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Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:38 am**

[font="Verdana"]Allied Shiplosses[/font]
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Obviously poor Lex stands out on the list. She was lost in the same fashion as Warspite. Detached to an escort TF with a lone DD as escort after taking a single TT she was then hit with an additional 3 TTs.

Overall Allied losses so far are very light. The PH BBs doesn´t bother me much. Too slow and drink too much fuel. The 3 CAs hurt but they were lost for a good cause (protecting Lex and Ent). DDs losses have been a pleasant surprise. 13 Allied lost vs 9 Japanese.

I won´t post the Japanese list as its riddled with inaccuracies. For instance Kaga as well as 2 BBs are listed as sunk which they arn´t. Also 3 CAs listed which havn´t been sunk either.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:42 am**

[font="Verdana"]Air War[/font]
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Nick is driving his air force hard! I guess in a SCEN 2 environment he can afford it. I would say very close to 40-50% of his losses have been over PH.

All the Vals and most of the Kates are from the KB. Hopefully some good pilots were lost in the process. [:)]

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:08 am**

Ouff, suffering from the "no turn to do syndrome" [:(]

Did everything I could in the kitchen until the actual kitchen comes tomorrow. Had hoped to spend the day flipping some turns but Nick is busy and forum activity is really low today.

To sum it up. I´m bored. [:(]

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:57 am**

Eye twitching is how it starts. Then hands start shaking, sometimes following by vomiting and in rare cases uncontrollable flagelence or a condition known as hot dog finger.

It's called PTWS - Post Turn WITP Syndrome

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:06 pm**

ORIGINAL: vicberg

Eye twitching is how it starts. Then hands start shaking, sometimes following by vomiting and in rare cases uncontrollable flagelence or a condition known as hot dog finger.

It's called PTWS - Post Turn WITP Syndrome

Haha! [:D]

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:34 pm**

ORIGINAL: vicberg

Eye twitching is how it starts. Then hands start shaking, sometimes following by vomiting and in rare cases uncontrollable flagelence or a condition known as hot dog finger.

It's called PTWS - Post Turn WITP Syndrome

Vic will get it this weekend

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:35 pm**

Well hey, at least you don't have to withdraw Warspite now, or repair that expensive tub! [:'(]

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:48 pm**

ORIGINAL: BillBrown
Vic will get it this weekend

He has my sympathy! [:D]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Well hey, at least you don't have to withdraw Warspite now, or repair that expensive tub! [:'(]

Hah! Very funny! [:'(]

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:50 pm**

Impressive that you downed mostly his good (for this period) aircraft while losing mostly your oldest/least valuable ..... until we get to the PBY-5s. Ouch!
Do you have enough of the older PBY-4s to fill the gap? Also not sure when the PBY-5a starts arriving.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:08 pm**

Are you worried about potential early autovictory?

It seems he is off to a faster vp start than Mr Kane, but your overall game attitude is very good.

You are taking everything in stride...even in China.

I am curious, what do you have the Queen do? And how about my favorite ship, the LeTriomphant?

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:30 pm**

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Impressive that you downed mostly his good (for this period) aircraft while losing mostly your oldest/least valuable ..... until we get to the PBY-5s. Ouch!
Do you have enough of the older PBY-4s to fill the gap? Also not sure when the PBY-5a starts arriving.

Cat-4 pool is empty I´m afraid. [:(] Cat-5 and Cat-5A are already rolling off the line with 8 and 9 per month. Will take 6-8 months before my squadrons are back at full strength.

This is somewhat mitigated by the fact that I don´t have a long supply line in CENT/SOPAC to cover though.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:33 pm**

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

This is somewhat mitigated by the fact that I don´t have a long supply line in CENT/SOPAC to cover though.

"Good news, sir! The fire was put out by the extensive flooding!"

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:34 pm**

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Well hey, at least you don't have to withdraw Warspite now, or repair that expensive tub! [:'(]

I prefer "fuel pig."

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:41 pm**

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Are you worried about potential early autovictory?

It seems he is off to a faster vp start than Mr Kane, but your overall game attitude is very good.

You are taking everything in stride...even in China.

I am curious, what do you have the Queen do? And how about my favorite ship, the LeTriomphant?

Of course I am worried. I just try not to think about it too much! [:)] Its a fun and interesting opening and I´m really curious to see what Nick will do next!

China is what it is. You can´t really do anything about is as the allies. You can be the best AE player in the world but if the Japanese player wants China he will get it. So I just try my best. If I can avoid a total collapse until 4/42 I´ll consider it an allied victory. [:)]

The queen is currently ferrying a third of the 27th ID to SOPAC. I have yet to decide where I´ll dump them though. Le Triumphant is part of a US/OZ/NZ TF trying to find prey in the Solomons. Have to pull out though as I was hit with a 7/7 DL last turn. Dang. [:)]

Overall I´m having a lot of fun with this game. Nicks aggressive start allows for a bit of allied fun to balance out the incredible depressing first months of the war.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:00 pm**

I agree China is a huge mess, but everyone seems to want to rationalize and build lines of defence in good terrain, which gives the IJA clear targets to concentrate on.
I have been thinking (after hints from Alfred) that maybe the key to China is not to clean up the mess but to make it worse! The Chinese advantage is huge numbers of units and relatively low supply requirements for their low-tech units. Perhaps the war of maneuver that Alfred suggested is a guerilla war, where Chinese units scatter shotgun-style everywhere - so many places the IJA cannot concentrate to hit them all.

Go after every rail and road junction in the south, take every undefended town and airfield, find isolated IJA units and surround them before they can bring up help. Unit get destroyed? When they re-spawn just send them back into the fray in the south. It will be chaotic and bloody but a lot of fun and may give Nick fits!

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:34 pm**

Hi Joc.

Who is the "Trusty" commander?

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:47 am**

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

I agree China is a huge mess, but everyone seems to want to rationalize and build lines of defence in good terrain, which gives the IJA clear targets to concentrate on.
I have been thinking (after hints from Alfred) that maybe the key to China is not to clean up the mess but to make it worse! The Chinese advantage is huge numbers of units and relatively low supply requirements for their low-tech units. Perhaps the war of maneuver that Alfred suggested is a guerilla war, where Chinese units scatter shotgun-style everywhere - so many places the IJA cannot concentrate to hit them all.

Go after every rail and road junction in the south, take every undefended town and airfield, find isolated IJA units and surround them before they can bring up help. Unit get destroyed? When they re-spawn just send them back into the fray in the south. It will be chaotic and bloody but a lot of fun and may give Nick fits!

I think Alfreds lack of PBEM experience is showing at times. While something like that might work against the AI doing it against a human would be a short lived affair. [:)] A scattered Chinese army can neither defend them self nor be a threat against even lightly guarded Japanese location. Not to mention the fact that the Japanese can move way faster then any Chinese units using better interior lines.

All the Japanese would have to do is to let loose the air force and defend a few key position while they cut the main Chinese artery (Lanchow-Chungking). By the time the Chinese closed on anything important they would have been reduced to rubble from the air, completely out of supply and unable to overcome even the smallest Japanese garrison.

It would certainly be fun to watch something like that but it would fail miserably. [:)]

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:50 am**

ORIGINAL: bigred
Hi Joc.
Who is the "Trusty" commander?

Kilgore C. Its the starting commander. Can´t see his stats while at sea but I think he had really good Naval and decent aggression.

In my game vs. Erik Trusty sank more then any other allied sub by a big margin. Love that sub. [:)] Sadly she was sunk by ASW air (as 90% of my allied subs) late in the war. [:(]

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:38 am**

[font="Verdana"]February 9th-10th 1942[/font]
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Two quick turns last night! Lots of action!

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Pacific
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Over the two turn I probably saw 15 sub attacks around PH. All misses or duds until the very last one on the 10th!

ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 180,107

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga, Torpedo hits 1
BB Ise
DMS W-20
DMS W-6
E Tobui
E Uruyame
E Omae
DMS Tatsuko

Allied Ships
SS S-27, hits 4

Later doing the night she shows up bombing PH without even being on fire. So probably no more then a couple of SYS.

Nick continues to unload at PH. The CD guns sinks a few xAKLs and probably two xAKs during the two days. Then the inevitable attack comes.

Ground combat at Pearl Harbor (180,107)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 76345 troops, 681 guns, 493 vehicles, Assault Value = 2344

Defending force 53227 troops, 780 guns, 525 vehicles, Assault Value = 540

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 2533

Allied adjusted defense: 1079

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1247 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 110 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 9 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 82 (23 destroyed, 59 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2498 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 127 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 70 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 30 disabled
Guns lost 71 (5 destroyed, 66 disabled)
Vehicles lost 62 (7 destroyed, 55 disabled)

Base will fall next attack. Sent all subs in to refuel so they can return to the WC or head to OZ. All the S-boats are sent to NORPAC while most of the fleet subs go to Sydney. A few will head to Balboa and then to CT.

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:44 am**

[font="Verdana"]February 9th-10th 1942[/font]
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DEI
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The RN ambushes a big convoy at Sabang. Result are extremely underwhelming. [:(]

ight Time Surface Combat, near Sabang at 44,70, Range 13,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PC Ashi, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
PB Kohuku Maru, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
xAK Kashii Maru
xAK Aobasan Maru
xAK Asakasan Maru, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Atutasan Maru
xAK Kenyo Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Kogyo Maru
xAK Tatutaki Maru
xAK Teiyo Maru
xAK Tatumiya Maru
xAK Tatuwa Maru
xAK Yamabiko Maru
xAK Yamagiri Maru
xAK Naruto Maru
xAK Noto Maru, Shell hits 14, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Nissyu Maru
xAK Mogamigawa Maru
xAK Keisyo Maru
xAK Koei Maru
xAK Koryu Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire
xAK Kikukawa Maru
xAK Iburi Maru
xAK Akagisan Maru
xAK Kokai Maru
xAK Hino Maru #3
xAK Sinsyu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
xAK Osaka Maru
xAK Hankow Maru, Shell hits 3
xAK Monji Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
xAK Koto Maru
xAK Kasagi Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
PB Sensan Maru, Shell hits 17, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Cornwall
CA Exeter, Shell hits 1
CL Mauritius
DD Isis
DD Jupiter

...Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...[8|]

First attack at Batavia doesn´t bode well for the Allies.

Ground combat at Batavia (49,98)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 49540 troops, 486 guns, 265 vehicles, Assault Value = 1456

Defending force 22774 troops, 184 guns, 78 vehicles, Assault Value = 461

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 875

Allied adjusted defense: 349

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
873 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 56 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2454 casualties reported
Squads: 30 destroyed, 157 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 78 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 45 (3 destroyed, 42 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Assaulting units:
16th Infantry Regiment
5th Division
15th Ind Engineer Regiment
4th Ind Engineer Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
19th Ind Engineer Regiment
56th Engineer Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
2nd Engineer Regiment
38th Division
20th Ind Engineer Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
16th Army
56th Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
16th AA Regiment

Japanese also secure Christmas Island. The remaining Allied combat ships are refueling from two AOs out of Japanese search range. Most of them will head down to OZ while 2 Dutch CLs will have to head to CT for repairs.

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