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The CO of the CD unit at Luganville was replaced with a full Colonel and the airbase is Level 5., still the 5 inch guns of the CD unit laid some major whoop ass on the Japs and the bombardment was remarkably ineffective. There were almost 250 aircraft at the base and only one was damaged. This had to be a disappointment for the bad guys. Oh well, tomorrow is another day. [:'(]

Anyone know if airfield level protects aircraft from bombardment damage?

Anyone know if airfield level protects aircraft from bombardment damage?

I've noticed the larger the airfield, the harder it is to damage aircraft. However, a big enough bombardment will lay some major hurt on you, particularly if the airfield is overcrowded.

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Anyone know if airfield level protects aircraft from bombardment damage?

I've noticed the larger the airfield, the harder it is to damage aircraft. However, a big enough bombardment will lay some major hurt on you, particularly if the airfield is overcrowded.

An overcrowed airfield will suffer more than a normal one. One the "nuclear" bombardments require recon to be flown the day(s) before. Every bombardment I did without recon was inefficient.

Also I am quite sure that the ships will first battle the CD guns and only if they "won" this part of the battle will pound the base. So in this case most shells were exchanged between shells and CD probably.

On a side note I don't think using DDs to bombard is a good idea. They are fairly vulnerable, probability to hit mines is higher from every ship and the extra shells fired probably have not a great effect.

God it is indeed a very impressive Catch 22 revival, looks like the genuine one [X(] [:)]

ORIGINAL: AmiralLaurent

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Anyone know if airfield level protects aircraft from bombardment damage?

I've noticed the larger the airfield, the harder it is to damage aircraft. However, a big enough bombardment will lay some major hurt on you, particularly if the airfield is overcrowded.

An overcrowed airfield will suffer more than a normal one. One the "nuclear" bombardments require recon to be flown the day(s) before. Every bombardment I did without recon was inefficient.

Also I am quite sure that the ships will first battle the CD guns and only if they "won" this part of the battle will pound the base. So in this case most shells were exchanged between shells and CD probably.

On a side note I don't think using DDs to bombard is a good idea. They are fairly vulnerable, probability to hit mines is higher from every ship and the extra shells fired probably have not a great effect.

Admiral Laurent;

What you say about engaging the CD guns first makes a lot of sense. Perhaps it was a cautious Japanese commander who retired after seeing his shiney DD get savaged.

A related question. Does fortification level affect the vulnerability of airfields, AA guns and CD guns to air and naval bombardment, or is it just for land combat?

P.S....and thanks Fishbed (NATO designation)

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A related question. Does fortification level affect the vulnerability of airfields, AA guns and CD guns to air and naval bombardment, or is it just for land combat?

First, as a caveat, i've never really conducted controlled tests, however, it does seem to me that the forts DO help in these matters. I always find myself breathing a sigh of relief once a fort level goes up, as i seem to experience fewer losses.

Fewer losses at your airfields, too?

That is not so clear. At best there is a minimal effect.

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You're demented, Mandrake...[:D][:D][:D]

Dementia is merely a cultural construct, unless you are Al Capone, of course.

This is interesting. FDR is always thinking politically..eg., tempting the Japanese with US cruisers in the PI before the War, extra troops for Australia...but his commanders gently box him about the ears to bring him back to military or logistical reality..(Starke talking him out of risking cruisers in the PI and here, Marshall reminding him of the "Europe first" strategy, which was partly political to start with)

Here FDR is calling for 100,000 US troops and 1,000 US planes in Australia. That doesn't have a symbolic component to it, does it? Marshall counters that it will delay a Sept '43 cross-channel invasion [:D]

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Here is FDR's 5/1/42 memorandum. He picks a figure of 1,000 planes (perhaps because 1,000 dollars was the original estimate for the annual cost to the Treasury for Social Security[8|]..[:-])) then he instructs the Joint Chiefs to decide on the types.

Is this any way to run a war? Does the concept of counting troops in one geographic location as part of the political process remind anyone of 2005?