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ORIGINAL: mlees

I've read that there was at least one inter-war British battleship which suffered structural damage when firing full salvoes.

The British Nelson class, with the three main turrets all mounted forward of the superstructure, suffered bridge superstructure damage when the main guns were trained too far aft.

This was due to a stupid gun setup. the two first guns where on elevated platforms, but the last was not. This meant that the rearmost gun could not fire on the enemy if it was directly in front or to the rear of Nelson. But in a broadside it could bring all the guns in. This oviusly stupid gun setup was latter reguarded as major screw up.

Andi.

Edit:typos.

ORIGINAL: Graf Zeppelin

ORIGINAL: mlees

I've read that there was at least one inter-war British battleship which suffered structural damage when firing full salvoes.

The British Nelson class, with the three main turrets all mounted forward of the superstructure, suffered bridge superstructure damage when the main guns were trained too far aft.

This was due to a stupid gun setup. the two first guns where on elevated platforms, but the last was not. This meant that the rearmost gun could not fire on the enemy if it was directly in front or to the rear of Nelson. But in a broadside it could bring all the guns in. This oviusly stupid gun setup was latter reguarded as major screw up.

Andi.

Edit:typos.

Well, not necessarily. The 3 turrets forward setup on the Nelsons was in order to reduce the length of the main armoured belt- hence allow the ships to be relatively very well armoured for less cost. It was not in order to bring more firepower to bear forwards. The main requirement of a battleship was to bear all guns to bear in a broadside, which it was obviously able to do. In a traditional layout, only two turrets would be able to fire directly forward in any event.

The implications of British naval culture- "We chase, they run" is clearly seen in the lack of main armament to the rear. What is braver is the same assumption made by the French Dunquerque and Richelieu classes which followed the same layout in the words of Perrett:- " ...the implications that the French battleships would only chase is perhaps the most heroic assumption in the history of naval architecture..."

That would have been a heroic assumption only if French planners were expecting to go to war with Britain within the lifetime of those battleships.
 
It was also two centuries or so too late an evolution in their style. [:'(]

What is the current standing of the Unit Descriptions?  I may be able to help with some.

ORIGINAL: Horaf

What is the current standing of the Unit Descriptions?  I may be able to help with some.

There are a handful of air unit writeups undone (< 20). Mostly these are for the units newly added to the counter sheet. Subhunters mostly (I think).

There are slightly less than half of the land unit writeups remaining. Somewhere in this thread is Capitan's most recent list of what remanis to be done. Or you could send him an email.

I am unsure about the naval units. Terje has been honchoing that for me, but I haven't seen his most recent list of what remains to be done. A couple of weeks ago Graf Zeppelin (sp?) sent me 60+ that he has done for the US!

So, pick your chose. For land units, PM Capitan. For the others PM me.

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

There are a handful of air unit writeups undone (< 20). Mostly these are for the units newly added to the counter sheet. Subhunters mostly (I think).

I am looking to finish off the air units when Nebert and I have the Test Plan up and running.
I need to revise the existing air units anyway - got some new WWII books[:)]

ORIGINAL: Greyshaft

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

There are a handful of air unit writeups undone (< 20). Mostly these are for the units newly added to the counter sheet. Subhunters mostly (I think).

I am looking to finish off the air units when Nebert and I have the Test Plan up and running.
I need to revise the existing air units anyway - got some new WWII books[:)]

Excellent news.

ORIGINAL: Horaf

What is the current standing of the Unit Descriptions?  I may be able to help with some.

Hey Horaf

If you want to make some land write-ups, it would be better to send an email to capitan as the latest list available was posted the 8/25/2007 (see page 15 in this thread). Things have changed since this date [:)]. For example, I've made Greece, Hungary and Bulgaria + France - Maybe over people have also worked on other countries.... So the list isn't upto date!

Regards

What Grisouille says is true, I have been lagging behind somewhat but I am working to keep up (aside from my daytime work of course hehe). I am currently on a trip to Spain but I will be back soon and I will get going on updating the list for our communal final assault on the landunits. It is going to be a glorious fight!
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Horaf, if you feel like it the South Americans are mostly untouched and will need some serious attention, particularly Brazil and Argentina. PM me your email and I will get you started.
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- Jesper

If you need any help with write-ups on naval units, Im sure I could help out. I have an extensive library on WW2 navies and could maybe find some info on the more obscure ships. Let me know if I can do anything.

Cheers

PM to capitan sent!

ORIGINAL: Largus_Means

If you need any help with write-ups on naval units, Im sure I could help out. I have an extensive library on WW2 navies and could maybe find some info on the more obscure ships. Let me know if I can do anything.

Cheers

I will do that today.

Horaf has been instructed in the way of the Writeup-Jedis! We are few but our struggle is important! May the source be with you (but do not copy it).

Status-report on Landunits (all countries):
556 out of 1062 units done (52%)

DONE:
Siberian Russia 4/4 (Adam) DONE!
Finland 8/8 (Adam) DONE!
Rumania 10/10 (Adam) DONE!
Mongolia 1/1 (Adam) DONE!
Switzerland 6/6 (Adam) DONE!
Phillipines 1/1 (Adam) DONE!
Afghanistan 2/2 (Adam) DONE!
Australia 8/8 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
New Zeeland 3/3 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
South Africa 5/5 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
Denmark 1/1 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
Norway 3/3 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
Poland 14/14 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
AOI 1/1 (Mziln) DONE!
Croatia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Ecuador 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Peru 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
French Somalia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Ivory Coast 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
French Sudan 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Senegal 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Middle Congo 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Niger 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Indo-China 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
N. East Indies 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Belgian Congo 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Saudi Arabia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Iraq 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Liberia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Cameroon 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Gabon 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Madagascar 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Morroco 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Algeria 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Tunisia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Syria 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Sudan 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Nigeria 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Sierra Leone 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
British Somalialand 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Egypt 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Kenya 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Uganda 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Tanganyika 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Northern Rhodesia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Southern Rhodesia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Sweden 13/13 (Toed) DONE!
Ireland 2/2 (bj_rodhe) DONE!
Hungary 6/6 (Grisouille) DONE (but not redacted)
Bulgaria 3/3 (Grisouille) DONE (but not redacted)
France 68/68(Grisouille)DONE (but not redacted)
Greece 4/4 (Grisouille) DONE (but not redacted)

ASSIGNED but NOT DONE:
USA 50/99 (Adam)
Russia 124/146 (Adam)
Ukraine 0/8 (Adam)
Communist China 16/18 (Wosung)
Nat. China 34/38 (Wosung)
Korea 0/2 (Wosung)
Manchuko 0/4 (Wosung)
Formosa 0/1 (Wosung)
Italy 22/61 (Jimm)
Libya 0/3 (Jimm)
Eritrea 0/1 (Jimm)
Italian Somalialand 0/2 (Jimm)
Canada 1/10 (Michaelbaldur)
India 1/13 (Michaelbaldur)
Burma 0/2 (Michaelbaldur)
Germany 73/128 (Capitan)
Thailand 0/1 (Capitan)
Palestine 0/1 (Capitan)
Aden 0/1 (Capitan)
New Caledonia 0/1 (Capitan)
Belgium 0/4 (BredsjöMagnus)
Nat. Spain 2/14 (SPerdomo)
Yugoslavia 1/9 (Dale)
Zoya and Tito 0/2 Dale)
Northern Ireland 0/1 (IrishDrago0nGuards)
Japan 11/76 (Hazpak)
SS-Germany 0/19 (Grisouille)
UK 9/57 (bj_rodhe)
Brasil 0/5 (Horaf)
Argentina 0/3 (Horaf)

UNASSIGNED:
Mexico 0/6
Panama 0/2
Colombia 0/1
Venezuela 0/1
Bolivia 0/1
Paraguay 0/1
Uruguay 0/1
Chile 0/2
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Iran 0/2
Netherlands 0/2
Portugal 0/2
Turkey 1/13

LOW PRIORITY:
Ethiopia 1/6
Rep. Spain 1/14
Czeckoslovakia 1/15
Austria 0/3
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"NEW UNITS" 7/61

Also the ART (including ART, AA and AT) for all nations is UNASSIGNED.

Anyone who like to pitch in with any of the unassigned countries is welcome to take part! Just send me a PM and I will help you get started!



- Capitan

The list above should be more or less up to date. If I forgot anything I might need to be reminded (perhaps I missed some email).&nbsp;

MichaelB has finished the final polish! Three cheers for him!

ORIGINAL: capitan

MichaelB has finished the final polish! Three cheers for him!

'polish' or 'Polish' [:D]

ORIGINAL: Greyshaft

ORIGINAL: capitan

MichaelB has finished the final polish! Three cheers for him!

'polish' or 'Polish' [:D]

He's polished off the Polish?

ORIGINAL: doctormm

ORIGINAL: Greyshaft

ORIGINAL: capitan

MichaelB has finished the final polish! Three cheers for him!

'polish' or 'Polish' [:D]

He's polished off the Polish?

Bu twho finished the Finnish?

alot of black humor[;)]