ago, but haven't. She smoked for 40+ years, had some other health issues, is overweight, and her main complaint about self-isolating was not being able to go out for ice cream every night near her condo in Florida. Yet she's sharp as a tack, still conducts a chamber music group (pre-isolation anyway) and always has a sharp retort ready.

So yes, she might die within a short period, and yet that could have been said for the last decade.

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:28 pm
by Cap Mandrake
The Japanese are fronting $2B to induce Japanese firms to leave China

The Taiwanese are seriously angry with the WHO for what they perceive to be pro-Beijing bias (and they are right)

A substantial part of the US Congress is seriously angry

The US public is busy right now but....

Despite the crackdown, there is some serious social media agitation in the PRC


When the virus quiets down and becomes an established permanent reality there are going to be some turbulent times ahead

RE: OT: Corona virus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:36 pm
by Canoerebel
It's not surprising to find per capita hot-spots outside metropolitan areas. In rural areas, a case or 10 or 20 takes on out-sized meaning. Dougherty County (Albany), Georgia, is an example. Two big funerals in late February, as discussed here yesterday. Poof, large per capita number.