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August 11, 12 1944

Jeff's idea was a good one. Unfortunately I wasn't focused and i lost a juicy opportunity...Rader this turn moved out of Iwo all those bombers...[:(]...

We bombed Ominato and Hachinoe (yes CC, the clear hex south of Ominato where we're gonna land)...our BBs didn't a good job this time...but our bombers hit hard and on the second day targetted specifically the AA guns (strange!) causing a lot of distruction.
Our surface fleet is ready too.
We're gonna have 2 major BB TFs (one composed of BC Reknown and BB Washington + 2 old CAs + 8 Fletchers and one composed of BB Iowa and BB N.J. plus 2 modern CA - Baltimore Class - and 8 Fletchers), followed by 4 Cruiser TFs (each composed of 3 modern CLs and 9 Fletchers) and 6 DD Divisions (4 Fletchers each)...all of them will covering the landing site.

Loading is proceeding slower than we hoped...but i think in 2 more turns we'll be ready to move from Bihoro.

Krupp...100 Battallions means...how many divisions?12? Well, we're invading Honshu with the equivalent of 20 Divisions...

I Think Dan and the others are right John...in 1944 AEs don't work that way.... but i have my major ports filled with AKEs, AEs and AOs...no shortage of any type in my ship inventory[:D]

Getting closer guys...

My surviving CVEs are moving in too...in 2 turns they'll meet the invasion fleet at Kushiro

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Night Naval bombardment of Hachinohe at 118,55 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

53 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Queen Elizabeth
BB Valiant
BB Washington

Japanese ground losses:
127 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (3 destroyed, 8 disabled)


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Morning Air attack on 31st Special Base Force, at 118,55 (Hachinohe)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes


Allied aircraft
Liberator B.III x 15
Liberator B.VI x 30
Mosquito FB.VI x 3
Wellington B.X x 15
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 22
B-25D1 Mitchell x 51
B-25H Mitchell x 62
B-25J1 Mitchell x 15
B-29-1 Superfort x 91
FM-2 Wildcat x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 25
F4U-1A Corsair x 132
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 34
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 45
PV-1 Ventura x 12


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.III: 1 damaged
Liberator B.VI: 3 damaged
Wellington B.X: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 8 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 3 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 2 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
1552 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 91 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 162 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 55 (1 destroyed, 54 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)



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Morning Air attack on Ominato , at 119,54

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 126
F4U-1A Corsair x 5


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 10 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 38
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 104

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Morning Air attack on 20th AA Regiment, at 118,55 (Hachinohe)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes


Allied aircraft
Liberator B.III x 15
Liberator B.VI x 23
Mosquito FB.VI x 3
Wellington B.X x 15
B-24D Liberator x 13
B-24D1 Liberator x 22
B-25D1 Mitchell x 33
B-25H Mitchell x 59
B-25J1 Mitchell x 15
B-29-1 Superfort x 78
F4U-1 Corsair x 24
F4U-1A Corsair x 120
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 35
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 44
PV-1 Ventura x 12


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.III: 3 damaged
Liberator B.VI: 1 damaged
Wellington B.X: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 13 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 4 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
647 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 82 destroyed, 118 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 158 (78 destroyed, 80 disabled)
Vehicles lost 96 (38 destroyed, 58 disabled)

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"We bombed Ominato and Hachinoe (yes CC, the clear hex south of Ominato where we're gonna land)..."

Serves me right for commenting on the map while at work (and not knowing the exact base names). Anyway, looking forward to the coming epic clash of steel and aluminum.

Cheers,
CC

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To better reply to Krupp and also to name those who will partecipate at the second and third wave, here the full list of the Infantry Units involved in the operation...which name now officially is

Hairy to the Bone
 
First wave:
Americal Division
37th Div
1st Cav Div
40th Div
2nd USMC Div
10th Indian Div
9th AUS Div
81st Div
6th AUS Div
Lushai Bde


Second Wave:
1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th USMC Divisions
7th Div
31st Div
33rd Div
41st Div
43rd Div
77th Div
22nd USMC Rgt
29th USMC Rgt

Third Wave:
93rd Div
2nd UK Div
82nd African Div
32nd Div
38th Div
98th Div
plus 8 different regiments/Bdes (American and Canadian)

For what concerns Armour units...:
 
First Wave:
1st USMC Amph. Tank Rgt
Prov. Tank Bde
819th TD Bn
706th Tank Bn
1st and 2nd USMC Tank Bns
3rd NZ Armoured Squadron
670th TD Bn
763rd Tank Bn
710th Tank Bn
815 TD Bn
 
Second Wave:
193rd Tank Bn
754th Tank Bn
632nd Tank Destroyer Bn
1st and 2nd USMC Amphib Tank Bns
3rd, 4th and 5th USMC Tank Bns
762nd Tank Bn
 
Third Wave:
671st TD Bn
711th Tank bn
766th Tank Bn
775th Tank Bn
716th Tank Bn
640th TD Bn
 
....if i manage to get ashore....we're gonna see lots of fireworks!

Well this is certainly going to be exciting! I think that you should be able to win this battle, those 4engines are simply able to obliterate Japanese troops in the clear hexes, and we have already seen what happens to Japanese troops even in forested terrain in the battles of Hakodate. Would it be worth trying a port attack on the turn before the landing? I think that that should specifically target the coastal guns.
Are all three waves going to be landing at Hachinohe?

ORIGINAL: yubari

Well this is certainly going to be exciting! I think that you should be able to win this battle, those 4engines are simply able to obliterate Japanese troops in the clear hexes, and we have already seen what happens to Japanese troops even in forested terrain in the battles of Hakodate. Would it be worth trying a port attack on the turn before the landing? I think that that should specifically target the coastal guns.
Are all three waves going to be landing at Hachinohe?

If rader's disposition doesn't change dramatically yes. I need to mass my forces in a single point so to have enough firepower to break his lines...once i capture a single base in Honshu....well then evrything can happen!!

[quote]"Hairy to the Bone" /quote

Ugh! I'm not touching that one!

The interesting thing now about this AAR is that, having lived in Japan now for 16 years, Ive had opportunities to visit many of the cities you are now mentioning daily. Its sort of an odd feeling. Ive been to Hachinohe a couple of times and its the last stop in the north of the bullet train.. Leave the castle intact if you can!

I don't think troops can "strategic" move into a contested hex. So, once the invasion begins, rader should have to move in reinforcements manually, which will slow him down just a bit (and GJ can use bombing missions to slow them down further).

Great theater, GJ. Thanks so much for keeping up a detailed and graphic AAR.

But shame on you for the name of this operation! [X(]

Looking forward to the mother battle!

You realize that there at least 100 people that are hardly breathing right now. [:D]

Make that 101 Dan. [8D]

[:D] Ok guys...turn sent. Will still be a sleepy turn...i made a little mess with Amphib TF composition and loading operations so i had to unload a couple of TFs... In two days (1 turn) however everything should be ready to move from Bihoro... Holding my breath with you guys...[:)]
 
And "hairy to the bone" must be pronounced with the same rythm of the well known song "Bad to the bone" [:D]

Hairy to the Bone... Hahahahairy.... hahahahhaairy.. Hairy to the Bone..

ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

Hairy to the Bone... Hahahahairy.... hahahahhaairy.. Hairy to the Bone..

Just like that! [;)]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I don't think troops can "strategic" move into a contested hex. So, once the invasion begins, rader should have to move in reinforcements manually, which will slow him down just a bit (and GJ can use bombing missions to slow them down further).

Great theater, GJ. Thanks so much for keeping up a detailed and graphic AAR.

But shame on you for the name of this operation! [X(]

You can strategic move into a contested hex as long as you own the hexside of entry.

I do this all the time in China. Lure the AI into moving against a city on the rail net and then rail in a big stack to bog them down into a siege while I surround them.

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I don't think troops can "strategic" move into a contested hex. So, once the invasion begins, rader should have to move in reinforcements manually, which will slow him down just a bit (and GJ can use bombing missions to slow them down further).

Great theater, GJ. Thanks so much for keeping up a detailed and graphic AAR.

But shame on you for the name of this operation! [X(]

You can strategic move into a contested hex as long as you own the hexside of entry.

I do this all the time in China. Lure the AI into moving against a city on the rail net and then rail in a big stack to bog them down into a siege while I surround them.

Correct! You cannot exit in strat mode from a contested hex but you can enter in it in strat mode..the only problem is that if the enemy attacks while you're still in strat mode...you LCU will be mauled

Or even bombs while still in strat mode. Say, with 400 4Es.

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