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But, the big problem now...and I haven't noticed it before... is that the swamps have become hard to distinguish from the clear hexes.

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

Last in the series.

One of the goals for changing the bitmap for Forest terrain was to differentitate them from Swamp. This is one of the hardest tests for that.

The Forest still looks quite different from Jungle. In the future I'll try to include a screen shot which includes both of them - when I have something else to show.

The resource icons still have the number 1 on them. I'll get the artist to remove it from both the oil and non-oil resources. But that got me to thinking, ....

How about removing the numbers completely and just placing multiple copies of the icon in a hex that has more than 1? 2, 3, and even 4 resource icons would be easy to fit into a hex - with no overlap. That's because the hexes that have multiple resources have little if anything else in them. Wadda ya think?

Hindenburg up in flames! For Patrice.

Here are the darker rivers with darker clear and forest terrain. I believe the difference between the forest and swamp is more noticeable now.

Here are the lakes and rivers with darker blue outlines. I have modified the coastal hexes so they match.

Notice the new iced-in port symbols for both minor and major ports.

Metz is still misplaced. I have only messed around with it about 20 times. I have put in the ability to position icons at 25 different points within a hex. It is letting me improve the placements of some icons, but mainly helps with the rail lines.

Last in the series.

One of the goals for changing the bitmap for Forest terrain was to differentitate them from Swamp. This is one of the hardest tests for that.

The resource icons still have the number 1 on them. I'll get the artist to remove it from both the oil and non-oil resources. But that got me to thinking, ....

How about removing the numbers completely and just placing multiple copies of the icon in a hex that has more than 1? 2, 3, and even 4 resource icons would be easy to fit into a hex - with no overlap. That's because the hexes that have multiple resources have little if anything else in them. Wadda ya think?

I think the resource thing might work. How about this.. use the current icon for a single resource, and a slightly larger one for multiples and put a number under it. Single resources have no number, only multiple.

ORIGINAL: stretch

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Last in the series.

One of the goals for changing the bitmap for Forest terrain was to differentitate them from Swamp. This is one of the hardest tests for that.

The Forest still looks quite different from Jungle. In the future I'll try to include a screen shot which includes both of them - when I have something else to show.

The resource icons still have the number 1 on them. I'll get the artist to remove it from both the oil and non-oil resources. But that got me to thinking, ....

How about removing the numbers completely and just placing multiple copies of the icon in a hex that has more than 1? 2, 3, and even 4 resource icons would be easy to fit into a hex - with no overlap. That's because the hexes that have multiple resources have little if anything else in them. Wadda ya think?

I have no trouble separating the swamp from the forest. But I have 20-20 eyes and no color blindness, so I am easy to please.

I think the resource thing might work. How about this.. use the current icon for a single resource, and a slightly larger one for multiples and put a number under it. Single resources have no number, only multiple.

I agree, and I refrained from proposing that, thinking you would say no because the hexes would become cluttered. Anyway, I doubt there are hexes with more than 3 resources in them. I think 3 is the maximum.

ORIGINAL: c92nichj

I agree, and I refrained from proposing that, thinking you would say no because the hexes would become cluttered. Anyway, I doubt there are hexes with more than 3 resources in them. I think 3 is the maximum.

3 is not really the maximum as Baku has 4 oil resources,(Venezuela has 6 in the same hex on the the american map but that map resolution is a bt extreme)

ORIGINAL: Incy

I think the swamps could still need some reworking. It's not obvious from the graphics that it is a swamp hex. I would suggest changing the blue in the swamp hexes into something more similar to the blue of rivers & lakes. I.e. the same green color, but stronger blue and more contrast, that way one gets the idea that water is present.

Incy

ORIGINAL: pak19652002

Thanks for the effort. This is not a make-or-break problem but could be easily solved by making one or the other darker or lighter. Differential shading would set up a contrast between the two hex types. Messing around with colors is probably a lost cause, for all the well-publicized reasons. Maybe just make the clear hexes a little lighter and/or the swamp a little darker (seems appropriate, no?) and it should be fine.

Peter

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets


I like this idea of the number outside of the icon; but would leave the size of the icon the same at all times.

1 - It means the numbers do not interfere with the graphics of the icon.

2 - There is plenty of room for adding an external little square with a number in it.

3 - I can use high contrast colors for the number and background without messing up the icon graphics

4 - It is the same solution as is used for stacked units in a hex.

5 - I can use true type fonts, which will improve the legibility of the number at different levels of zoom.

Single quantities of resources would not have an external box (the same as for the units). I would place the box above the icon (the same as for the units). I would probably use distintive/dramatic colors: red on white for regular resources, and red on a light tan for oil resources.

This does not solve my problem of needing two icons when a multiple oil resource hex gets damaged. But I had that problem anyway - this doesn't introduce any new ones.

Right now, I am strongly inclined (picture of person on a steep slope) to go with this representation of multiple resources in a hex. If you do not like the idea, this is the best time to let me know.

ORIGINAL: dhatchen

I like the changes you have shown with these screen shots, specifically:

1 - Iced in ports, great.
2 - Forest, good contrast with swamp now.
3 - Your earlier change to clear terrain, super.
4 - Darker blue outline on rivers, etc, too garish.
5 - The square resource is fine but does not stand out enough, backgound too dark. They are lost in the mountains in Spain (post# 511).
6 - I don't know if you are changing the factory icons yet, but they are poor and inconsistent. In the screen shot in post #510, the factory stack in Leipzig is crooked but one hex to the east the stack is straight. This particular problem is not evident in posts 508 and 509.

Thanks to pak19652002 for keeping us informed of the useability of these maps for colour-blind people. There are a couple of different types of colour-blindness and it would be good if all kinds were covered. Thanks Steve for being open to this. It would be terrible if anyone was excluded for such a thing.

Dan