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RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:44 am
by Haree78
ORIGINAL: Ardryn

So I started a new game with Extended and I turned off race events in the start-up options and so far I've had exactly zero crashes. So, I guess the next step will be finding out which race file and which event is causing me to crash.

I wonder if it is the Yor racial event? I've had a crash with that a long time in the past and reported it. If anyone crashes with the Yor let me know and report in tech support forums please.

RE: Distant Worlds Extended Universe 1.0 released 40 races

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:56 am
by Locarnus
ORIGINAL: Haree78

ORIGINAL: Locarnus


I created an extended tech tree mod (called DW:U BalanceMod in honor of CaptainKwok's SE:5 BM),
which also has a version compatible with DW:U Extended 1.0.

The mod basically stretches the tech tree and rebalances early hyperdrives and some other stuff.

tm.asp?m=3624576

I spotted that mod, sounds awesome, might have to check out how the game feels like that :)


Thanks!
It is in an early stage and including/balancing the racial techs from vanilla and extended is only done rudimentary as of now.

My first priority at the moment is the early game pirate/ai empire balance and the overall research costs.

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:35 pm
by TheRevanchist
This mod is absolutely incredible. Thank you [&o]
Btw I made a reskin of your Extended Mod using Star Wars images found on this forum and elsewhere. Do you mind if I post it on the forum?
Of course I will give you credits [:)]

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:10 pm
by Haree78
ORIGINAL: TheRevanchist

This mod is absolutely incredible. Thank you [&o]
Btw I made a reskin of your Extended Mod using Star Wars images found on this forum and elsewhere. Do you mind if I post it on the forum?
Of course I will give you credits [:)]

Yep no problem, just link to the mod with any credits given [;)]

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:39 pm
by vmxa_slith
Is there a site where I can down load this without getting any of the stealth apps? Stealing of my home page and the like? Don't mind paying real dollars, if need be. Just do not want any more ASK or Bing crap.

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:26 pm
by vmxa_slith
FYI one of the things that managed to get install or attempted was one of those PC fixer apps. I tried to run Norton, but for the first time in years it got an error? Wonder how that happened? I had to reinstall Norton to run a scan. So all in all lost about 90 minutes trying to get a small download. That I still do not even have. So be warned.


Edit:

I just noticed that some engine called Voiced is now my search engine, so that for that. Now I will need to try remove that crap. Hope it is nowhere near as hard to do as Bing.

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:54 pm
by AnddyiRaynor
ORIGINAL: vmxa

Is there a site where I can down load this without getting any of the stealth apps? Stealing of my home page and the like? Don't mind paying real dollars, if need be. Just do not want any more ASK or Bing crap.

Just get adblocker and never get a ad popup ever again while you have it on. (Mine is a addon for firefox)

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:55 am
by Haree78
The link I provide is a direct link to my mod, a zip file. If clicking a link at mediafire doesn't provide you with that then you have been tricked by an advert to click the wrong thing.
As recommended by Anddy use adblocker, the internet is a much nicer place with it.

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:29 pm
by Haree78
I've added a download link for the mod combined with Das's Chrome UI Blue mod 1.3.

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:15 pm
by necaradan666
Is there any reason that extended includes the default weapon graphics? Are all the included help files edited for the mod or are they just base game duplicates? I'd suggest slimming the package down if these files are not required eg I'd prefer not to have clutter overriding the graphical mods I installed to my base folder when only torpedo_8 is actually needed as part of the mod.

Any chance you could add hull overlays/coloured outlines to the included shipsets ala GEM as an option?

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:56 pm
by Tcby
I'm curious about your reasoning behind not giving the Napoar a unique component. I'd think that their back story and colonization bonus would lend them to a cheaper colonization module. It would be seriously against their pacifist nature to use troop transports, which would normally be a large hindrance given that invasion is a far better choice early game: colony ships take a long time to build and represent something of a risk given that they won't necessarily work on independents. Was there some sort of technical limitation that prevented you from doing so, or was it a design decision?

Thanks :)

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:48 pm
by Haree78
@necaradan666
Help files and components are included because when I wasn't including them all the game would crash or stuff wouldn't show up.

I personally don't like the outlines on ships, but I can appreciate some would. Regardless, I wont be updating my mod to be compatible with other mods people create, especially cosmetic mods as there is a lot of them. So far other mods are mostly doing it the other way around and making theirs compatible with mine, which I really appreciate.

@Tcby
I looked at the possibilities I had with modding and wanted to give certain races some more unique feeling, I also didn't want to go overboard throwing in a ton of new tech with very little interesting added. It also had to add to the flavour of the race. And then of course there was some rebalancing. Napoar already get cheaper research for colonisation, a cheaper colonization module is a nice idea, one I didn't think of at the time, but I don't think it adds that much to the game really.
I did want to do some growth rate bonus research for races actually, not the Napoar, but I would have to add that tech to a unique component, ie. a unique colonization module and I didn't like the idea as unique colonization modules is pretty messy for next to no variety in stats.
I don't really understand your comment about troop transports, was it just in reference to making colonization as cheap as troop transports for them? I think the Napoar are really in a good place right now with their quick access to the various colonization tech and being able to colonize Volcanic from the start.

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:58 pm
by Tcby
Thanks for the explanation, that all makes sense. Regarding troop transports, I was referring to an early game dilemma I've faced with using the Napoar. At the start of the game a top priority is to take over independent colonies, because their population is so much better than that of a planet you found yourself. With the Napoar their pacifist nature is expressed well in their pitiful troops. With this in mind, I do my best to avoid building troop transports because it doesn't make sense for the gentle robots to take over colonies by force. The down side is that despite having a bonus to colonization research, my actual rate of expansion early- mid game is very slow, because I'm building colony ships instead of troop transports (a build difference of many months). Because the Napoar don't have any bonus to construction speed there are also quite a few races that build colony ships faster than them, and so have an edge in that part of expansion as well.

For some reason the Napoar struck a chord with me, so I like to use them. But playing them as their personality suggests is somewhat...difficult. I often feel like I'm intentionally making a lot of poor gameplay decisions simply to fit with their personality.

But that's just one person's experience. I respect your design decisions and appreciate your work [&o]

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:48 pm
by Haree78
Oh I understand, it's like a question of am I playing to win or to role play. If it helps your conscience to not play optimally for the sake of 'how would my race handle this?' then there is a reputation hit for going the aggressive route ;)

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:44 pm
by pycco
ORIGINAL: Haree78

I've added a download link for the mod combined with Das's Chrome UI Blue mod 1.3.
very nice, thank you so much for the time and effort

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:54 pm
by Wanabe
I think I found a bug with your mod. It seems that the Yl'Ta design templates don't get used because the folder needs to be named "yl'ta" rather than "ylta".

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:06 am
by Haree78
Looks like you are right, I didn't spot it because it was putting the right weapon types because of research priorities, just not the right amount.
I will add a fix for the next game version where it looks like I will have to update lots of design templates anyway [X(]

For now they look like they are working pretty well even though they aren't exactly my design.

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:57 pm
by AnddyiRaynor
Does that mean you should also rename the race file yl'ta.txt? Instead of ylta, it may not matter but it makes sense :P. At the very least if they don't realize to use the ylta designTemplates they will at least use the default ones.

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:45 pm
by TheRevanchist
ok Thank you! [:)]

RE: Distant Worlds Extended

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:34 pm
by LeFoureur
Thank !