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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:05 pm
by Schmart
ORIGINAL: Banori
It seems like the " Reichs Götterdämmerung" has begun, and it will end quickly
Terje, fire up your Wagner for next little while [:D]
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:35 pm
by Flaviusx
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:11 am
by terje439
Nah, need to RAISE my spirit, so I went with
Sabaton's Ghost Division. Seems about right when my panzers are my best units at the moment [:D]
Terje
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:19 am
by terje439
Turn 144
Overall
Well, we have managed to get our best troops back to the Oder Line (with a few exceptions), the USSR is attacking us everywhere, and it seems likely we will lose quite a few divisions in the south. Oh well nothing that can be done about that THIS turn atleast. We will see what we manage to rail out next turn, if any.
A total of 64 USSR attacks result in 8 helds, 57 retreats and 1 rout. We are still able to force the USSR to keep attacking the same old worn down units over and over, that atleast is something. Our 1 attack resulted in a USSR retreat, so a 100% success rate. Cannot ask for more now can we [:D]
Losses
USSR : 102.000 troops, 1.026 guns, 522 AFVs, 650 AC.
Axis : 76.000 troops, 1.961 guns, 141 AFVs, 10 AC.
German Pools
Manpower : 13.324
Vehicle : 271.764
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 1 That guy again. You know the one that ALWAYS gets picked last for everything...
Turns to mud
3. Seems I will have a little time to improve the last defensive line after all. And this time the rivers will not be frozen when the enemy tries to cross.
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:34 am
by randallw
Congratulations on making it into 1944!
The guns n' mortar losses on both sides each turn are pretty hefty; why are the air losses so one sided? Do you have no Luftwaffe left to die?
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:39 pm
by terje439
ORIGINAL: randallw
Congratulations on making it into 1944!
The guns n' mortar losses on both sides each turn are pretty hefty; why are the air losses so one sided? Do you have no Luftwaffe left to die?
Thanks [:)]
Hehehe I have AC enough in my pools to last me untill kingdom come. Nah, the onesided aerial results are most likely since I am not flying that many offensive missions anymore. I am not really attacking, so my fighters are flying defensive CAP and shooting down alot of USSR planes doing so.
Terje
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:47 pm
by Walloc
Hi Terje,
Any chance of a OOB/losses update, please?
Kind regards,
Rasmus
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:51 pm
by terje439
ORIGINAL: Walloc
Hi Terje,
Any chance of a OOB/losses update, please?
Kind regards,
Rasmus
Sure, lots of screens taken at the start of turn 144 follows below.
Terje
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:51 pm
by terje439
Ground losses
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:52 pm
by terje439
Air losses
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:52 pm
by terje439
OOB
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:53 pm
by terje439
German pools, focused on AC to answer Randallw properly [;)]
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:54 pm
by terje439
Ground units ranked by CV high -> low
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:55 pm
by terje439
Aerial groups, sorted by number of kills
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:55 pm
by terje439
Dead generals
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:56 pm
by terje439
That was the ones I took, if anything else is wanted, just ask.
Terje
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:05 pm
by Walloc
Thx Terje.
Kind regards,
Rasmus
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:30 pm
by Walloc
About the tigers in the pool. I get ur frustration and u could ask the question why cant i make units/put em into other units.
I can understand that line of thinking.
Another question/line of thinking one could do. Is asking why do I have 7,3k AFV/Tanks and so on in my OOB. Things arent exactly going great and i know ur to some extend saving ur pz formations. Non the less looking at all the later war AARs there seems to be a trend of AFV/Tank/So on being significantly to much higher than historic numbers. Begging the question do ppl take enough pz losses with the current engine? or is it just a function of ppl using those formations different.
If u look at what Kursk vs the losses retreating/fighting through Ukraine did to the Pz Truppen. There is a marked diffence. Ofc the latter toke much longer too, affecting any comparions. But if u further look at how tigers was lost. The single highest loss cause to Tigers was destruction by own crews. Lack of fuel, cant repair or transport issues rather than turning over to the enemy and so on. One can ask if these difficulties are represented in game to a high enough degree.
If seen in that light the 250 tigers in pool can be in looked at in a number of ways. Not that it helps on ur frustration [:(]and it isnt a criitic of u Terje. Its just doesnt seem like many ask those type of question and well u sparked me to write this.
Kind regards,
Rasmus
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:57 pm
by terje439
ORIGINAL: Walloc
About the tigers in the pool. I get ur frustration and u could ask the question why cant i make units/put em into other units.
I can understand that line of thinking.
Another question/line of thinking one could do. Is asking why do I have 7,3k AFV/Tanks and so on in my OOB. Things arent exactly going great and i know ur to some extend saving ur pz formations. Non the less looking at all the later war AARs there seems to be a trend of AFV/Tank/So on being significantly to much higher than historic numbers. Begging the question do ppl take enough pz losses with the current engine? or is it just a function of ppl using those formations different.
If u look at what Kursk vs the losses retreating through Ukraine did to the Pz Truppen. There is a marked diffence. Ofc the latter toke much longer too, affecting any comparions. But if u further look at how tigers was lost. The single highest loss cause to Tigers was destruction by own crews. Lack of fuel, cant repair or transport issues rather than turning over to the enemy and so on. One can ask if these difficulties are represented in game to a high enough degree.
If seen in that light the 250 tigers in pool can be in looked at in a number of ways. Not that it helps on ur frustration [:(]and it isnt a criitic of u Terje. Its just doesnt seem like many ask those type of question and well u sparked me to write this.
Kind regards,
Rasmus
No offence taken [:)]
BUT, if you look at it another way, it gets "weird".
1. I am virtual Adolf, my word is law
+2. I am short on tanks
+3. I have a surplus of Tigers
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=I should make a Tiger division [;)]
Terje
RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:13 pm
by Walloc
ORIGINAL: terje439
No offence taken [:)]
BUT, if you look at it another way, it gets "weird".
1. I am virtual Adolf, my word is law
+2. I am short on tanks
+3. I have a surplus of Tigers
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=I should make a Tiger division [;)]
Terje
Actually if u ask Pavel. I have seen him modifying save games if bugs of a certain severity is affecting the game. Many thx too Pavel for that btw.
It doesnt hurt to ask........... if he wouldnt be so kind as to insert Panzer Division Lintho( ToE of 250 tigers) [:D]
Kind regards,
Rasmus