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RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:07 pm
by SGHunt
ORIGINAL: PyleDriver

Artillery is considered 82mm morters and higher in this game.

Damn, I wish I had seen your post before I chipped in!

But, surely 76mm field guns count as artillery?

RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:11 pm
by PyleDriver
(DAR) Well GD with 2 divisions sweep away the fleeing units from Tulu. Now what? The crossing near Ryazan is full of swamps after the crossing...Hum...So where do I send this power...

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RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:33 pm
by Flaviusx
Could try to make a pocket around Kaluga. Have Hoth push northwards and meet up with Model (who I assume is turning south along the Len-Moscow rail line after grabbing Kalinin.)


RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:56 pm
by ComradeP
The crossing near Ryazan is full of swamps after the crossing...Hum...So where do I send this power...

As you can see on the map, the only direction you could advance in from your current position that wouldn't involve crawling through forests and swamps would be East, preferably a double pincer/envelopment centered on the Tambov area. Any other decision would basically waste the tactical/operational advantages of any Panzer division you commit.

The units in pink could swing to the East and the cyan units could keep the pressure on the Southern flank of Moscow

RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:56 pm
by SGHunt
Create a mini-pocket based on those three rail crossings east of Kaluga - push North with the 4 panzer /motorized divisions by the existing bridgehead, bypassing Kaluga, and simultaneously push Hoth over the Oka through the hex occupied by the para brigade and the routed unit, aiming North then West to link up at the small town and rail junction just North of the Nara.      This would avoid the swamps and still provide a good jumping off point to cut back North East to get ebhind Moscow.

The infantry by Tula moves over to provide the flank cover for Hoth.

RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:34 pm
by Zorch
It's September 5 - summer is almost over! Time for one more big pocket before the rains come.

RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:04 am
by Beetle
1st time poster here....

PD- The game is looking good! Keep up the hard work!

RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:57 am
by Berkut
Use your allies to hold the flanks while you take important objectives with the Germans. That always works out well.

RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:36 am
by PyleDriver
Lol...Guys I know where I'm going, I'm just buttering the bread for you...But do you know where?...My wife calls me the drama king, and I will make this AAR a joy....So when I ask questions in DAR's, I just want your minds to think...

RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:44 am
by Loammi
Berkut, i thing Paulus would have a word or two to say about that............

RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:45 am
by SGHunt
Jon

I am sure we all know you aren't looking for our advice - but it won't stop us from offering it! [:)]

What I love is that the three bits of advice were all so different, and that is what this game will offer us all - incredible flexibility within 'realistic' parameters of what can be done with the assets and logistics.    It's also fun to see how close we are to guessing OKH's intentions. 

And of course we want to be playing it ourselves....!

Stuart 

RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:44 am
by PyleDriver
(AAR) Model is powering to clamp Kalinin, Armin pulled his corps to provide a strong left flank...

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RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:28 am
by PyleDriver
(AAR) Hube's XXIV PzC crushed the defence accross the Oka, and Balck rushed his corps across to form the bridgehead. There a rested corps and bitting at the bit...2nd PzA pulled to form Hoths right...Told you huh. Oh that was a month ago (4 turns)...lol...Oh and 6th army is about to be fread up. Then Kleist will sprng agian...

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RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:36 am
by Apollo11
Hi all,

Nice Jon! [:)]

BTW, I think that it would be good time for Soviets to start evacuating Moscow... [:D]


Leo "Apollo11"

RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:02 am
by PyleDriver
Leo you know whats bad, I dream about this game, and get up and rush to the computer. I think I went over the edge. My wife thinks I have...lol...Another note, I am pressing them hard, and I tip my my hat to you Leo, because he knows how hard it is to keep the attacks going forward. Guess its dream power...lol...

RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:05 am
by jaw
ORIGINAL: PyleDriver

Not sure when Art divisions come in effect, thats a Q&A for Jim or Trey... You guys have mentioned AFV and Inf losses, the Art losses are hitting the Soviets hard. So how do they form these units when they can't keep there front lines units supplied with them?

Artillery divisions become available in October, 1942.

RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:12 pm
by ComradeP
OK, there seem to be more clear terrain hexes between your current position and Moscow than I initially thought, although the path is still narrow.

That stack holding the rail bridge next to your spearhead does seem like a tough nut to crack.

RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 3:30 pm
by jaw
ORIGINAL: von Jaeger

ORIGINAL: PyleDriver

Artillery is considered 82mm morters and higher in this game.

Damn, I wish I had seen your post before I chipped in!

But, surely 76mm field guns count as artillery?

Actually the Loss Summary just list casualties as men, guns, AFVs so guns could include anything from the 600mm Karl to a machine gun. I've never bothered to compare this summary to the actual losses to see what's included in each category but the detail loss screen shows every combat element lost that turn and to date. Maybe someone could prevail on Jon to give us a couple screen shots of the detailed losses?


RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 3:53 pm
by PyleDriver
Well heres the loss screen for turn 11. I scrooled it down to show Soviet artillery losses. The big guns are getting hit hard...The armor losses really concern me at this point...

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RE: OKH Plan 1942 - Alpha AAR

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 4:13 pm
by zbig
Please provide a screen shot of the entire front