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RE: October 1944
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:17 am
by John 3rd
EXACTLY!
RE: October 1944
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:15 pm
by John 3rd
October 14, 1944
The Allied juggernaut moves slowly NE. We shall try to do something tricksy. From Wenchow sortie two STF. One TF has 2 CL and 4 DDs while the other has 2 CA and 4 DDs. There has not been a Japanese STF sortie here in quite sometime so we'll see if we can get lucky by catching AOs/TKs/AKs instead of BBs!
Expect to lose ALL these ships...

RE: October 1944
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:18 pm
by John 3rd
October 14, 1944
Staged an ambush over Malaya this turn and bagged a nice group of P-39 and B-25.
B-29 night raid over Osaka that started nearly 80,000 Fires but suffered a large number of losses. Out of 23 B-29 five are brought down by Barrage Balloons. WEIRD! Reports show 10 of 23 downed.

RE: October 1944
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:20 pm
by John 3rd
...and the Tanker movement continues. TWO TK TFs now in the clear and heading for home.

RE: October 1944
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:38 pm
by pws1225
...and the Tanker movement continues. TWO TK TFs now in the clear and heading for home.
Very nice! Keep it going as long as he will let you!


RE: October 1944
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:53 pm
by Bif1961
What altitude was the barge balloons and his raid?
RE: October 1944
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:24 pm
by John 3rd
His raid came in at 5,000 Ft.
RE: October 1944
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:57 pm
by Chickenboy
80,000 fires? What did that net in terms of VPs and damage to specific industries in Osaka?
RE: October 1944
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:28 am
by Lowpe
Balloons can be tough on the 4E...but that also means you need to pay attention to where you have your 20mm AA. Make sure all your aviation ENG units have their TOE upgrades. Every bit of AA is hideously important!
How about a picture of your industry screen in additions to CB's request about Osaka and VPs?
RE: October 1944
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:51 am
by ny59giants
While Dan has done very well against you, I'm disappointed in how little he has done to your Oil/Fuel industry. Not enough bombing AND ignoring your movement of TK/AOs to and from the DEI. I may be a novice Japanese player, but my counselor skills observe that you love your Navy and the use of it. Has Dan ignored this area or does he just think its unimportant??
RE: October 1944
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:20 am
by Lowpe
I watch this game and wonder if I am playing the same game?
Well, at some point it will all become clear. I guess.
RE: October 1944
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:46 am
by zuluhour
80,000 fires is nothing. He should be able to get to 400,000 soon. The VPs for this (I think I mentioned earlier) are huge. Don't get distracted
by it. Interesting, I don't recall any great loss to balloons. I flew at 6,ooo' and at night. Major problems for me as allied in the Strategic air
campaign: pilots (when 8th air force arrives, I had far more frames than I could use), OPs losses and recovery times, damage from NFs.
RE: October 1944
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:55 am
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: zuluhour
80,000 fires is nothing. He should be able to get to 400,000 soon.
Yes. I know that 80,000 fires can be surpassed and that, in the grand conflagration of the Japanese cities to come, it is 'nothing' relatively. However, I am interested to know the nuts and bolts of what this particular attack means on VPs and the factories in Osaka.
RE: October 1944
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:38 pm
by John 3rd
October 15, 1944
Running for your life. NEVER a good sign!

RE: October 1944
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:38 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
October 15, 1944
NEVER a good sign!
"Beware the ides of
October"? [&:] It'll never catch on.
RE: October 1944
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:42 pm
by John 3rd
October 15, 1944
Osaka
Thought this screen might show what you need. Everything was fully repaired PRIOR to the attack.
All fires are now out on the 16th.

RE: October 1944
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:48 pm
by John 3rd
Have lots more to Post but have to go to work. Will catch things up when I get home!
RE: October 1944
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:54 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
October 15, 1944
Osaka
Thought this screen might show what you need. Everything was fully repaired PRIOR to the attack.
All fires are now out on the 16th.
From a modest raid:
10% of LI damaged
5% of HI damaged
10% of refineries damaged
5% of resources damaged
7% of manpower damaged
60% of your Ki-100-I production damaged
Anything destroyed?
Without doing the math ("damaged resource points= X VPs/point"), this appears to have been a worthwhile raid for CR. Any idea (KAFF-Tracker-KAFF) how the VP picture changed as a result of this strategic bombing?
RE: October 1944
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:16 pm
by zuluhour
It would be nice to confirm it was a manpower raid. I found that 300+ B29s over say Nagasaki, at night, at 6'ooo'
yielded 4,ooo -5,oooVP cutting LI in half. I believe I could muster well over 500 after Sept. '44.
I'm not even sure what my strategic tally was?

RE: October 1944
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:21 pm
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: zuluhour
It would be nice to confirm it was a manpower raid. I found that 300+ B29s over say Nagasaki, at night, at 6'ooo'
yielded 4,ooo -5,oooVP cutting LI in half. I believe I could muster well over 500 after Sept. '44.
I'm not even sure what my strategic tally was?
Are you getting b29s and b24s confused? That would be a ton of b29s. I lost close to 70,000 strategic vp in my one finished game. Well you had 110,000 VP so you definitely didn't have 343K vp,,,the 343,000 seems roughly right.