Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[BDukes]

Thank you!

These were supposed to be upgrades with precision bombs etc. similar to other models. When have time it would be great to have.

Thank you WS!

[BDukes]

Hellos

Look like ECM Pod on JF-17 Block III is KG-600/700. See picture.

https://twitter.com/RupprechtDeino/stat ... 6734146561

Thank!

[BDukes]

Austrial Hornet F's to get some IRST as US Navy. Make sense.

https://www.janes.com/article/91754/raa ... -with-irst

Thank!

[Hunter98]

Hello, I am a newcomer to the forum but I've played CMANO for almost a year and I realized that the database for Thailand is fairly outdated so I'd like to help update the game's database

Land Facility

HN-5A(M)-1993 HN-5B equivalent
VL-MICA-2019 Comprised of one set of TRML-3D/32-6 Radar, one Command Post and two Launcher Vehicles each with 4 missiles

Aircraft

RTAF JAS-39C/D is equipped with IRIS-T, RBS-15F, GBU-12D/B and LITENING Pod
F-16A/B eMLU entered service in 2014 with APG-68(V)9, APX-113, ALQ-213 and ALE-47 capable of mounting IRIS-T and AIM-9M
RTAF F-5E/F is capable of mounting GBU-10 and GBU-12 (Required buddy illumination normally performed by F-5F equipped with LITENING pod or ground guidance)
RTAF F-5A/E is equipped with GPU-5/A gun pod during the early 80s-early 2000s
RTAF F-5E/F is equipped with Python-4 AAM (Missile delivered in 2004 according to SIPRI)
T-50TH Advanced Trainer/Light Attack delivered in 2018 equipped with EL/M-2032 radar and can mount AIM-9P and Mk.82 bombs

Naval Ship

471 Bhumibol Adulyadej (DW-3000F Class Frigate)
551 Krabi (River Class OPV)
511 Pattani (Pattani Class OPV)

I would like to provide the pictures and links to information on our equipment but I'm currently limited by the ten posts seven days limit applied to newcomers. After which I'll be sure to provide as much public source to our equipment as possible

[BDukes]

Please add FN-16 MANPAD

It upgrade to FN-6 in DB.

he Chinese-made FN-16 is an upgrade on the FN-6 MANPADS that has been designed mainly for battlefield air defence to intercept low altitude and ultra-low altitude air targets. In particular, the FN-16 missile has an extended range of 6,000 m and the capability to pull an 18 g turn. If required, the FN-16 can also be integrated into an overall air defence system or a local air defence system

Look like China have, Pakistan get
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/fn_6.htm
https://www.janes.com/article/91749/pak ... in-2017-18
https://www.janes.com/article/79915/eff ... -sofex18d2
https://www.janes.com/article/60254/chi ... -sofex16d3

[Parel803]

This is my first post, hope it goes well is oke to do.
The Egyptian (Mistral) Gamal Abdel Nasser class has no EW/Search radar. Looking at images and video's it looks it's a MMR-3D NG. A G-band multifunction radar, sam as on the France Mistral class.
Can't post linkes to the radar and images yet.
With regards

[goodwoodrw]

I would like to see the Australian Thales Hawkei light mobility vehicle added to the DB, in particular the future version (around 2022/23) with the NASSAM surface to air system onboard. The Hawkei is a series of vehicles design to replace the aging Landrover series.

[goodwoodrw]

Here a couple shots of the Hawkei

[goodwoodrw]

Another

[BDukes]

Mistral Sam updates

Okay no biggie deals but some fixes for Mistral here.

First, adds.(Source Sipri Arms Databases). Can just copies existing MANPADS for some.
Mistral 1 MANPAD Pakistan 1995
Mistral 1 South Korea 1997
Mistral 1 MANPAD Brunei IOC 2000
Mistral 1 MANPAD Qatar (Guitar or Cutter..hahaha) 2013
Mistral 2 Saudi Arabia 2015 for MPCV SAM systems (4 missile launcher+AAA Gun) IOC 2016
https://milinme.files.wordpress.com/201 ... jpg?w=1024
https://www.armyrecognition.com/decembe ... _lohr.html
Mistral III Estonia IOC 2019
Mistral III Hungary 2018-2019
https://www.armyrecognition.com/august_ ... _2208.html

Okay Atlas, Mygale and Samantha are little more sophisticated than MANPAD. Mostly vehicle mounted multimount configs but radar or command vehicle in some case. If just add radar as separate unit not mount fine too.

Mygale SAM System Chile 1997-1998 So 4 missile launcher, add optical and IR site.

[Mygale, supplied by Thales, is a short-range modular air defence system comprising an Aspic launcher and a fire control station. The fire control station contains a TRS.2630 Griffon two-dimensional pulse Doppler radar developed by Thales.The Aspic launcher is a four-launch unit on a pedestal mount and fitted with a television sight and tracking system. Aspic can be equipped with a thermal imager, a laser range finder and an IFF transponder. Aspic can fire Mistral or Stinger missiles. Mygale can control up to eight Aspic launch stations, each with four missile launchers.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bLT1HQ-nwuA/ ... ile+ad.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SN9ZyAfvppo/ ... istral.jpg
http://futureuniverse.in/2018/10/mistra ... le-system/
Komono SAM System Indonesia (Atlas twin Launcher) Mistral 2 2017
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/komodo-4 ... ia.419440/
Oman ALBI launcher on VBL. Mistral 2 2003 ALBI is twin launcher on vehicle.
http://futureuniverse.in/2018/10/mistra ... le-system/
French Army Variants

French VBL with Albi Turret (same kind of role as US Avenger HMMMV)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPyCkE4pxKs
https://www.steelbeasts.com/topic/9284- ... k/page/10/

Samantha System

The French Army selected Samantha, a variant of the Mygale. Samantha uses a Panhard light armoured vehicle with a telescopic mast, a Griffon radar and a command and control system.
Guardian, developed by Matra and by Boeing Defense Systems, uses the Mistral and is based on the HMMWV M998 high-mobility wheeled launch platform. Some of the subsystems are common with the Boeing Avenger mobile short-range air defence system.

http://futureuniverse.in/2018/10/mistra ... le-system/
Details here. Note Griffon 2630 already in DB.
https://i1.wp.com/www.armyrecognition.c ... on_001.jpg
http://www.belgian-wings.be/Webpages/Na ... istral.htm
https://www.defense-aerospace.com/artic ... .-18).html
http://www.cmano-db.com/sensor/3303/
Need add TRS 2620/2630 (Gerfaut)as this support Rolands and Mistrals for France. You probably replace Roland radars with this.
http://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/0 ... 29.en.html
https://www.defense-aerospace.com/artic ... .-18).html

[Vici Supreme]

Missiles for Australia


Australia will receive the AIM-120D AMRAAM to equip its fleet of F/A-18s, F-35s and EA-18Gs.

http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/au ... r-missiles


Among others, the RANs new Hobart-class destroyers will carry the SM-2 Block IIIB missiles.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... siles.html
http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/au ... missiles-0

Thanks for considering!

Bump.

(Attached a SIPRI Trade Register as an additional source.)

[Vici Supreme]

ORIGINAL: KLAB

As previous post could you also please consider amending the GRAU index description for the following loadouts:

22500 Su-25TM, Russia: AT-16 Scallion [9M120 Vikhr-M]
15679 Ka-52, Russia: AT-16 Scallion [9M120 Vikhr-M], S-8KO 80mm Rockets
15670 Ka-50, Russia: AT-16 Scallion [9M120 Vikhr-M], S-8KO 80mm Rockets

9M120 refers to Ataka system

9M127-1 refers to Vikhr-M

DELETE / REDESIGNATE OR REPURPOSE THE FOLLOWING LOADOUTS FOR SU-25SM VARIANTS:

9883 Su-25SM, Russia: AT-16 Scallion [9M120 Vikhr-M]
9882 Su-25, Russia: AT-16 Scallion [9M120 Vikhr-M]

There is no reference or evidence to support that the Su-25SM has ever used the Vikhr, data refers to its integration on SU-25T and SU-39.
The only images I can find of Vikhr equipped Su-25’s are for the Su-25T and Su-39 which were prototypes, or export offerings only which did not enter full service.

Thanks for consideration, K

+1

I'd like to see this implemented as well. I recall this has been brought up a couple of times in the past. The Su-25SM is not fitted with the "Shkval" or "Skval" electro-optical targeting system which is the guidance system for these missiles. To my knowledge this not only affects the Su-25SM but also the SM2 and SM3 variants of the family, although this is only speculation on my part.

http://www.repulestudomany.hu/folyoirat ... Laszlo.pdf

[leonardus68]

Seems newest DB3000 update is missing a lot of stuff. Can a quick fix solve this ?

[stilesw]

Seems newest DB3000 update is missing a lot of stuff. Can a quick fix solve this ?

Leonte,

You are correct. There are well over 100 forum requests for additions, changes, updates, etc on existing or proposed units. Each request may have 1 to 20+ separate items included. They are considered for action based on the reference material provided which ranges from "I want this" to the inclusion of reference documents, online sites and so forth. Priority is also based on
1. Does it impact the simulation's function.
2. Is it a major error in a unit (two engines instead of four) or warhead type.
3. Is it something new that would be an important feature to have (addition of Navy's new FFG(X) platform.
4. Does the request supply good documentation. Wikipedia is not always the best primary source.
5. How much time will be involved in making the change - The entire existing F-15/16 fleet or a single aircraft?
6. Is it really a cosmetic addition (this DDG's hull number should be included).
7. I saw this in another game, why isn't here.
8. Where is the Zimbabwe's navy carrier.
9. After evaluation it's just not going to happen.

So, to your question, yes things requested are missing but may well be in the queue for work. Quick fix, not so much. Major DB change releases generally do not happen quickly but are tied to other actions such as the CMANO release updates (public, pro and future) which are dictated by the developers whom I support and are really, really busy.

-WS

[FrangibleCover]

Is there a reason that #1790 - Pave Spike Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] exists when #943 - AN/AVQ-23 Pave Spike Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] is also in the database and exactly identical? 1790 is used on Buccaneer only and 943 is used on Phantom only. Additionally the dates on the British Pave Spike pod is wrong as noted in the database itself, the RAF used the system between 1978-1992.

I don't really anticipate this making much of a difference but it reduces the number of things in the database by one and means that if I have Phantoms and Buccs in a scenario with realistic ammo then I could theoretically swap pods around.

[leonardus68]

Sorry, I remain on position: a quick fix is the really answer to the problem, because new DB update seems to occur once a year.

[stilesw]

s there a reason that #1790 - Pave Spike Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] exists when #943 - AN/AVQ-23 Pave Spike Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] is also in the database and exactly identical? 1790 is used on Buccaneer only and 943 is used on Phantom only. Additionally the dates on the British Pave Spike pod is wrong as noted in the database itself, the RAF used the system between 1978-1992.

The difference between the two entries is due to purist accuracy who prefer to have the different designations specified for the two countries: AN/AVQ-23 Pave Spike Pod [EO + LRMTS for the F-4's and Pave Spike Pod [EO + LRMTS] for the Buccaneer. Functionally they are the same. In this case having the two entries does not make any significant difference in the DB3000 function or size. However, per your comment, the dates for both pods have been updated in the next release. The pod swapping between the F-4's and Buccaneers could happen but the change is a low priority.

Thanks for the observation,

-WS

[FrangibleCover]

Purists may, in my view, stuff it [:'(]. In my view it's bad enough that you can't swap Rb 74s and AIM-9Ls about, but at least in most scenarios you don't end up with the Swedes working alongside NATO.

Thanks for the answer!

[stilesw]

UUM-44A SUBROC [10kT Nuclear DC] -- 1966-1989 seems to be equipped with a 5kT nuclear device, not a 10kT one, in the 1980-near future database.

Warhead payload corrected to 10kT in next DB3000 release.

-WS

[Parel803]

Possible adds to DB, radar on Omani Ships:

Oman Qahir class ship add radar: KH T1007 navigation radar
wiki site

Oman Khareef class ship add radar: 2 x navigation radar as seen on pictures in mast. Could not find name of the navigation radars on the internet.
Images found on wiki

cannot post url's, with regards