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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:05 am
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Who is arguing about anything? Maybe my comment was not clear in its intent? Have you assumed a) b) and c) are sequential?
I am talking about individual impulses. Given the weather - and the maelstrom that is no doubt going to hit the Chinese, I need to keep some of my 5 moves aside for the Chinese.
Any left over (along with rail and air rebases) will be used to garrison the border with dem Narzeyes.
To the extent that I safely can, units will be allocated to Karelia and the Karelian Isthmus for possible use in Finland.
I was expressing myself poorly. [:(] I am agreeing with you.
Point a) is what it is and we can't affect this other than to cancel offensive manoeuvres which we currently have none.
Point b) is currently done. The border ratios is secure unless Axis begins shifting major forces to the border. Germany is currently 37 units away from declaring war. Japan is 6 units away so that area needs watching although Japan has difficulty getting units to this area. So as long as USSR has reinforcements available to be placed (or pilots and planes in the reserve pool) then this front should be secure.
USSR should be ready for a possible winter attack by Germany. Once January 1941 arrives Germany is very likely to be able to declare war on USSR. With the option "breaking the Nazi pact" in play it is very tough in stopping Germany from breaking the pact during '40 if they so desire.
Soon it will be revealed what Axis plans to do during '40 and CW is not in a good position to do much about it. CW has been reacting to Axis moves to much for comfort. I've been pondering on how to defend Bayonne, Spain, Algeria, Gibraltar, Spanish Morocco, and Morocco. And my conclusion is that CW will not be able to provide a defence I am comfortable with. I still believe, or rather hope, that the CW pre-war goals for this area might be achieved.
The Soviet position, on the other hand, is fairly good. The question is how it will become even stronger when 1941 arrives.
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:56 am
by warspite1
The Soviet orders
French navy entirely subordinate to the RN. I am assuming a naval with the CW to get all our ducks in a row because we are going to need to try and end this turn ASAP! Nothing "clever" to be done now other than make sure there are no easy wins given to the enemy if possible i.e. max defence of Gibraltar, Egypt/Syria.
Do we use the units in France as suicide troops or are they needed for Gib?
Soviets
Rail Movement
6-6 Arm to Persia to Novgorod
Land
5-3 Tianshui to one hex east
5-3 to Zhukov
1-5 to Zhukov
4-4 Timoshenko to 28,52
5-4 Leningrad to 37,54
Re-base
SB-2RK Persia to Stavropol
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:18 am
by Orm
I suspect that the forces in Bayonne will be left for quite a while. There is no sea lift available even if I wanted them evacuated. And at the moment I think they annoy the Axis, and one of my main goals with CW is to make them annoyed. Maybe annoyed isn't the right word. [:)]
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:19 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
I suspect that the forces in Bayonne will be left for quite a while. There is no sea lift available even if I wanted them evacuated. And at the moment I think they annoy the Axis, and one of my main goals with CW is to make them annoyed. Maybe annoyed isn't the right word. [:)]
warspite1
PITA? [:D]
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:31 am
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
I suspect that the forces in Bayonne will be left for quite a while. There is no sea lift available even if I wanted them evacuated. And at the moment I think they annoy the Axis, and one of my main goals with CW is to make them annoyed. Maybe annoyed isn't the right word. [:)]
warspite1
PITA? [:D]
I rather be in their face than in their rear. [:D]
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:43 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
I suspect that the forces in Bayonne will be left for quite a while. There is no sea lift available even if I wanted them evacuated. And at the moment I think they annoy the Axis, and one of my main goals with CW is to make them annoyed. Maybe annoyed isn't the right word. [:)]
warspite1
PITA? [:D]
I rather be in their face than in their rear. [:D]
warspite1
Cheeky! [;)]
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:48 am
by Orm
I am doing the CW and French naval now. Do you think I should keep the convoys in Bay of Biscay and Cape St. Vincent or beginning with the rerouting?
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:52 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
I am doing the CW and French naval now. Do you think I should keep the convoys in Bay of Biscay and Cape St. Vincent or beginning with the rerouting?
warspite1
If we can re-route then yes go for it. Do we have enough CP for that though?
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:57 am
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
I am doing the CW and French naval now. Do you think I should keep the convoys in Bay of Biscay and Cape St. Vincent or beginning with the rerouting?
warspite1
If we can re-route then yes go for it. Do we have enough CP for that though?
Not enough to do it in one turn.
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:59 am
by Orm
My initial plan was to stay in both sea areas to get Axis to spend energy, resources, and time, on the convoy war.
But, alas, I am behind my plan, or maybe one could say that Axis is way ahead.
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:01 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
I am doing the CW and French naval now. Do you think I should keep the convoys in Bay of Biscay and Cape St. Vincent or beginning with the rerouting?
warspite1
If we can re-route then yes go for it. Do we have enough CP for that though?
Not enough to do it in one turn.
warspite1
Depends then on how big a hit we have to take, but let's be honest, unless we start getting good luck on the weather / turn length / moving first / combat throws.... er just about everything really, then the Axis are going to move through Spain like a hot knife through butter.
I think everything we do is with a view to allowing us the
ability to end the turn early.... and then hope..
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:06 am
by Orm
While I want a short turn I also want Axis to end it. I really want the turn marker to move one step to the middle point.
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:09 am
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Depends then on how big a hit we have to take, but let's be honest, unless we start getting good luck on the weather / turn length / moving first / combat throws.... er just about everything really, then the Axis are going to move through Spain like a hot knife through butter.
Axis are going to move through Spain at full speed regardless of any speed bumps we throw in their way. It was comes after Spain that worries me.
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:11 am
by Orm
With that said I really would like to get a US entry roll for 'CW support Spain' but getting that might be tricky.
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:20 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
While I want a short turn I also want Axis to end it. I really want the turn marker to move one step to the middle point.
warspite1
Sure, but we cannot allow that as a reason for not passing surely? If the dice are going to roll in the Axis favour then no matter how much we don't end the turn, its not going to help - and will just damage our chances more due to the Axis getting more impulses. Of course they may get that anyway if the turn-end throws are rubbish...... [:D]
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:21 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Depends then on how big a hit we have to take, but let's be honest, unless we start getting good luck on the weather / turn length / moving first / combat throws.... er just about everything really, then the Axis are going to move through Spain like a hot knife through butter.
Axis are going to move through Spain at full speed regardless of any speed bumps we throw in their way. It was comes after Spain that worries me.
warspite1
Well as I am in the way, that kind of worries me too, but let's worry about one cataclysm at a time. I'm a bloke, I can't multi-task [:)]
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:22 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
With that said I really would like to get a US entry roll for 'CW support Spain' but getting that might be tricky.
warspite1
....and based on US entry throws so far, it would also fail anyway.......[:D]
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:30 am
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
With that said I really would like to get a US entry roll for 'CW support Spain' but getting that might be tricky.
warspite1
....and based on US entry throws so far, it would also fail anyway.......[:D]
Here is the quotes you were looking for but didn't find. [;)]
"If at first you don't succeed, Mr. Warspite"
"Try, try again, Orm."
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:31 am
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Depends then on how big a hit we have to take, but let's be honest, unless we start getting good luck on the weather / turn length / moving first / combat throws.... er just about everything really, then the Axis are going to move through Spain like a hot knife through butter.
Axis are going to move through Spain at full speed regardless of any speed bumps we throw in their way. It was comes after Spain that worries me.
warspite1
Well as I am in the way, that kind of worries me too, but let's worry about one cataclysm at a time. I'm a bloke, I can't multi-task [:)]
That is why I moved past Spain. [:D]
RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:42 am
by warspite1
Okay first question before looking at any orders.
Are we in a position to try and end the turn? 30% chance if we all pass?