RE: 1945 February 03
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:11 pm
China east.


What's your Strategy?
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The troops at Wuchang are barely sweating and will continue tomorrow. At Pucheng we seem to have only tanks out of action and will also continue tomorrow. In the woods across from Ichang our units must rest, but achieved very good results, 3 to 1. Only one of the two Imperial units retreated, so after resting we should be able to punish the remaining unit severely. Tsinkiang was liberated and our forces are pursuing. Lastly, a group of zombies was eliminated on a major road.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Wuchang (84,51)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 35218 troops, 401 guns, 137 vehicles, Assault Value = 1032
Defending force 7010 troops, 87 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 216
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4
Allied adjusted assault: 960
Japanese adjusted defense: 365
Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 4)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 4
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), op mode(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
725 casualties reported
Squads: 28 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (9 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
396 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 53 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Assaulting units:
6th New Chinese Corps
9th Australian Division
544th Field Artillery Battalion
II Australian Corps
517th Field Artillery Battalion
208th Field Regiment
Defending units:
22nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
64th Inf Group Brigade
3rd South Seas Det.
26th AA Regiment
9th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
10th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
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Ground combat at 86,58 (near Pucheng)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 3248 troops, 21 guns, 83 vehicles, Assault Value = 160
Defending force 3794 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 106
Allied adjusted assault: 133
Japanese adjusted defense: 520
Allied assault odds: 1 to 3
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
287 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 12 (3 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Assaulting units:
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
111th LRP Brigade
Defending units:
3rd Infantry Regiment
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Ground combat at 84,48 (near Ichang)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 33959 troops, 285 guns, 1526 vehicles, Assault Value = 1604
Defending force 7851 troops, 50 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 238
Allied adjusted assault: 1350
Japanese adjusted defense: 347
Allied assault odds: 3 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
5141 casualties reported
Squads: 179 destroyed, 37 disabled
Non Combat: 127 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 15 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 29 (23 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units retreated 1
Allied ground losses:
1084 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 113 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
268th Motorised Brigade
17th Motorised Division
50th Tank Brigade
254th Armoured Brigade
150th RAC Regiment
255th Indian Tank Brigade
18th Cavalry Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
Gardner's Horse Regiment
36th Chinese Division
Defending units:
12th Ind.Infantry Brigade
17th/B Division
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Ground combat at Tsinkiang (84,61)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 4329 troops, 74 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 132
Defending force 3868 troops, 22 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 59
Allied adjusted assault: 117
Japanese adjusted defense: 23
Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied forces CAPTURE Tsinkiang !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)
Japanese ground losses:
1261 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 75 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 31 (31 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 4
Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
22nd Australian Brigade
Defending units:
51st Recon Regiment
2nd RGC Route Brigade
Amoy Special Base Force
1st JAAF AF Coy
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Ground combat at 81,54 (near Hengyang)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 6587 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 229
Defending force 161 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1
Allied adjusted assault: 240
Japanese adjusted defense: 1
Allied assault odds: 240 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)
Japanese ground losses:
233 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 25 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
96th Chinese Division
Defending units:
Ankei SNLF
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Our troops are tired but two additional units have arrived on scene and all will attack tomorrow.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Batangas (79,78)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 11451 troops, 130 guns, 241 vehicles, Assault Value = 655
Defending force 11536 troops, 73 guns, 85 vehicles, Assault Value = 282
Allied adjusted assault: 215
Japanese adjusted defense: 210
Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 4
Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), morale(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
245 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 20 (2 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
256 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Vehicles lost 22 (3 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Assaulting units:
1st Regiment
11th NZ Brigade
29th British Brigade
2nd Regiment
12th NZ Brigade
Fiji Brigade
50th Indian Para Brigade
Defending units:
27th Tank Regiment
102nd Infantry Regiment
13th Ind.Mixed Regiment
79th Brigade
39th/B Division
1st South Seas Det.
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ORIGINAL: witpqs
I am toying with the idea of waiting until the arrival of the B-29B model, made specifically for night raids, before beginning nighttime strategic bombing (limiting myself to daytime before March 1). What do you guys think?
I absolutely will resume the strategic bombing campaign. The only reason it stopped was heavy bomber losses, in other words successful defense. The only thing I'm toying with at the moment is waiting on night strategic bombing until the March 1 date.ORIGINAL: Macclan5
ORIGINAL: witpqs
I am toying with the idea of waiting until the arrival of the B-29B model, made specifically for night raids, before beginning nighttime strategic bombing (limiting myself to daytime before March 1). What do you guys think?
You speak to the very question I was asking vis a vis what 'on' at Okinawa.
I am hardly an expert here; much less experienced than yourself.
However I (naively ?) believed that damage to the home islands in any form is important ? Manpower / Industry / even small Campfires vis a vis what you accomplished in DEI back in 42 - 43 ?
<I am not refering to the artificial construct of Strategic Points>
Historically the Allies were generally big proponents of strategic bombing despite evidence that demonstrated it was not always that effective or that a cost benefit analysis might demonstrate better use of assets. There were detractors to be certain ; but in Europe and the Pacific the strategic bombing proponents generally held the day <exception Transport plan leading to Normandy>. I am biased to the historical nature of this game.
All this to say Nighttime firestorm bombing runs starting even small camp fires if not totally effective are historic.
In historical context I would throw whatever you have into the pot ; I would tend to play that way.
I am keenly interested in your decision and your own experience. Was the bombing in DEI worth it ??
If not for my first game - for my next few. There are many interesting lessons in this AAR I am pondering.
Attack at Wuchang continues tomorrow; rest near Pucheng. Our troops that crossed the river opposite Ichang will attack tomorrow. Chuhsien, although with less certain recon, is down to 4 units and ~9,500 troops. Although a Bde moving from the NW has a long way to march across terrain, we will move in the Bde on the road from the west along with a large number of artillery and AA units. To the NE the main spearhead is waiting on one division to join the armor & artillery at the point of contact before the first attack (they are facing ~19,000 troops in 2 units). The remaining divisions will remain back due to stacking limits.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Wuchang (84,51)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 34757 troops, 401 guns, 137 vehicles, Assault Value = 971
Defending force 6406 troops, 76 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 183
Allied adjusted assault: 834
Japanese adjusted defense: 631
Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
438 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (5 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
656 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 69 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Assaulting units:
6th New Chinese Corps
9th Australian Division
517th Field Artillery Battalion
544th Field Artillery Battalion
II Australian Corps
208th Field Regiment
Defending units:
22nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
64th Inf Group Brigade
3rd South Seas Det.
9th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
26th AA Regiment
10th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
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Ground combat at 86,58 (near Pucheng)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 3219 troops, 21 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 147
Defending force 3550 troops, 24 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 83
Allied adjusted assault: 75
Japanese adjusted defense: 106
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
199 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
97 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
111th LRP Brigade
Defending units:
3rd Infantry Regiment
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Rest tomorrow, continue the day after.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Batangas (79,78)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 18682 troops, 202 guns, 265 vehicles, Assault Value = 620
Defending force 11126 troops, 73 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 247
Allied adjusted assault: 288
Japanese adjusted defense: 214
Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3
Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), morale(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
523 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 29 (16 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
402 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 51 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 21 (6 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Assaulting units:
2nd Regiment
29th British Brigade
Fiji Brigade
12th NZ Brigade
1st Regiment
11th NZ Brigade
50th Indian Para Brigade
Defending units:
27th Tank Regiment
79th Brigade
102nd Infantry Regiment
39th/B Division
13th Ind.Mixed Regiment
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Our troops at Wuchang are a little tired but will continue as the Imperials are continuing to withdraw. The units near Ichang will speed to hit an Imperial Bde in the open before it makes Hankow. Troops are seen leaving Hankow and Sinyang, so we seek to impede as many of them as possible. Once that Bde is out of the way, the armour will move to the hex between Hankow and Sinyang to cut road & rail while the infantry moves into Hankow. If we gain a good position, we can move some armour into Sinyang to prevent strategic movement out on the rail.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Wuchang (84,51)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 34296 troops, 401 guns, 137 vehicles, Assault Value = 917
Defending force 6025 troops, 71 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 168
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2
Allied adjusted assault: 642
Japanese adjusted defense: 623
Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
959 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 46 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
238 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Assaulting units:
6th New Chinese Corps
9th Australian Division
II Australian Corps
517th Field Artillery Battalion
544th Field Artillery Battalion
208th Field Regiment
Defending units:
22nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
64th Inf Group Brigade
3rd South Seas Det.
26th AA Regiment
9th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
10th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
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Ground combat at 84,48 (near Ichang)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 33720 troops, 326 guns, 1556 vehicles, Assault Value = 1620
Defending force 315 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1
Allied adjusted assault: 1418
Japanese adjusted defense: 1
Allied assault odds: 1418 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
303 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 62 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
150th RAC Regiment
268th Motorised Brigade
Gardner's Horse Regiment
18th Cavalry Regiment
255th Indian Tank Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
23rd LRP Brigade
17th Motorised Division
254th Armoured Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
36th Chinese Division
109th Anti Tank Regiment
Defending units:
12th Ind.Infantry Brigade
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Ground combat at Taongi (136,107)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 285 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0
Allied adjusted assault: 10
Japanese adjusted defense: 1
Allied assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 0)
Allied forces CAPTURE Taongi !!!
Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)
Assaulting units:
2nd Fiji Commando Battalion
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