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With the recent launch of French SSN Suffren, first of the Barracuda class, some additional data came out in the specialized press, such as this article. The bulk of it is behind a paywall though I have the full text saved.
In particular, the weapon loadout is clearly stated to be 20 in the magazine + 4 in the tubes. Currently the DB (build 477) shows 16 rounds in the Barracuda magazine, which should be therefore corrected.

Logged for change. Thanks.

-Wayne

While the L-15 is in the database for Venezuela it's missing for its home country: China (of which has a much more comprehensive loadout variety and sensor suite.) With over 100 produced, designated as the JL-10, the PLAAF variant has six underwing hardpoints, one belly pylon, and two wingtip hardpoints, allowing it to carry a wide variety of AA and AG munitions. It's sensors consist of a RWR system in the tail and a radar system (unknown if AESA or PESA) in the nose with a range of 68 miles.

Additionally, the Venezuelan L-15 is missing the Night Navigation (incl bomb/rocket delivery) and Fly-by-Wire properties. These properties should of course also be applied to the Chinese L-15.

Its loadouts include all loadouts available for the #4259 L-15 in addition to:

1x 23mm cannon or targeting pod + 4x #2214 KJ-600 DECM pod or #2110 LT-2 or #2125 HJ-10 or #1581 250 kg GPB or #221 500 kg GPB or #3226 LS-6 or #1116 PL-12 or #2866 LS-6 Extended Range or #2873 YJ-9 or #3362 PL-8 or #1116 PL-12 or #216 90mm rocket (seven rockets per pod) or #217 57mm rocket (18 rockets per pod) or #2109 PL-10 + 2x #1116 PL-12 or #1581 250 kg GPB or #221 500 kg GPB or #3362 PL-8 or #2648 PL-5E or #2214 KJ-600 DECM pod or #216 90mm rocket (seven rockets per pod) or #217 57mm rocket (18 rockets per pod) or #2109 PL-10 + 2x #3362 PL-8 or #2648 PL-5E or #2109 PL-10.



Image of PL-10's electronically scanned radar


Sources: https://www.defensenews.com/digital-sho ... t-trainer/ , https://www.popsci.com/china-air-force- ... ane-l-15b/ , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hongdu_L-15 , and https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ ... rica-30997

The #2046 R-27R1 , R-73 defense loadouts for the GPB and OFAB loadouts, R-60, and the KH-25MLT is missing from the #1186 MiG-21 Bison. The Bison variant of the Mig-21 is India's production of the Mig-21-93 which was an upgrade that allowed both for the R-77 and R-27R1 to be fired from the aircraft.

The loadout for the R-27 would be a clone of the current R-77 loadout but with the two R-77's replaced with R-27R1's.

The KH-25MLT loadout would be: x2 KH-25MLT's + x2 SRAAM's.

The AA loadouts for the current FAB/OFAB weapons it has would simply be clones of the existing ones, except two #1896 R-73's are added on.

The R-60 loadouts would be clones of all loadouts with the R-73, but the R-73's are replaced with the #2002 R-60

The KH-25MLT is mising from the database so it would have to be created, its properties would be virtually identical to the #1736 KH-25MP except it uses FLIR sensors to target surface units or ships instead of a passive radar seeker to target emitters. India first received them in 1995.

Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M ... 1_variants , https://books.google.com/books?id=LyBQB ... 93&f=false , and the SIPRI Arms Transfers Database

I noticed in the latest update that Australia's F/A-18Fs have had ATFLIRs replaced with Litening pods; I'm not sure who suggested this, but it's incorrect; the RAAF has used Litening pods on the F/A-18A/B legacy Hornets, but they're not used on (and I'm not sure they're even compatible with) the F/A-18F or EA-18G:

The RAAF is considering repurposing a number of Northrop Grumman AAQ-28(v) Litening targeting pods for use on its Lockheed Martin C-130J-30 fleet.

The pods were acquired some years ago as part of the incremental Hornet Upgrade (HUG) program undertaken on the RAAF’s F/A-18A/B ‘Classic’ Hornet fleet. But with the Hornet now preparing to leave service the pods will become surplus to requirements, as the F/A-18F Super Hornet and EA-18G Growler use the rival Raytheon AAQ-228 Advanced Targeting Forward Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) pod and the F-35A Lightning II has an in-built Electro-Optical Targeting System.

https://www.australiandefence.com.au/de ... Mvil1jq.99

Back-up sources:
https://australianaviation.com.au/2019/ ... th-c-130j/
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/au ... 18FBlockII

Australia's F/A-18Fs have had ATFLIRs replaced with Litening pods; I'm not sure who suggested this, but it's incorrect

Logged for fix.

-Wayne

Something to add Egypt has already received its first few MiG-29M2. In fact they have already had their first accident with them: https://defence-blog.com/news/newest-ru ... t.html/amp

https://sputniknews.com/world/201505251022532899/

Egypt has already received its first few MiG-29M2.

Ryan

Logged for future DB inclusion.

-Wayne

The #4398-4400 MiG-21 Lancers are missing the ability to equip the #242 R.550 Magic 2, #1897 R-60, #1049 R-3S, and #1744 R-13. In addition they're missing full loadouts of one missile as all pylons on the Lancer can equip any of the AAM's listed here and included for it in the current database.

The Magic 2, R-3S, R-60, and R-13 loadouts for all the varaints would be: combination loadouts for all those weapons similar to the current AAM WVR loadout (ex. x2 R-60 + x2 Magic 2 + 800 liter Drop tank) and full loadouts for one missile (ex. x4 R-73 or x4 Magic 2) including the 800 liter Drop tank. Also remember that each pylon can also hold up to two R-60s (as was possible on all MiG variants since the Bis derivative), so loudouts such as: x8 R-60 or x4 R-60 + x2 (other SRAAM/ground ordinance) + 800 liter Drop tank and long range WVR AA loadouts using x2 400 liter drop tanks + x1 800 liter Drop tank + any of the other SRAAMs on the remaining two pylons are also missing.

In addition defensive SRAAM loadouts (x2 SRAAM + x32 #1927 S-5 rockets) are missing for the ground attack variant.

Image of MiG-21 Lancer firing a R.550 Magic 2.


Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M ... s#Armament , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-13_(missile) , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.550_Magic , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-60_(missile) , https://books.google.com/books?id=LyBQB ... er&f=false, and the SIPRI Arms Transfer Database

An-12 Cub BP (Egypt - 1963) has a loadout for Cargo 10 tons but it won't allow you to load anything - the `Un/Load Cargo` button is grayed out and is unclickable.

The #1191, #828, #8 F/A-18C's, the #519 F/A-18D, and all American F/A-18A's are missing GBU loadouts (they'd use external designation.) They should receive the same GBU loadouts found on the #894 F/A-18, minus the Nite Hawk pod (which only entered service in 1993.) The GBU's found on the 1994 F/A-18 were in service since the early 80's or late 70's and were able to be equipped onto the aircraft since their inception, the only difference is the availability of the Nite Hawk pod which allowed for self-designation starting in 1993 with their mass adoption by the fleet (although they did technically have four pods available for use in the Gulf War.)

Sources: https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/aas-38.htm , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-10_Paveway_II , https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/gbu-12.htm , https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-18.htm , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/AAS-38 , and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell ... -18_Hornet

Please consider adding the following for Mediterranean scenarios...

Sa'ar 62 class offshore patrol vessel
Cyprus Navy
2018-
P61 Commodore Andreas Ioannides
(second vessel on order)
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa%27ar_6 ... rol_vessel

(It is also operated by Azerbaijan's coast guard...I think they have six of them.)

...and...

L9890 Trieste
Italian Navy
2022-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ship_Trieste

A5335 Vulcano
Italian Navy
2020-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSS,_Logi ... pport_Ship

Paolo Thaon di Revel-class offshore patrol vessel
Italian Navy
2021-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Tha ... rol_vessel

...and...

L-408 Anadolu
Turkish Navy (Turkey's getting an aircraft carrier...good for them...)
2021-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCG_Anadolu

TF-2000 frigate
Turkish Navy
2023-
Technical information: https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... f-2000.htm
https://turkishnavy.net/tag/tf-2000/

Thanks for considering these!

Please consider adding the following for Mediterranean scenarios...

Mark,

Logged for possible future inclusion. Thanks.

-Wayne

All variants of the Eurofighter Typoon and U.K. Typhoon are missing WVR loadouts (similar in fashion to the F-16's #19072 AIM-9M Air Superiority loadout, which gives a full loadout of Sidewinders for the F-16.) Currently no such loadout exists and the closest option is the BVR Heavy CAP loadouts that require you to load 4x BVRAAMs in addition to an optional 4x SRAAMs.

The loadouts would be: 4x SRAAMs + 3x 1000 liter Drop Tanks or 2x SRAAMs + 3x 1000 liter Drop Tanks

Display of the maximum WVR loadout of 4x missiles


Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurofighter_Typhoon and https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/ef2000/

The #2229 JL-8 is missing the #1046 PL-7, #1753 PL-5b, and #2648 PL-5E as loadable weapons. Additionally all the loadouts on the #2229 JL-8 should be present on the #2231 K-8 as it is merely the export variant of the JL-8 with updated avionics. That being the case the #2231 K-8 should also have the Bombsight-Ballistic Computing property.

The loadouts that are missing are: (the #2230 K-8W is also missing this loadout, but with the PL-5E only) 5x #1800 23mm Gsh-23L-Burst + 4x (insert any of the previously listed SRAAMs) and 5x #1800 23mm Gsh-23L-Burst + 2x (insert any of the previously listed SRAAMs) + 2x #1581 250kg GPB or 24x #217 57mm Rocket

JL-8 with armaments laid out, PL-7 seen at the bottom of image.


Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hongdu_JL-8 , https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/hongdu-k8/ , and https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraf ... aft_id=875

Please consider the following for South/East China Sea scenarios...

Darussalam-class offshore patrol vessel
Brunei
2011-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darussala ... rol_vessel
(these corvettes replaced the Waspada class)

Stenka-class patrol boat
Cambodia
1985-
Technical information (including removed weapons): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stenka-class_patrol_boat

Guardian-class patrol boat
Generic <-- vessel will be used by about a dozen small Pacific nations
2018-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian- ... atrol_boat
https://www.austal.com/ships/guardian-c ... eplacement
https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... l-boat-40/ <-- suggests main weapons will be a 30mm gun and 2 x .50 machine guns

Maharaja Lela-class frigate
Malaysia
2019-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharaja_ ... ss_frigate

Keris-class littoral mission ship
Malaysia
2021-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keris-cla ... ssion_ship
https://navaltoday.com/2019/07/12/malay ... -in-china/
https://www.janes.com/article/89931/upd ... ssion-ship

Dosan Ahn Changho-class submarine
South Korea
2020-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dosan_Ahn ... _submarine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_At ... ne_program

Maya-class destroyer
Japan
2020-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya-class_destroyer

Thanks for considering these!

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I found some error on Republic of Korea Radar Assets.

In Import Database, There is two EL/M-2080 Green Fine Radars on ROKAF EW Assets.
But In Unit Database, No Korean Green Fine [&:] and Green Fines on Import Database are Israels' (#1600).

Also, S.Korean Green Fine is not a same model of #1600 and #1182(Indian one).
They are EL/M-2080S Super Green Fine (Or Great Fine).
(You have it on Arrow 3 MD system (#2624)).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EL/M-2080_Green_Pine

Please consider adding EL/M-2080S Great Fine (2012) for ROKAF.[&o]

Please consider these platforms for scenarios set in the Indian Ocean...

Arafura-class offshore patrol vessel
Australia
2022-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arafura-c ... rol_vessel
https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... l-vessels/

MiG-29SE
Bangladesh
1999-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-29

Do-228NG MPA
Bangladesh
2013-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_228

AgustaWestland AW109
Bangladesh
2011-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_AW109

Shachi-class offshore patrol vessel
India
2018-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shachi-cl ... rol_vessel

Thanks for considering these platforms!

Please consider these Central American and Latin American platforms...

(I hope I'm not being a pest with all the requests. I'm getting back into scenario design after a bit of a hiatus and I've got a lot of ideas!)

Pauk II-class fast patrol craft (Coastal with 1 × 76 mm gun, 4 anti-submarine torpedo tubes, 2 anti-submarine weapon rocket launcher)
Cuba
1990-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Rev ... aria,_MGR)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauk-class_corvette

Rio Damuji-class frigate
Cuba
2007-
Technical information: https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... damuji.htm

Embraer EMB 314 Super Tucano
Dominican Republic
2009-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_E ... per_Tucano

Tecnam P2006T
Dominican Republic
2016-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecnam_P2006T

Point-class cutter
Dominican Republic
1999-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-class_cutter (unclear what they armed with...probably one 20mm cannon as opposed to what they had in the Vietnam War)

Cessna A-37 Dragonfly
El Salvador
1982-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_A-37_Dragonfly

Bell UH-1H
El Salvador
1982-
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_UH-1_Iroquois

Mil Mi-25 Hind-E
Nicaragua
1986
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M ... 4_variants


Mil Mi-25 Hind-D
Nicaragua
1986
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M ... 4_variants


Mil Mi-17
Nicaragua
1986
Technical information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-17

Thanks for considering these!

ORIGINAL: apache85

Hey Zaslon,

Do you mean this post?

If so a large part of the reason why it's not been completed is the formatting and lack of detail. Database updates already take a long time to actually do, and that's when all the information is laid out for us. When requests are basically 'this is wrong, go read a webpage I linked to see what needs doing' it can massively increase the amount of time it takes to figure out what needs to be changed and then go and do it. When I see a ticket like that the first thing I think is 'this is going to take me an hour to figure out what this person actually wants' which is quickly followed by 'my time could probably be better spent on a different ticket'.

This post and this post are both examples of excellent formatting and detail--as such the tickets assigned to both have already been completed. The information is laid out in a logical manner, and references are included as actual references, not just 'go read this' links.

This thread, on average, generates literally dozens of hours of development work every day. If you really want something, putting some effort into making it easy for us to do drastically increases the chances of it happening. Complaining that your request hasn't been done and taking shots at us for doing other stuff in the mean time doesn't really have the same effect.

Word of advice, you should try to follow this format they specified, it helps them get through these requests faster. Including database numbers for any weapons/vehicles already in CMANO helps as it points them to stuff that's already been made rather than having to manually search every single entry in the database to make sure they aren't duplicating any entries.

New SAM Batteries for South Korea Air Force

SAM Bty (KM-SAM Block 2 [Cheolmae-2]) (South Korea - 2020)

KM-SAM (#2686)'s Upgraded version for intercept SRBM can be added to DB 3000.
It uses completely same vechicle of its original ver. So, General Data and Signatures should not be changed.
If there is hidden spec (like maximum targeting altitude) on KM-SAM MFR, it should be change follow missile's spec.

(I don't know completely about radar mechanism of CMANO, sorry.)

KM-SAM Block 2 Missile's Known Spec;
- same size of original one (#3316) (So, same Signatures)
- Maximum range 25NM / Maximum speed 2650kt / Target altitude 80,000ft / Target Speed 6500kts
- Kinetic Warhead similar to MIM-104F
- DL/INS mid course and ARH terminal guidence

Other missile data include Properties, WRA, Propulsion, Performance Details, Fuel can be refered to MIM-104F ERINT's. (#1150)

Sources
https://nownews.seoul.co.kr/news/newsVi ... 1229601016 (Korean)
https://www.edaily.co.kr/news/read?news ... CodeNo=257 (Korean)
https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia ... rth-korea/

+) Cheolmae-2 is project name and its Official name is Cheongung. Please consider about name changing.