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Posted: **Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:17 pm**

Didn't realize this was 91 posts back!

Posted: **Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:08 pm**

ORIGINAL: witpqs

Essentially, this is the same thing that Macclan5 is suggesting, but without a separate amphibious landing. Of course the big difference is "Target: Home Isands" rather than Manchuria or Korea. And I might not use Hong Kong as the exit port because it's pretty far behind the front now.

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BTW, still have 745,000 supply in Singapore with no air or LCU present and no ships home ported or in port there. After it's had a full week (to make sure one 'long' supply pull cycle has passed), I'll take steps to try and get it moving.

Thanks for responding W [8D]

I suggested 'Honkers' largely because I assume you didn't spend engineering or supply on building up Foochow or Ningpo. Hong Kong must be a level 7 port even after damage and capture and you possibly did spend resources building it up as a ship repair point as I recall.

That new note on Singers is interesting / frustrating.

I have spent a fair time in trying to play with demand supply push pull for fuel / supply / oil resources. I posted a clarification thread in the War room forum 'logistics 101 clarification'.

If you are done with waiting I think you need to create a "pull / demand side request / demand sink" above and beyond HQ movement.

Again using our above mentioned cities of Honkers / Foochow :

1) Spin up the supply demand dial in port
2) Line up a series of xAKs task forces to load supplies from your preferred 'demand sink' ~ say three TFs with 10 ships each or more..
3) Load supplies -
4) Move offshore
5) Deposit them 'somewhere'

Posted: **Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:17 pm**

ORIGINAL: Macclan5

ORIGINAL: witpqs

Essentially, this is the same thing that Macclan5 is suggesting, but without a separate amphibious landing. Of course the big difference is "Target: Home Isands" rather than Manchuria or Korea. And I might not use Hong Kong as the exit port because it's pretty far behind the front now.

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BTW, still have 745,000 supply in Singapore with no air or LCU present and no ships home ported or in port there. After it's had a full week (to make sure one 'long' supply pull cycle has passed), I'll take steps to try and get it moving.

Thanks for responding W [8D]

I suggested 'Honkers' largely because I assume you didn't spend engineering or supply on building up Foochow or Ningpo. Hong Kong must be a level 7 port even after damage and capture and you possibly did spend resources building it up as a ship repair point as I recall.

That new note on Singers is interesting / frustrating.

I have spent a fair time in trying to play with demand supply push pull for fuel / supply / oil resources. I posted a clarification thread in the War room forum 'logistics 101 clarification'.

If you are done with waiting I think you need to create a "pull / demand side request / demand sink" above and beyond HQ movement.

Again using our above mentioned cities of Honkers / Foochow :

1) Spin up the supply demand dial in port
2) Line up a series of xAKs task forces to load supplies from your preferred 'demand sink' ~ say three TFs with 10 ships each or more..
3) Load supplies -
4) Move offshore
5) Deposit them 'somewhere'

As far as moving Allied troops out of China, I will be able to use Hangchow after its capture, plus smaller ports. They can even be strat mode shipped to Formosa for combat loading there.

My plan to move Singers supply if it is stubborn: put a Command HQ at Bangkok until supply pulls there; move to Cam Ranh Bay until supply moves there; move to Haiphong until supply moves there; pull it out and let the supply flow into China. I *think* that will work.

Posted: **Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:04 pm**

Nope I think it will require "more than a few HQs" although that may slowly influence the direction.

So slowly you may be at end game.

I think you actually have to now think of supply from Singers like your IJN opponent does / did at the beginning of the game. Create a demand sink to feed the home islands...

1) Spin up dials (supply required) on a "Big" port close to the Home Islands <<i.e. Hong Kong>>

2) Create what I call a "demand sink" at the Big Port. A number of task forces sucking out supply of the desired big port one after the other and sending it somewhere ... if not to the home islands for a war economy then to the Philippines.

3) This will suck supply out of smaller bases i.e. Cam Rhan Bay and further south which in turn - "next turn" will suck supply from Bangcock/Victoria Point - which will in turn "next turn" suck supply from Singers.

Right now it moves but likely bounces back to Singers as the "largest port" without spoilage.

Here this the thread:

tm.asp?m=4068928

Here are some key points from Ser Alfreds ultimate suuply thread embedded in above:

Most automatic importation of supply (and fuel) occurs overland but under certain restricted circumstances, it can also occur over water (see s.9.3.3.3 of the manual). There is no aerial automatic importation of supply. Players can manually import, by ships both supply and fuel, but airplanes cannot transport fuel they can only transport supply. Players cannot manually directly import supply (and fuel) overland, however by manipulation of the supply required spinner or stockpile option, a player can manually exert some influence on the direction and amount of supply moved overland by the program automatically.

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6. In the absence of player intervention, raw materials produced at a base are sent to satisfy the natural demands from all bases which can trace a valid supply path back to the production site. Any surplus raw materials production is then sent to the largest port which can trace a valid supply path. The tie breaker when 2 or more equally sized ports are candidates, is the port with the highest spoilage limit.

Posted: **Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:46 pm**

I don't want to specifically pull supply to Hong Kong because that will also limit the supply released to forward bases in China. I hope my plan works - or even better does not have to work and things fix themselves.

Just when you thought it was safe to visit the supply depot...

Posted: **Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:51 pm**

Maybe it would make more sense to ship supply from Singapore to HK?

Posted: **Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:12 pm**

ORIGINAL: jwolf

Maybe it would make more sense to ship supply from Singapore to HK?

I was thinking more along the lines of a massive convoy from EC to CT to HK with about 2.5 million supply or so.

One trip would be just about enough to make China flush for the remainder of the war.

Hmm...how many liberty ships is that? The world wonders.

Posted: **Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:22 pm**

+1 Hans.

I think that is in fact the solution. Massive convoy to suck Singers dry and deposit in China.

The route I speak of above is fraught with "spoke robbing" forward bases of supply.

The route is what an efficient IJ player would create with the ultimate destination being the home islands and avoiding long sea voyages open to sub attack warfare for example ~ at least according to the various comments posted in my link and the other linked posts on Logistics 101.

The HQs will attract some supply increase slowly. Further building fortifications / airbases / port sizes will do the same but the movement even along the prime rail link is limited by code << per the logistics thread >>

• Four times per week if the overland transportation route amounts to 89 - 100
• Two times per week if the route amounts to 49 – 88
• Once per week if the route amounts to 10 – 48

By the time you get 3 X supply across some 20 bases across 50 hexes (??) just to i.e. Hong Kong .... it will take a long time to whittle down 700,000 units of stockpile in Singers and ensure it isn't bouncing back to the largest port syndrome.

Posted: **Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:49 pm**

There's lots and lots of stuff that doesn't make it into the AAR, 'cause how else can I keep network ratings up? [:D]

I've been sending convoys directly from Cape Town to Hong Kong, from West Coast to Hong Kong, from CT and WC to Formosa, WC to Hokkaido, WC to Guam, WC to Manado (pretty well ceased that run), Pearl Harbor to Hokkaido, PH to various Mariana Islands - I guess that should be covering the major current ones. China is flush with supply for now with a minimum stockpile of 4-500k in Hong Kong and lots in the field.

The way I understand supply movement, picking up supply in Singers and sending it to China will, after a while, result in the game thinking it needs to send supply overland to Singers because the player keeps loading it on ships. My first preference, therefore, is to get it to move by land. If I can't I'll ship it.

With zero units of any kind in Singapore, I think a Command HQ within pull range should draw all the supply out of Singpore. So if the supply does not move overland by itself, I'll move (by ship) a Command HQ as outlined before and we'll see how good is my understanding of supply movement.

Posted: **Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:26 am**

How "full" are those chinese units that arrived? The "starting" TOE, like at the beginning of the game (250-300 AV for each corp)? Or, emptier than that? Or their full TOE ( I don't think so but I'll ask..), around 700 AV each?

Still it's very good news, you can now use them either for attacking or for garrisoning! Should considerably speed things up in china.

Posted: **Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:11 pm**

1945 March 14

The Empire captured:
Kaoping is occupied by the Japanese

The Allies captured:
Bayombong is occupied by the Allies

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:

There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:

Imperial Naval Bombardments

Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Guiuan

Our subs are conducting secret activities.

The mines just west of Hakodate have been cleared. Another Imperial naval adventure was spied yesterday and measures were taken. The cruisers missed interception but the destroyers connected. Like Dracula, Agano herself is immortal but her escorts can be sunk.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shanghai at 95,55, Range 5,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Agano, Shell hits 1
DD Tanikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Yugiri, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Uzuki, Shell hits 5, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Laws
DD Leutze
DD Longshaw
DD Marshall, Shell hits 4

Low visibility due to Thunderstorms with 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 0% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 5,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Marshall at 5,000 yards
DD Longshaw engages DD Uzuki at 5,000 yards
DD Marshall engages DD Yugiri at 5,000 yards
DD Tanikaze engages DD Longshaw at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Marshall at 2,000 yards
DD Marshall engages DD Uzuki at 2,000 yards
DD Marshall engages DD Yugiri at 2,000 yards
DD Tanikaze engages DD Laws at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
CL Agano engages DD Marshall at 3,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Laws at 3,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Leutze at 3,000 yards
DD Laws engages DD Uzuki at 3,000 yards
Tanaka, Raizo orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range increases to 4,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Marshall at 4,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Marshall at 4,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Yugiri at 4,000 yards
DD Tanikaze engages DD Laws at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
DD Marshall engages DD Yugiri at 5,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Uzuki at 5,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Leutze at 5,000 yards
DD Laws engages DD Tanikaze at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CL Agano engages DD Marshall at 8,000 yards
DD Longshaw engages DD Uzuki at 8,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Leutze at 8,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Laws at 8,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Saishu To at 96,55, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Agano, Shell hits 1
DD Tanikaze, Shell hits 4
DD Yugiri, Shell hits 13, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Uzuki, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Laws
DD Leutze
DD Longshaw, Shell hits 2
DD Marshall

Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms with 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 0% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 26,000 yards...
Range closes to 22,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 1,000 yards...
Tanaka, Raizo crosses the 'T'
CL Agano engages DD Longshaw at 1,000 yards
DD Longshaw engages DD Tanikaze at 1,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Longshaw at 1,000 yards
DD Tanikaze engages DD Laws at 1,000 yards
Range increases to 2,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Marshall at 2,000 yards
DD Marshall engages DD Uzuki at 2,000 yards
DD Tanikaze engages DD Leutze at 2,000 yards
DD Laws engages DD Tanikaze at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
CL Agano engages DD Leutze at 4,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Longshaw at 4,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Laws at 4,000 yards
CL Agano engages DD Longshaw at 4,000 yards
DD Longshaw engages DD Uzuki at 4,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Leutze at 4,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Laws at 4,000 yards
CL Agano engages DD Leutze at 4,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Leutze at 4,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Laws at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CL Agano engages DD Leutze at 5,000 yards
DD Laws engages DD Uzuki at 5,000 yards
DD Laws engages DD Uzuki at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
DD Marshall engages DD Yugiri at 6,000 yards
DD Longshaw engages DD Uzuki at 6,000 yards
DD Laws engages DD Yugiri at 6,000 yards
DD Tanikaze engages DD Leutze at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
DD Marshall engages DD Uzuki at 8,000 yards
DD Marshall engages DD Uzuki at 8,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Yugiri at 8,000 yards
DD Tanikaze engages DD Marshall at 8,000 yards
DD Marshall engages DD Yugiri at 8,000 yards
DD Laws engages DD Uzuki at 8,000 yards
DD Laws engages DD Yugiri at 8,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages DD Laws at 8,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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They were intercepted over 100 miles out from Shanghai and never even got close to Ningpo, their recent target. The Fletchers were too fast to escape and they were caught again just to the east.

Holy Over Stacking, Batman!

Red Chinese Army arrives at Chengtu
8th Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
8th Prov Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
17th Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
19th Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
34th Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
39th Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
47th Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
59th Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
61st Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
71st Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
72nd Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
81st Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
82nd Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
89th Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
2nd War Area arrives at Chengtu
3rd Group Army arrives at Chengtu
12th Group Army arrives at Chengtu
13th Group Army arrives at Chengtu
15th Group Army arrives at Chengtu
Central Reserve arrives at Chengtu
17th Group Army arrives at Chengtu
18th Group Army arrives at Chengtu
33rd Group Army arrives at Chengtu
38th Group Army arrives at Chengtu
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps arrives at Chengtu
3rd Construction Regiment arrives at Chengtu
10th Construction Regiment arrives at Chengtu
57th AT Gun Regiment arrives at Chengtu
20th Artillery Regiment arrives at Chengtu
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment arrives at Chengtu
2nd Chinese Base Force arrives at Chengtu
6th Chinese Base Force arrives at Chengtu
12th Chinese Base Force arrives at Chengtu
21st Chinese Base Force arrives at Chengtu

Moving them out as fast as their feet will carry them. I hope the flood slows. Correction: Hong Kong has ~700,000 supply.

Slow reduction in the Philippines.

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Ground combat at Guiuan (82,85)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1249 troops, 17 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 41

Defending force 914 troops, 8 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Allied adjusted assault: 35

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 11 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), preparation(-)
fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
NG Vol Rifles Battalion

Defending units:
2nd Indpt SNLF Coy
79th JAAF AF Bn

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The last combat effective unit defending Wakkanai, the 4th Amphibious Brigade, is proving recalcitrant.

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Ground combat at Wakkanai (122,48)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28004 troops, 425 guns, 492 vehicles, Assault Value = 926

Defending force 11782 troops, 93 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 161

Allied adjusted assault: 557

Japanese adjusted defense: 479

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1516 casualties reported
Squads: 35 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 56 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
159 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
3rd Marine Division
2nd Arm Amphib Battalion
6th Marine Division
4th USMC Tank Battalion
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
9th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
6th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
3rd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
Soya Fortress
4th Amphibious Brigade
77th/C Division
73rd JAAF AF Bn
27th JNAF AF Unit
5th Area Army
63rd JAAF AF Bn
27th Air Flotilla
49th JAAF AF Bn
7th/B Division

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Tomorrow one division will rest, reducing our AV for sure but keeping on the pressure.

A number of Industry hits were had at Toyohara, Hirosaki/Aomori, and Shanghai.

Get pulled out from command of an air group, get a destroyer named after you - what a game!

Fox, D. reassigned
DD Douglas Fox arrives at Seattle

China west.

Posted: **Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:11 pm**

China east.

Posted: **Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:12 pm**

Philippines.

Posted: **Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:12 pm**

Home Islands west.

Posted: **Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:12 pm**

Home Islands east.

Posted: **Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:30 pm**

ORIGINAL: Drakanel

How "full" are those chinese units that arrived? The "starting" TOE, like at the beginning of the game (250-300 AV for each corp)? Or, emptier than that? Or their full TOE ( I don't think so but I'll ask..), around 700 AV each?

Still it's very good news, you can now use them either for attacking or for garrisoning! Should considerably speed things up in china.

Either 1/4 or 1/3, I didn't calculate any to check. They seem to be in line with the rule (which is either 1/4 or 1/3, I forget).

Posted: **Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:36 am**

1945 March 15

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:
Baler is occupied by the Allies
Allied forces CAPTURE Tienshui !!!

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:

There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:
Molu

Imperial Naval Bombardments

Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Guiuan

Our subs are conducting secret activities. They got some revenge for recent IJN sub shenanigans.

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TF 60 encounters mine field at Fusan (103,55)

Japanese Ships
DD Tanikaze, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

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Submarine attack near Fusan at 103,55

Japanese Ships
DD Tanikaze, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Zwaardvisch

DD Tanikaze is sighted by SS Zwaardvisch
SS Zwaardvisch launches 2 torpedoes at DD Tanikaze

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Submarine attack near Fusan at 103,55

Japanese Ships
DD Tanikaze, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Trusty

DD Tanikaze is sighted by SS Trusty
SS Trusty launches 2 torpedoes at DD Tanikaze

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The onslaught continues.

2nd Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
18th Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
22nd Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
48th Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
55th Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
64th Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
69th Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
115th Red Chinese Division arrives at Chengtu
1st New Chinese Corps arrives at Chengtu
5th War Area arrives at Chengtu
Jingcha War Area arrives at Chengtu
10th Group Army arrives at Chengtu
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps arrives at Chengtu
34th Separate Brigade arrives at Chengtu
7th Construction Regiment arrives at Chengtu
6th Construction Regiment arrives at Chengtu
14th Construction Regiment arrives at Chengtu
18th Artillery Regiment arrives at Chengtu
56th AT Gun Regiment arrives at Chengtu
1st Chinese Base Force arrives at Chengtu
4th Chinese Base Force arrives at Chengtu
8th Chinese Base Force arrives at Chengtu
9th Chinese Base Force arrives at Chengtu
15th Chinese Base Force arrives at Chengtu

We get a day off tomorrow, then the flood resumes for 4 days in a row. By the way, units are arriving at what looks to be 30% of infantry squads strength, plus LMG and support squads. Experience is 40...

Lest you think we are ignoring the hinterlands.

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Ground combat at Tienshui (81,38)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 564 troops, 0 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 55

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 54

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 54 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Tienshui !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:

Assaulting units:
11th PAVO Regiment

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Infantry will take a long time to catch up. We have 4 divisions plus supporting combat units in Nanking and now 2 more divisions are on the way. The last should arrive in 5 days, then we attack.

Philippines pacification.

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Ground combat at Guiuan (82,85)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1246 troops, 17 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 42

Defending force 851 troops, 8 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 6

Allied adjusted assault: 10

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), preparation(-)
fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
NG Vol Rifles Battalion

Defending units:
2nd Indpt SNLF Coy
79th JAAF AF Bn

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They will rest tomorrow.

Wakkanai wackiness.

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Ground combat at Wakkanai (122,48)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15324 troops, 279 guns, 435 vehicles, Assault Value = 914

Defending force 10708 troops, 92 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 118

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied adjusted assault: 370

Japanese adjusted defense: 177

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1385 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 60 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 22 (5 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
51 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Assaulting units:
3rd Marine Division
2nd Arm Amphib Battalion
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
6th Marine Division
4th USMC Tank Battalion
3rd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
6th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
9th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
4th Amphibious Brigade
Soya Fortress
77th/C Division
27th JNAF AF Unit
5th Area Army
73rd JAAF AF Bn
63rd JAAF AF Bn
27th Air Flotilla
49th JAAF AF Bn
7th/B Division

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All units on the line tomorrow for a full strength attack.

Air losses. We swept three HI bases and found few fighters to fight.

Posted: **Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:36 am**

China west.

Posted: **Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:36 am**

China east.

Posted: **Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:37 am**

Philippines.

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