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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:44 am
by Bif1961
I thought on autovictory. WWII is full of examples wwhere countries have changed sides once the tide of war went against them, italy, Romania, Finland, Bulgaria and romania come to mind and also T. In this game Thailand withdrawls troops by early August, 1944. I believe there should also be this possibility with some other countries like India and Burma which had large independance movements. There should be a scale that if there are 10,000 possible victory points between india cities and units that once 5,000 has been hit, that the computer rolls each turn after for a possibility of it changing sides. It would go up by +10 for each additional 1,000 points lost. This should also be used for DEI. DEI surrendered long before every individual hex was occupied. If a nation surrenders then all hexes automatically goes to the victor unless a former allie still has units, ground, air or naval in that hex. Once that hex has been abandoned by that former allie it would automatically convert to the victor's side. This would be a more historical game and add some realism about politically motivated choices in an effort to support and keep allies in the game for fear they might surrender. Not sure if the game model can support the variables here but it would make for an interesting game.

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:43 pm
by BBfanboy
I like your ideas Bif 1961. The game has no mechanism to flip entire countries but it does do that for unoccupied bases that have enemy presence close by.

I suppose it is possible to program the surrender of countries but, as I understand it, Matrix has stopped further development of the game and all new changes appear to be by the game's fans who have the skills to make them happen, with input from a couple of Matrix support staff.

I think your idea is along the lines of what the game's designers were trying to achieve when they set up the VP system - to keep the Allied player from totally retreating in 1942 from Japanese advances while waiting for force buildup in 1943. Unfortunately there are some game balance issues wherein the Japanese player can achieve far more in the first seven months of play than they did historically, and it would guarantee auto-victory if entire countries flipped. In your example of India, several AARs have shown the IJA taking almost all of India but the commitment there leaves the Allies to hit them in other areas.

As currently configured, if the Japanese player goes for auto-victory he must overextend the defensible perimeter and expose his LOC to counterattack. This makes for an interesting game, which is the goal, rather than total historic realism.

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:59 pm
by Sangeli
ORIGINAL: Mundy
I ran a sweep against Port Moresby from Cairns with Beaufighters. Not so good, as I lost three for no gain. I think experience played a big part, as they weren't very good. Numbers are back up. The Beaufighter and Oz P-40 pools are rather high right now, since there are only a handful of Australian fighter squadrons on the continent. I should look over some of the Wirraway squadrons to see if they can convert.
The Beaufighter should not be used for sweeping. They are pretty much outmatched by any Japanese fighter. They are much more useful as bomber escort where they will prevent intercepting Japanese fighters from concentrating exclusively on your bombers. The P-38 is a far more effective sweeping fighter and is probably the only other fighter that can reach Port Moresby from OZ for quite some time.

As for the P-40 I think it's actually a pretty decent plane when you can get it into combat but at this point of the war that is difficult due to range constraints and lack of aggressive Japanese LBA attacks. But you get a lot of them and CAP missions generate good pilot experience even without combat.
ORIGINAL: Mundy
I've been asleep watching Pearl, as I've ran that base completely out of fuel. Never had that happen before. Fuel usually seems infinite there. I have one tanker group filling up in the states. I have to wait until my big Suva bound cargo fleet is out before I can get the rest of the tankers out. No big deal. Pearl doesn't see a whole lot of ship traffic, so I can be a bit leisurely about it.
As you say its not going to be decisive but the fact this happened means that you are completely missing one of the important goals of the Allies in 1942 which is simply building up all that supply and fuel in forward bases.
ORIGINAL: Mundy
Not a good move, as it cost me 800 AVs. I thought it may have been a weak vanguard, but guessed wrong. Should have bombarded to gauge the situation. A black eye should learn me...
Terrain, terrain, terrain. The Chinese are woefully bad in offensive attacks in terrain.
ORIGINAL: Mundy
I sent CF a note about the autovictory probability. He intended to keep the game going which is good. I've had so many aborted games where I had to endure 1942 and never played with all the fun toys that come the next year. The game is racing along for me right now. We fit in two a day on weekdays and 3 or 4 on the weekends. Even that's at a casual pace, as we both have lives. Anyway, I won't be doing anything rash in the meantime to desperately stave off defeat. I'll probably run a few Halsey-style raids on his outlying bases to see how well he's guarding the East. Any major event, I'll wait the month and a half for the Lexingtons to finish their upgrade. Their AA should top an Atlanta by the time they're done.
If you do raid be sure to get in and get out as quickly as possible. Don't feel guilty about wasting fuel and gathering ship damage by moving at full speed even if you don't think it is absolutely necessary. And of course always keep a replenishment fleet nearby in case fuel does get low. A surprise carrier raid is only a surprise for about one turn. Just recently I had a game where the USN carriers surprised the IJN in the Coral Sea by sinking a transport fleet only to end an in a complete Allied disaster (3 USN CVs sunk nary a IJN ship damaged) when the USN stayed an extra day for an ill-advised port strike on Port Moresby. If you want to have those fun toys in 1943 don't waste the valuable toys in 1942.

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:43 pm
by Mundy
ORIGINAL: Sangeli
The Beaufighter should not be used for sweeping. They are pretty much outmatched by any Japanese fighter. They are much more useful as bomber escort where they will prevent intercepting Japanese fighters from concentrating exclusively on your bombers. The P-38 is a far more effective sweeping fighter and is probably the only other fighter that can reach Port Moresby from OZ for quite some time

I know better to use them as a "real" fighter. Hitting ships at 100 feet is their real role. I thought they'd have good odds vs Nick, being a similar airplane. Against them, I can totally put this on the pilot experience, which averaged just under 50.
ORIGINAL: Sangeli
As you say its not going to be decisive but the fact this happened means that you are completely missing one of the important goals of the Allies in 1942 which is simply building up all that supply and fuel in forward bases.

I don't know if I'd rate Pearl as "forward". My other bases are pretty well stocked. Suva is over 200k, with more on the way and 300k+ for fuel. Pago Pago, I believe, is a little over 50k in supply, but has a minimalist occupying force right now. New Zealand is improving. I've even gotten rid of most of the red exclamation points in India right now. However, I've emptied Abadan of supply right now, and will have to let them recharge for a month, at least. Another convoy from Cape Town, I guess. Run fuel in the meantime. I'm casually keeping the Alaska Theatre up right now. More attention has been going to those little dinky isolated bases. They seem to eat up supply quickly and are a pain to ship to.
ORIGINAL: Sangeli
Terrain, terrain, terrain. The Chinese are woefully bad in offensive attacks in terrain.

I know... It's hard to suppress the knee-jerk reactions. At least I can be sure it won't be easy for him, either.
ORIGINAL: Sangeli
If you do raid be sure to get in and get out as quickly as possible. Don't feel guilty about wasting fuel and gathering ship damage by moving at full speed even if you don't think it is absolutely necessary. And of course always keep a replenishment fleet nearby in case fuel does get low. A surprise carrier raid is only a surprise for about one turn. Just recently I had a game where the USN carriers surprised the IJN in the Coral Sea by sinking a transport fleet only to end an in a complete Allied disaster (3 USN CVs sunk nary a IJN ship damaged) when the USN stayed an extra day for an ill-advised port strike on Port Moresby. If you want to have those fun toys in 1943 don't waste the valuable toys in 1942.

Don't worry, I'll never put more than a day into any strike. Two factors to think of: If the target has an effective search radius, it can give KB a couple days head start toward my ships. It's still some distance to cover and how willing would Cannonfodder be to firewall the throttles to get there? I think I have a squadron of F4F-7s in San Fran. It might pay to get them on a carrier and run some long range recon missions on my probable targets. The dash-7 was pretty much a flying fuel tank. I've suspended sending Seabees to Pearl, as I've hit the stacking limit there (routing them to India, by the way), so no transport missions have sailed recently.

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:13 pm
by Mundy
Correction to last post: I have F4F-3Ps, not -7s. Looking into it, the effective range of the latter isn't too effective, though the ferry range is.

04 August 1942

Hunches

The day starts off with a bang.
Sub attack near Cox's Bazar at 53,42

Japanese Ships
TK Daiei Maru, Torpedo hits 1
DD Amagiri

Allied Ships
SS Grunion

SS Grunion launches 2 torpedoes at TK Daiei Maru
Grunion diving deep ....
DD Amagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Amagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Amagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Amagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Amagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Looks like an empty tanker.

My hunch sorta came true. Bombing at Ledo stopped the previous turn, and as I guessed, he went west.
Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 42
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7
Hurricane I Trop x 4
Hurricane IIc Trop x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 7 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.79 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
51st FG/16th FS with P-40E Warhawk (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 62

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3
Hurricane I Trop x 2
Hurricane IIc Trop x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
32 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.79 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 113 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 105 minutes
51st FG/16th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 1
Hurricane I Trop x 1
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
51st FG/16th FS with P-40E Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 83 minutes
No.79 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Raid is overhead

All my fighters were from Bhopal, so their CAP just bled over. CF can hit the "airbase" here all he wants, for all I care. I upped the count at Bhopal with a half squadron of USAAF P-40s and two squadrons of RAF Hurricanes, all with external tanks on. I'm a little overstocked, support-wise, but I'm sending a base force from Hyderabad there to help. I'm guessing I'll be seeing Tojos soon, so I hope the extra numbers will help.

Jubbulpore itself is heavy with fighting LCUs to block an advance on that route. My new British division is there. When the US units arrive, I'll probably put them on the southern coastal road to threaten Calcutta.

Adak seems to have fighters present now -- about 12. No more free bombings, I guess.

I also noticed that the VFs on the carriers have upped to 36. That's a serious big deal with regard to future ops. Pretty much all the CVs will be slightly over capacity, so I can't just add the recon Wildcats on top of what's there. I'll have to think if I want to do a swap for a raid or not.


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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:56 am
by Mundy
06 August 1942

The inevitable retaliation...

Happily, no bombing at all this turn. I did have to endure sweeps at Jubbulpore, though. I tend to stack my CAP at 10k, 15k and 20k, but I think I'll have to raise it 5,000 feet each. I'm resting everyone this turn.
Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 41

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 5
Hurricane I Trop x 4
Hurricane IIb Trop x 6
Hurricane IIc Trop x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 3 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.34 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
No.79 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
51st FG/16th FS with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40E Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
No.258 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 24

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 4
Hurricane I Trop x 2
Hurricane IIb Trop x 4
Hurricane IIc Trop x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.258 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 126 minutes
No.34 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
No.79 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes
51st FG/16th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6150 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 92 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 3000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet

My Yorktowns will be out of the yard tomorrow.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:23 pm
by Mundy
08 August 1942

Another sub snooping off California.
ASW attack near San Francisco at 217,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-26, hits 2

Allied Ships
SC-522
SC-521

SS I-26 is located by SC-522
I-26 diving deep ....
SC-522 attacking submerged sub ....
SC-521 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-522 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC-521 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-521 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-521 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-521 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

One good hit, another lesser hit. These sub chasers are the newer ones with K-guns and Mousetraps. It'll be getting a little less friendly for him.

The air war grinds on. Losses about even this turn. The extra altitude settings helped, I think. One P-40 unit went to Bombay to convert to Lightnings. They're almost have strength now.
Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 41

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 10
Hurricane I Trop x 7
Hurricane IIb Trop x 12
Hurricane IIc Trop x 6
Mohawk IV x 11
P-40E Warhawk x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
Mohawk IV: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
No.30 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
No.34 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
No.67 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
No.155 Sqn RAF with Mohawk IV (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 27

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 4
Hurricane I Trop x 4
Hurricane IIb Trop x 15
Hurricane IIc Trop x 9
Mohawk IV x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.258 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
No.67 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 26040.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes
No.34 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 21990 and 23030.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
No.155 Sqn RAF with Mohawk IV (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 24040.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 22040.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 79 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
No.30 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2
Hurricane IIb Trop x 9
Hurricane IIc Trop x 3
Mohawk IV x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
No.34 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
No.67 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 27440.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 109 minutes
No.155 Sqn RAF with Mohawk IV (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 73 minutes

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:16 pm
by Mundy
09 August 1942

Quiet over India.

CF took another shot at Canton.
Ground combat at Canton (77,59)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 57225 troops, 480 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 1668

Defending force 28628 troops, 268 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 522

Japanese adjusted assault: 1142

Allied adjusted defense: 893

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2405 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 185 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 16 (1 destroyed, 15 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
520 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 88 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 21 (6 destroyed, 15 disabled)

Assaulting units:
33rd Division
116th Division
56th Division
10th Garrison Unit
Hong Kong Def Force
1st Ind.Inf.Group
20th RGC Division
47th JAAF AF Bn
Canton Special Base Force
1st JAAF AF Coy
21st Mortar Battalion
32nd JNAF AF Unit
4th Air Division
2nd JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
14th Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
6th Chinese Corps
16th Group Army
57th AT Gun Regiment

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:32 pm
by Mundy
11 August 1942

Another quiet day, apart form the daily bombings of Chungking and Canton -- not to much effect on either this time.

Ran into a sub off the west coast.
ASW attack near San Francisco at 214,73

Japanese Ships
SS I-1, hits 3, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Perkins

SS I-1 is sighted by escort
I-1 diving deep ....
DD Perkins fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Perkins attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-1 eludes ASW attack from DD Perkins
DD Perkins fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Perkins attacking submerged sub ....
DD Perkins loses contact with SS I-1
DD Perkins is out of ASW ammo
DD Perkins fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Two of those hits were good "hard" hits, with the third being the "soft" hit. Her cruise is over, I think. I don't know what the usual forum threshold is for keeping damaged subs online. I tend to pull them immediately anytime sys > 4

The USA 40th and 41st Divisions are still 15 days out from Cape Town. I should be able to easily flip one over with lots to spare. Two weeks later a lot of flak is due to arrive.

No sweeps or raids over India this day. My planes were stood down anyway. I'm waiting for my one squadron to fill up on Lightnings.

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:04 pm
by Mundy
12 August 1942

My Marshalls raid sorta got there...
Morning Air attack on TF, near Kwajalein Island at 132,115

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 7
SBD-3 Dauntless x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Yamabato Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Chitose Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
14 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
4 planes vectored on to bombers
13th Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead

Everyone was set first to Antiship, and as a secondary, hitting the various bases there. There were transports at Kwajalein itself, so the admiral in charge send in a little half-assed raid against them. One squadron of Zekes there, anyway. They're bailing back to Pearl. If CF were to firewall the throttles, he could just about get there in a day, so no thanks. A full blown cohesive strike probably would have ran over the CAP.

Next time I show, I'll have lots of amphibious TFs, along with ASW and minsweepers everywhere, which should dilute things.

Quiet everywhere else. One squadron of B-17s and one of B-18 show up at Cape Town. They haven't flipped to 12 plane squadrons yet. They're boxed up on the fastest xAPs I have and enroute for India.

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:12 pm
by Mundy
13 August 1942

Assumptions came back to bite me...badly.

Apparently, Cannonfodder was prepared to open up the throttles on KB to get to my carriers.
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Johnston Island at 152,110

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
A6M3a Zero x 43
B5N1 Kate x 7
B5N2 Kate x 99
D3A1 Val x 116

Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 1
F4F-3 Wildcat x 21
F4F-4 Wildcat x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 6 destroyed, 12 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3A Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Hornet, Bomb hits 2
CV Wasp, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB North Carolina, Bomb hits 16, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CL Nashville
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Benham
CLAA Atlanta

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
23 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
19 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
16 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
20 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
19 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
7 x B5N1 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
16 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VF-42 with F4F-3 Wildcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 9000.
Raid is overhead
VF-6 with F4F-3A Wildcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Raid is overhead
VF-8 with F4F-3 Wildcat (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 10 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 11 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes

Fuel storage explosion on CV Wasp
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Wasp

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Johnston Island at 153,108

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
A6M3a Zero x 47
B5N1 Kate x 8
B5N2 Kate x 113
D3A1 Val x 57

Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 34
F4F-3 Wildcat x 29
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed
B5N1 Kate: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 4 destroyed, 13 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 9 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3A Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 15, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CLAA San Diego, Torpedo hits 1
DD Mahan
CL Honolulu
CL Helena
CLAA San Juan, Bomb hits 8, on fire
DD Blue

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
23 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
8 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
24 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
25 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
6 x B5N1 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VF-8 with F4F-3 Wildcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(17 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(18 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 12 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
VF-42 with F4F-3 Wildcat (4 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
VF-6 with F4F-3A Wildcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 17 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes

Fuel storage explosion on CV Enterprise
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Enterprise
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Yorktown class CV

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Johnston Island at 153,108

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 8

Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 18
F4F-3 Wildcat x 20
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 6 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
VF-8 with F4F-3 Wildcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
VF-42 with F4F-3 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
VF-6 with F4F-3A Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Johnston Island at 153,108

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 9

Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 17
F4F-3 Wildcat x 14
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CL Helena
CV Enterprise, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

CAP engaged:
VF-8 with F4F-3 Wildcat (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 59 minutes
VF-42 with F4F-3 Wildcat (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
VF-6 with F4F-3A Wildcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 12 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Johnston Island at 153,108

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
B5N2 Kate x 13
D3A1 Val x 17

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 10 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Enterprise, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CV Yorktown, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Helena
DD Ralph Talbot, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..

My lame response...
Morning Air attack on TF, near Taongi at 147,110

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 42
A6M3a Zero x 70

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 29
SBD-3 Dauntless x 95
TBF-1 Avenger x 29

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 7 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 34 destroyed, 24 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 destroyed by flak
TBF-1 Avenger: 9 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Shokaku
CV Akagi
CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 1
CV Soryu
CV Hiryu
BB Kirishima, Bomb hits 3
BB Kongo
BB Hiei
CV Kaga
CVL Shoho
CVL Zuiho

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
6 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
2 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
6 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
5 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
9 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
2 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
6 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
2 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
15 planes vectored on to bombers
Kaga-1 with A6M3a Zero (1 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
Hiryu-1 with A6M3a Zero (1 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
Shokaku-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with A6M3a Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
Shoho-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuiho-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Taongi at 148,110

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 37
A6M3a Zero x 65

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 19
TBF-1 Avenger x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 7 destroyed
TBF-1 Avenger: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M3a Zero (4 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 32810.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
Kaga-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Zuiho-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Taongi at 148,110

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
A6M3a Zero x 63

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M3a Zero (4 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 24407.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
Kaga-1 with A6M3a Zero (12 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 32810.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M3a Zero (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M3a Zero (2 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M3a Zero (3 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
Zuiho-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes

As fate would have it, they engaged as pretty much maximum range for me, regulating my TBFs to glide bombing. It always seems to happen that way for me. If we were closer, I might have dealt a bit more back.

All my managed was a single hit on a 'kaku, with my crack TBF pilots hitting a Kongo instead of a carrier. I did beat up some straggling unescorted Kate strikes, which is little consolation.

Enterprise and Wasp are down. Yorktown most likely won't last the day at 90 flt. Hornet took minor damage, and I'm sending her and any undamaged escorts back under full speed. If his forces react to York, they may get away.

My over-consciousness to sys damage cost me here. Any move on the Marshalls is hereby scrubbed until at least mid-1943. I'll just have to stonewall in the Pacific, which shouldn't be hard as he's not making any real moves there as of late.

Elsewhere, another five bomber squadrons arrive at Cape Town, with three arriving the previous day. Packed up and shipped. I may be able to start thinking about hitting things in a month or so.

CF made a go at Chungking. I'm guessing a lone armored unit crossed a river, as the scale was small.
Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2679 troops, 182 guns, 139 vehicles, Assault Value = 1546

Defending force 118085 troops, 235 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2486

Japanese adjusted assault: 0

Allied adjusted defense: 6017

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 58 (53 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
15th/A Division
12th Tank Regiment
41st/A Division
13th Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
35th Division
14th Division
11th Tank Regiment
15th/B Division
15th/C Division
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
4th Mortar Battalion
1st Army
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
19th Chinese Corps
10th Construction Regiment
8th Chinese Corps
5th New Chinese Corps
58th Chinese Corps
7th Construction Regiment
83rd Chinese Corps
91st Chinese Corps
11th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Corps
60th Chinese Corps
303rd Brigade
3rd Construction Regiment
71st Chinese Corps
23rd Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
95th Chinese Corps
29th Chinese Corps
8th Construction Regiment
12th Construction Regiment
4th Chinese Base Force
10th Group Army
CAF HQ
China Command
19th Chinese Base Force
14th Chinese Base Force
18th Artillery Regiment
14th Group Army
24th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Base Force
1st War Area
Red Chinese Army
15th Group Army
13th Group Army
49th AA Regiment
37th Group Army
Central Reserve
16th Construction Regiment
7th Group Army
25th Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
1st Artillery Regiment
3rd Group Army
1st Chinese Base Force
Lusu War Area
23rd Group Army
56th AT Gun Regiment
21st Chinese Base Force
Another go at Canton. I think my time left there is on the clock now.
Ground combat at Canton (77,59)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 52851 troops, 462 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 1605

Defending force 27692 troops, 256 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 435

Japanese adjusted assault: 1077

Allied adjusted defense: 677

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1660 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 152 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1255 casualties reported
Squads: 80 destroyed, 89 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 29 (4 destroyed, 25 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st Ind.Inf.Group
10th Garrison Unit
56th Division
33rd Division
Hong Kong Def Force
116th Division
20th RGC Division
47th JAAF AF Bn
4th Air Division
21st Mortar Battalion
Canton Special Base Force
1st JAAF AF Coy
32nd JNAF AF Unit
2nd JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
14th Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
6th Chinese Corps
16th Group Army
57th AT Gun Regiment

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:18 pm
by Malagant
Wow that hurts.

Your poor SBDs were slaughtered.

Tough luck there mate :(

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:04 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
He brought the full monty; the whole enchilada [&:]

CV Shokaku
CV Akagi
CV Zuikaku
CV Soryu
CV Hiryu
CV Kaga
CVL Shoho
CVL Zuiho
BB Kirishima
BB Kongo
BB Hiei


Very hard to compete with these odds... how many carriers you had? four? [:(]

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:24 pm
by Mundy
That I expected. Going back to the Port Moresby invasion, it's been SOP for him to include *every* carrier in his TF.



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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:28 pm
by Sangeli
Tough break. You see why I have been pressing you to be more conservative with your USN CVs from the start. Regardless of the mission, there is a danger in using your CVs. And in an offensive strike such as the one you attempted this is even more so.

I bet CF is trying to trap all your units in Chungking by moving into the hex from all 6 directions. This is the beginning of the end for China.

From my (limited) perspective it seems the entire Allied war machine is collapsing in the summer of 42. A 3 to 1 VP edge at the end of 42 is basically a guarantee now and it likely will be closer to 5 to 1 I think. In terms of long term planning I think you have very limited options as the Japanese position is extremely strong all over. The IJA will be freed from China and you have lost too much in India to do anything but defend what you already have. And now with the USN badly behind in the CV war that will severely reduce your capacity for amphibious attacks. The only way I can see the Allies making real progress in late 1943 is on the backs of the USAAF through overwhelming firepower. If you do intend to continue, this is the time to allow for a long strategic stalemate while you rebuild and reorganize.

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:31 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
I also notice he brought A6M3a ... while you are still flying Wildcats F3 .. and even F3As ...

My advice:
1st don't give up!!
2nd: go balls deep in India; you don't need carriers there; and of course you cannot do anything now on the Pacific until late 43... so I would just move everything out of PH, Australia, etc. just keep the minimum required to make any new Japanese conquest hard.

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:42 pm
by BBfanboy
Were you close enough to Johnston Is. for some of your airgroup survivors to land there?

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:08 pm
by Mundy
Don't worry guys, I'm not hanging it up.

In my last game all my carriers were dead by Jan 42 and my opponent was running an aggressive anti-commerce campaign against Australia, pretty much starving them.

Lot of what-ifs here, like if the Lexingtons were available. They might have died too, or they might have made a difference. Another 70+ fighters would have helped. I probably would have dished out a bit more, if he didn't show up at the very max range. Pure bad luck there -- just like me showing up a half day out of synch at Kwajalein.

Jorge, I think you misread a bit. I didn't have Buffalos on board. They were F4F-3As, the de-tuned version of the Wildcat with Pratt and Whitneys. Performance-wise, the -3 should be a bit better than the -4, with a small armament hit.

Come the end of January, one of the Suva VMFs will be the first to get Corsairs. Once my USAAF squadron in Bombay is ready, I'll introduce CF to a 30,000' Lightning sweep.

I don't think they got to Johnston Is. Didn't see a message about it, plus the strikes flew a long way to the IJN.

I can sit tight. The real war, from the US/UK side is in India, and I've got a regular conveyor belt of stuff moving there. My impression is that he's sitting tight with his current holdings in India. I've seen nothing moving past the bases he now has. Raipur and Benares are the extend he's gone so far. I have a few squadrons of recon on auto-pilot watching for anything. I've been moving more engineers to Karachi, due to it's lower airfield level. I've had to go to Bombay to upgrade any squadrons. I may pull a good part of the Royal Navy out of Bombay to help escort stuff from Cape Town. There's no way I can be offensive with them right now, anyway. He's been keeping a sub most of the time west of Karachi.

China is a mess. I've still been getting reinforcements at Chungking, kicking me back up to 2,000 AV. I have a ton of units at Sian and Ankang, lots of which of beat up, but I'm probably at least 1,500 AV between them. The roads are blocked with his guys, so it'll be hard to move them west. I may make a move for Kienko. I wish I was a god of war here, but it's hard for me to form a picture of how to get set up. The Chinese can't fight for everything, but losing too many cities screws them badly, supply-wise.

I have another CVE due pretty soon. Looking at what it's carrying, it looks replenishment-oriented.

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:52 pm
by Sangeli
ORIGINAL: Mundy
My impression is that he's sitting tight with his current holdings in India. I've seen nothing moving past the bases he now has. Raipur and Benares are the extend he's gone so far.
That may have been the case before but I think with the USN neutralized that Japan will try to capitalize on the situation and be more aggressive in India. Very good chance the KB will be split up with half headed to the IO. I think it is almost certain that Japan will attempt a major naval blockade of India and perhaps even try to take Bombay/Karachi. Get ready...

RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:56 am
by Mundy
Wow.... about 190 hits on this thread since yesterday morning.  I guess I'm being read.  [:)]
 
Sangeli, I'm not sure he'd want to throw KB westwards.  I still have two good carriers -- three if Hornet escapes, which can still pose a threat to things.  One CVE is in San Francisco, training up a VMSB.  This should be due to flip to "carrier trained" pretty soon, as it's been at least a month.  If he did go for India, I'd most likely move my air forces inland.  He'd do his damage on the coast, but I'd probably keep my air intact from that threat.  Not that I'd be a threat myself.  I've come to accept that the RAF will rarely harm a ship.  My last RN carrier is due to withdraw within a month.
 
If I knew KB was out west, I'd probably pounce on the Marshalls at that point.  Unless he's made late changes, his air power there seems to be patrol and fighters.  I still have 13 battleships for a relatively safe situation like this.  It would be nice if Intel Monkey threw me a bone now and then.
 
I've been setting up a base at Lord Howe.  If he's still looking at lower Australia, it'll be another speed bump in the way.  I have two Spitfire squadrons in Oz now, both at two planes each.  I'm sure it's at least two months before they're up to strength.  I have lots of Beaufighters in the pool, but not many squadrons to take them.  P-40 for Australia are over 50, too.
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