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RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:41 pm
by warspite1
Sweden 1-2 Ukraine
Footbal is nuts. Ukraine were toilet in the group stage. They qualifed with 3 points and a minus goal difference and........
Sweden will see that as an opportunity lost. Easily the better team, but a couple of players weren’t firing on all cylinders.... oh and they hit the woodwork many times. Small margins.
Brutal last half hour.......
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:54 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: warspite1
I did say I wouldn't comment but........... England fans moan (rightly) because invariably they have no star players that can unlock a defence. And in the old days of Hoddle or Le Tissier, we never played them when we actually did have them once in a blue moon....
We now have Mount, Foden and Grealish. Apparently none of these will start tonight. Right.
Can't wait for balls in behind the German defence, the incisive passes that carve up the German midfield etc etc..... Well I'll have to wait. Indeed I'll be waiting a long time with this team....
warspite1
And Grealish was involved in both goals....... just sayin’
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:04 pm
by shunwick
And so England and Ukraine go through to the quarter finals.
Germany and Sweden go home.
Best wishes,
Steve
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:15 pm
by shunwick
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: warspite1
I did say I wouldn't comment but........... England fans moan (rightly) because invariably they have no star players that can unlock a defence. And in the old days of Hoddle or Le Tissier, we never played them when we actually did have them once in a blue moon....
We now have Mount, Foden and Grealish. Apparently none of these will start tonight. Right.
Can't wait for balls in behind the German defence, the incisive passes that carve up the German midfield etc etc..... Well I'll have to wait. Indeed I'll be waiting a long time with this team....
warspite1
And Grealish was involved in both goals....... just sayin’
One of England's strengths. When you can bring the likes of Foden, Mount, Grealish, Henderson, Rashford and Sancho off the bench....
Southgate's is making the most of his squad. He knows the games come thick and fast. He knows that extra-time is brutal in international tournament play. I don't always agree with his safety-first strategy. He has got away with it so far but it is strategy that can bite your bum in the end. I hope it works out for him but I worry about it.
Best wishes,
Steve
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:29 pm
by IslandInland
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:10 am
by shunwick
Grr Argh...
No football today...
... or tomorrow...
Is this what the end of civilization feels like?
Best wishes,
Steve
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:42 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: shunwick
Grr Argh...
No football today...
... or tomorrow...
Is this what the end of civilization feels like?
Best wishes,
Steve
Go unplugged and in the woods for a week or two, you will find out just how liberating that is.
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:18 pm
by Piteas
Well, the America Cup is football too.
10 teams, 2 groups. Tomorrow the most interesting... Peru-Paraguay! [:D]
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:27 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Piteas
Well, the America Cup is football too.
10 teams, 2 groups. Tomorrow the most interesting... Peru-Paraguay! [:D]
warspite1
So they have two groups of five and all play each other once so that.... one team can be eliminated from each group.
I thought the Euro groups was bad enough where only 6 of the 24 teams were eliminated at the group stage.....
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:23 am
by shunwick
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Piteas
Well, the America Cup is football too.
10 teams, 2 groups. Tomorrow the most interesting... Peru-Paraguay! [:D]
warspite1
So they have two groups of five and all play each other once so that.... one team can be eliminated from each group.
I thought the Euro groups was bad enough where only 6 of the 24 teams were eliminated at the group stage.....
[/quoteThe big problem for CONMEBOL (apart from being as corrupt, useless, and ineffective as UEFA, and FIFA)) is that there are only ten nations in South America. To organize and pay for international tournaments one needs TV interest and people putting bums on seats. That means as many matches as possible in the brief window of opportunity that exists. Football and money... whodaguessd.
Best wishes,
Steve
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:13 am
by shunwick
ORIGINAL: Piteas
Well, the America Cup is football too.
10 teams, 2 groups. Tomorrow the most interesting... Peru-Paraguay! [:D]
Interesting game certainly.
Peruvian Ceviche takes on the Paraguyan Sopa Paraguaya (which despite its name is not a soup.)
I fancy the Paraguayans in this quarter final. The Peruvians can mix it up but I still think the Paraguayans will prevail.
Best wishes,
Steve
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:16 am
by shunwick
Oops.
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:32 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: shunwick
The big problem for CONMEBOL (apart from being as corrupt, useless, and ineffective as UEFA, and FIFA)) is that there are only ten nations in South America. To organize and pay for international tournaments one needs TV interest and people putting bums on seats. That means as many matches as possible in the brief window of opportunity that exists. Football and money... whodaguessd.
Best wishes,
Steve
warspite1
They invited a couple of North/Central Americans to play in the tournament to build out the numbers - I guess Covid stopped that this time around?
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:05 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: shunwick
The big problem for CONMEBOL (apart from being as corrupt, useless, and ineffective as UEFA, and FIFA)) is that there are only ten nations in South America. To organize and pay for international tournaments one needs TV interest and people putting bums on seats. That means as many matches as possible in the brief window of opportunity that exists. Football and money... whodaguessd.
Best wishes,
Steve
warspite1
They invited a couple of North/Central Americans to play in the tournament to build out the numbers - I guess Covid stopped that this time around?
Well, I suppose you could say that Australia, and Qatar, is a couple of North/Central Americans that were invited to play. And while you might be right that they were invited, I claim that you are wrong in that they are from North/Central America. [;)] [:D]
Australia, and Qatar, were invited, and had accepted. But they had to withdraw when the delay in this tournament, and the delay in their own qualifiers for the 2022 World Cup, made the events clash.
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:50 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: shunwick
The big problem for CONMEBOL (apart from being as corrupt, useless, and ineffective as UEFA, and FIFA)) is that there are only ten nations in South America. To organize and pay for international tournaments one needs TV interest and people putting bums on seats. That means as many matches as possible in the brief window of opportunity that exists. Football and money... whodaguessd.
Best wishes,
Steve
warspite1
They invited a couple of North/Central Americans to play in the tournament to build out the numbers - I guess Covid stopped that this time around?
Well, I suppose you could say that Australia, and Qatar, is a couple of North/Central Americans that were invited to play. And while you might be right that they were invited, I claim that you are wrong in that they are from North/Central America. [;)] [:D]
Australia, and Qatar, were invited, and had accepted. But they had to withdraw when the delay in this tournament, and the delay in their own qualifiers for the 2022 World Cup, made the events clash.
warspite1
I was talking about previous Copa Americas. I had no idea anyone would be invited with Covid around, but it seems the net was trawled further afield this time.... and not surprisingly the invitation was not taken up.
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:17 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
warspite1
They invited a couple of North/Central Americans to play in the tournament to build out the numbers - I guess Covid stopped that this time around?
Well, I suppose you could say that Australia, and Qatar, is a couple of North/Central Americans that were invited to play. And while you might be right that they were invited, I claim that you are wrong in that they are from North/Central America. [;)] [:D]
Australia, and Qatar, were invited, and had accepted. But they had to withdraw when the delay in this tournament, and the delay in their own qualifiers for the 2022 World Cup, made the events clash.
warspite1
I was talking about previous Copa Americas. I had no idea anyone would be invited with Covid around, but it seems the net was trawled further afield this time.... and not surprisingly the invitation was not taken up.
It is my understanding that the tournament was planned pre-covid, and then delayed one year because of covid. Qatar has appeared before, I think, in Copa America. Anyway. Both teams had accepted. But the one year delay made their own world cup qualifications clash with the Copa America so they had to withdraw. So, in my understanding, the reason for Australia, and Qatar, to withdraw was rather indirectly cause by covid.
A lot of sporting events were delayed last year, so now there is a lot. And some of it simultaneously.
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:16 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm
Well, I suppose you could say that Australia, and Qatar, is a couple of North/Central Americans that were invited to play. And while you might be right that they were invited, I claim that you are wrong in that they are from North/Central America. [;)] [:D]
Australia, and Qatar, were invited, and had accepted. But they had to withdraw when the delay in this tournament, and the delay in their own qualifiers for the 2022 World Cup, made the events clash.
warspite1
I was talking about previous Copa Americas. I had no idea anyone would be invited with Covid around, but it seems the net was trawled further afield this time.... and not surprisingly the invitation was not taken up.
It is my understanding that the tournament was planned pre-covid, and then delayed one year because of covid. Qatar has appeared before, I think, in Copa America. Anyway. Both teams had accepted. But the one year delay made their own world cup qualifications clash with the Copa America so they had to withdraw. So, in my understanding, the reason for Australia, and Qatar, to withdraw was rather indirectly cause by covid.
A lot of sporting events were delayed last year, so now there is a lot. And some of it simultaneously.
warspite1
You are right. According to Wiki Qatar and Japan were invited in 2019.
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 8:05 am
by shunwick
Now that we have established that Australia and Qatar are not in North/Central America...
The quarter finals start today.
Euro 2020
Switzerland v Spain
Belgium v Italy
Copa America 2021
Peru v Paraguay
Three intriguing games. I would love to see Switzerland, Italy, and Paraguay victorious. Tough games for all of them.
Best wishes,
Steve
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:21 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: shunwick
Now that we have established that Australia and Qatar are not in North/Central America...
Best wishes,
Steve
warspite1
That is so typical of you shunwick. How very dare you assume Australia's geographic position vis a vis the imperialist notion of what is or isn't a continent.
If Australia wants to be South American then that is their right.
RE: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:25 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: shunwick
The quarter finals start today.
Euro 2020
Switzerland v Spain
Belgium v Italy
Copa America 2021
Peru v Paraguay
Three intriguing games. I would love to see Switzerland, Italy, and Paraguay victorious. Tough games for all of them.
Best wishes,
Steve
warspite1
We are in agreement. Although in some ways I wouldn't mind Belgium getting through because if, by some miracle, we do get to play them, then I still believe their Spurs and ex-spurs central defence is suspect - not to mention that the right back Meunier is the worst player to play for Dortmund in the history of German football.
But best not to worry about that. Yes, Forza Italy.
Got to be honest about Peru vs Paraguay. I am sort of in couldn't care less corner on this one..... in fact no. I am going for darkest Peru on the basis that that is who Paddington Bear supports.