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RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:41 am
by DOCUP
I have been noticing that my US 2Es have actually been strafing and bombing while on Low Ground. I like it. I also have to say that I like the APD and AVDs. And Please God I am tired of having to listen to the Bachelor going on behind me as the boss watches it. AHHHHHHH

stupid bachelor show

yes I am telling you how I feel.
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:47 am
by Saros
It might be better to send the bombers in at 6K so they use their ground attack skill rather than the Low ground skill unless you have specifically trained them for that.
As for strafe/bomb attacks from US 2E I think only airframes designated attack bombers (The B-25s mostly?) will do that and only if they are set to attack in a certain altitude band. I can't recall off the top of my head the exact models/altitudes that will do it cause I haven't played the allied side in a long long time.
As for IJA flak I wouldn't worry about it, its pretty darn useless unless you stack truly absurd numbers of heavy 75mm/88mm/100mm tubes in one hex. The 25mm and 13mm AAMG don't really do a lot.
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:16 pm
by DOCUP
Saros thanks for your input. Please post some more.
31st May
KB Bonin Islands maybe
MKB unknown
Not much action this turn.
Tahiti
I-2 takes 2 hits by ASW. 100 mines will be laid tonite.
Timor AO
Troops are unloading from transports in Oz ports. They will be moved to stageing areas for movement to there final destinations.
China
Only the Chinese bomb at nite they destroy a Lilly.
Rangoon
Hudsons attack the AF during the day. They destroy multiple AC on the ground. In all 12 AC were destroyed during the day.
Still getting Heavy Radio traffic near the Bonins Islands. This TF is moveing SE towards Turk.
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:02 pm
by zuluhour
I'M still here, but reading both AARs, rooting for the red white and blue though!
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:29 am
by Crackaces
ORIGINAL: Saros
............As for IJA flak I wouldn't worry about it, its pretty darn useless unless you stack truly absurd numbers of heavy 75mm/88mm/100mm tubes in one hex. The 25mm and 13mm AAMG don't really do a lot.
The only thing I have seen the 25mm do well is straffing .. that has been pretty consistent that any flak will spare an airbase from a devasting straffing raid.
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:08 am
by Saros
Well the 25mm has a ceiling of 7k ft so anything 8k plus is totally immune to it. It will do a good job against strafers or divebombers as it has a good RoF and something like 50 effect rating which is really high. Most 25mm guns are restricted to the tiny Machinecannon CO's in Manchuria though although in late '42 a bunch of base forces and navy air bn's upgrade to have a few some base forces even get 8cm and 12cm DP guns which I hear can be okay-ish CD guns in a pinch but are terrible against planes for the same engine limitations that the allied 5in DP suffers from.
This limitation to 7K really means that allied bombers can fly at 8k while IJN/AAF have to be above 10K else they get torn up by 40mm bofors and the similar guns. [:(]
Anyway Docup I also read your opponents AAR so I won't comment on operational matters but I can complan extensively about the weakneesses in the Japaneese OOB [:D]
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:36 pm
by DOCUP
1st June
KB unknown
MKB IO NW coast of Oz
NW coast of Oz
MKB finds the TF carrying the East African Bde, they sink all but one ship. Got to roll with the punches I guess. I have 2 Brit CVs close by that are fighter heavy. I don't think they can take on the whole MKB. I also want to use them as fighter cover for Op Dumbo. In 8 days a US carrier will arrive at Balboa it will be sent to the IO.
Ambon
Air bombings and I see another ID is prepping for here. I need to get a move on with supplies and reinforcements.
Tahiti
Our minelayer eats a Jap fish. No mines were layed.
I think I will move ahead with the invasion of Ndeni. Maybe this will delay the reinforcement of Ambon.
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:05 pm
by DOCUP
We have 70 4E bombers at Darwin. I figure they can damage Kendri's AF pretty good. I just need to find a way to deal with the MKB. Any ideas?
North Burma
He has stopped his units from advancing north. He should of kept them going I am weak up there. The longer he waits the stronger I will get. The fleeing units from Rangoon are trying to cross a river to get into an open hex with a yellow road. Its being bombarded everday by a stronger Jap force.
Kukong
Chinese troops are being bombarded by air and land everyday. They are behind 6 forts though. He has twice the AV that I do. In 2 days I will open up the road and hex to the north so these forces can escape. 1,600 AV will be free to move north to our lines.
NorPac
Transports will pick up a Sep US IR to move it to Amachita(sp).
Ndeni
I have forces prepped for this location. I just need to get the transports to these troops and send them to Ndeni.
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:36 pm
by zuluhour
I've only had one operational fleet carrier so long, I would'ent know where to begin to deal with KB in blue water. My only recourse has been land based naval air and hords of subs.
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:20 am
by Crackaces
For me Docup .. and you can read this in the AAR .. the MKB came calling in the worse of circumstances for the MKB .. completely detected and the IJ had no clue I had 3 CV's near Baker Island .. he attacked Baker Island I damaged 2 and sunk 1 [:D]
I look for opportunites where I have patrol advantages and then engage in cat and mouse .. so far after Baker Island my opponet lives in fear ..[8D] [The fear is mutual [;)] ]
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:50 pm
by DOCUP
Question folks.
Picture below. I am trying to move my stack from Kukong. I have a unit above Kukong. The hex should be open. I set my stack to move north it says that the stack is moving to the hex but my stacks arrow is moving south. Can someone help me out here.

RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:12 pm
by Crackaces
Do a 'w' and show us the hexside ownership .. that might answer your question ..
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:13 pm
by zuluhour
Hit the "W" key and see who owns what hexside.
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:14 pm
by zuluhour
Damn your fast Aces!
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:21 pm
by DOCUP
here you go

RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:29 pm
by DOCUP
Saros I understand. But your still welcomed in here to apply your technical knowledge or whatever else you want to say. Zulu, Crackaces thanks you guys are fast. I will prob have a response or 2 before I'm done posting this.
2nd June
KB unknown
MKB NW IO off Oz coast
Timor AO
2 Japs TF coming down towards either Koepang or Dili. One of the TFs consists of 3 ships the other has 10 ships in it. Reinforcement convoy? Getting closer to the start of Op Dumbo.
Lautem
Supply is 700. Couple more runs of the APDs and we can put up some fighters and maybe bring in a big load of supply.
China
You can see the map. Still the bombers won't fly I think it must be the weather. No sweeps either.
not much this turn folks. Oh we actually sink an ak around Japan.
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:31 pm
by Alfred
You don't own the Kukong NW hexside therefore your LCU can't retreat via that hexside. They are retreating via the only available hexside to them ie the SW hexside.
You actually have to move the LCUs which are outside of Kukong into Kukong to own the NW hexside.
Alfred
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:33 pm
by DOCUP
Thanks Alfred.
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:38 pm
by zuluhour
Alfred: It appears to the TWITs that the NW hexside is both allied and Japanese contolled, Is this possible without an IJ LCU ever crossing that NW hexside?
RE: Operation Dumbo
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:39 pm
by DOCUP
Oh forgot. We swept a Jap LCU hex. 17 Oscars go down to our 5 P40E and 4 Hurri IIBs.