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https://rg.ru/2020/06/18/pancir-sm-s-no ... arada.html
https://tass.com/defense/1169407

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Pantsir SM with a new missile configuration of an unidentified short range SAM apparently for UAV's.
Down to 10 normal missiles but an additional 8 mini SAM,'s.
Too few details for my inevitable DB3K request but interesting.
K

ORIGINAL: Filitch

ORIGINAL: kevinkins

The troubled pantsir s1 in the news again. Going to degrade its capabilities in a test to see if a drone can take it out. With normal settings it's effective in CMO.

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articl ... 15394.html

It's a rather one-sided article. There are 54 downed Turkay-made UAVs vs 6 or 9 destroyed Pantsirs. One Pantsir costs about $14 millons, and Bayraktar TB2 costs about $5 millions. As for me - Pantsirs won. This is only arithmetic. We will not remember about necessary of layered AD systems, right tactic, quality of personnel training and so on.

Nice surprise idea for you Iranian scenario: A 3rd of Khordad on a ship!
It was a test fire but interestingly, one missile looks to be EO/IR guided and was launched!
Will see more of in the future I think..
https://www.defenseworld.net/news/27255/Iran_Test_fires_Naval_Khordad_Air_Defense_System

It's a rather one-sided article. There are 54 downed Turkay-made UAVs vs 6 or 9 destroyed Pantsirs. One Pantsir costs about $14 millons, and Bayraktar TB2 costs about $5 millions. As for me - Pantsirs won. This is only arithmetic. We will not remember about necessary of layered AD systems, right tactic, quality of personnel training and so on.

That's one way to look at it. Goodness knows what is happening in North Africa, but there are a couple of other factors. Accepting those kill numbers, that’s an exchange ratio of 2.14 in favor of the Pantsir in terms of money. But that does not include the dollar value of crew losses in human terms plus their valuable "training". An UAV is unmanned and designed to accept losses. It also does not factor in the loss of what the destroyed system was covering. Additionally, the Pantsir is on defense not offense. It is designed for area and self-defense. A 2.14 ratio should be a lot better on the defensive. Maybe those Panstirs were operated by ill trained crews. Maybe it's not the right system to the export to some countries. Given those numbers, the system in the hands of non-Russian crews can shoot down 6 UAVs before losing its life at a cost of 18 million.

Kevin

For any Cold War aficionados here's a Soviet propaganda film on EXCERCISE OKEAN 70, incorrectly labelled as Operation Ocean by Periscope Films. It is narrated in Russian but with an English voice over courtesy of the Central Intelligence Agency:

OPERATION OKEAN

And here's an article on the same exercise by Norman Polmar over at the Naval Historical Foundation:

Analyizing Exercise Okean

-C

Well there you go ... you can always throw money at a problem:

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/20 ... rd%20Brief

Essay on anti-ship missiles and strategy:

https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/how-u ... -missiles/

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/south-korea-to-develop-supersonic-asm-for-future-kf-x-fighter-aircraft

some basic informations of south korea's supersonic ASM

Australia's 2020 Defence Strategic Update and 2020 Force Structure Plan:

https://www.defence.gov.au/StrategicUpdate-2020/

More on air defence and training vs drones and cruise missiles:

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articl ... rd%20Brief

And on the other side of the equation:

https://www.flightglobal.com/military-u ... 08.article

Not sure what to make of this novel, but some may want to look into it:

https://www.armytimes.com/2020/07/08/tw ... rd%20Brief

Wonder how bellicose this will be?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... escalating

USS Bonhomme Richard on fire. I hope ship and crew will be ok.

USS Bonhomme Richard on fire. I hope ship and crew will be ok.

As for the crew - 17 in hospital but all in stable condition.

Rear Adm Philip Sobeck:
-Cleared compartments and have just found fire location/source
-Lower cargo hold where the fire started Cooling hull with the tugs while interior fight goes on
-Ship's crew involved in firefighting efforts
-Class "A" fire: debris, etc. are fueling fire "Ash heap" fire, "nothing toxic" inside fueling fire
-Explosion was from "overpressurization" of a compartment
-1 millon gallons of fuel onboard, below area of heat source and not affected
-No ordnance onboard All crew accounted for "She will sail again"

-"ship will sail again"

The Japanese Ministry of Defense has published its annual white paper: Defense of Japan 2020.

https://www.mod.go.jp/e/publ/w_paper/index.html

https://news.trust.org/item/20200715122556-a24j0

Ships on fire now in Iran.

Very interesting Russian Wikipedia entry on "Uspekh" targeting complex (1966 on), found casually when looking for Tu-95RTs Bear-D units and bases (You can use Google Translate). With details of operational procedures (Tu-95RTs operating in pairs, perhaps for triangulation) and great peacetime loses. Also down on the page links to other Soviet/Russian targeting and EW systems: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0 ... 1%85%C2%BB

The RAF is to trial the use of unmanned aircraft from the decks of the RN’s QE-class aircraft carriers.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/raf-to-trial-unmanned-aircraft-from-royal-navy-carriers

Nice article on the debate re: US Army long range missiles taking on SAM sites.

https://breakingdefense.com/2020/07/arm ... t-compete/

Team Tempest have added a new interactive 3D model of the Tempest to the RAF website:

https://www.raf.mod.uk/what-we-do/team-tempest/tempest/


There is also a 3D model of LANCA on the site:

https://www.raf.mod.uk/what-we-do/team-tempest/lanca/

Might be an important strategic step years from now.

https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org ... n-colorado

Hi all,

Do you have any plan to add UAV Aksungur for DB3K

Thanks in advance

https://www.tusas.com/uploads/2020/01/a ... ehicle.PDF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqsDiuYASOI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGJPqMieoX0