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Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:56 am
by shunwick
Now that normal service has been resumed...
Results...
Euro 2024
France 1 Belgium 0
Portugal 0 Slovenia 0 AET 3-0 Pen
Copa America 2024
USA 0 Uruguay 1
Bolivia 1 Panama 3
France and Belgium produced a bore fest on an Epic scale. The misfiring French continue to misfire. The Portugal-Slovenia match was certainly the most watchable of the day. All the headlines were Ronaldo crying after missing a penalty. If I was Diogo Costa I would be slightly miffed.
USA crash out of the Copa America. Can't even make it out of the group stage on home soil. The American soul doesn't even care. That is the real tragedy. Congratulations to Panama for making it to the quarter finals.
Coming up...
Euro 2024
Romania vs Netherlands
Austria vs Turkey.
Copa America 2024
Costa Rica vs Paraguay
Brazil vs Colombia
Games to watch... Austria vs Turkey and Brazil vs Colombia should both be very watchable.
Best wishes,
Steve
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:04 am
by RFalvo69
shunwick wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:12 pm
warspite1 wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:46 pm
gamer78 wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:21 pm
There is conspiracy theories about Georgia.
warspite1
Erm, who seriously believes such rubbish?
He has been consistently trying to inject politics into the discussion about football.
To clarify, whit "politics" I meant internal frictions in the Italian soccer scene. The current President, Gabriele Gravina, is flatly incompetent. The former coach, Mancini, for all his faults, was still widely supported. He left the job 10 months ago out of the blue and with no explanations. What happened?
The current coach, Prandelli, was widely considered a good replacement. However, he had only 10 months to prepare the team (and, ironically, since we were automatically qualified, Italy didn't play any official matches until the Euro). So, Spalletti had a steep road in front of him.
All of the above, however, doesn't answer a simple question: why Italy didn't play? Again, we didn't play badly, we flatly didn't play. The best opportunity Italy had against the Swiss was when a Swiss defender sent the ball against his goalpost - so even this opportunity was created by the Swiss.
Some choices about the players for Euro 2024 were really dubious. Some good players were not considered because "They play too much with the Playstation" (I'm not joking). Then, why to bring players who just returned to play after a long suspension for illegal betting?
As I said, I'm not into conspiracy theories, but there are many hints that something is wrong behind the scenes.
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 3:26 pm
by warspite1
So what is going to happen in the Euros today - Part 4?
Can I maintain my 100% round of 16 forecasting - or will I muck up as usual? I know which one my money is on.....
Romania vs Netherlands
This is a really tough one to call (or am I making it so because I think there has to be a surprise at some point?).
Netherlands should win this, but they haven't been wholly convincing so far, while Romania have been something of a surprise given their recent years in the footballing wilderness.
I think the Dutch may just have a little too much in the firepower dept. so I am going for a win for the Netherlands by the odd-goal.
Austria vs Turkey
Really looking forward to this. The Austrians are easy on the eye and, as I've said previously, I believe that they or the Swiss will provide the finalist from this side of the draw.
I expect that Turkey will give a good account of themselves but again, the Austrians to win by the odd-goal.
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 4:57 pm
by gamer78
Well apart from Dragusin stopper, I didn't see Romania well. There is one 'hagi' as the huge name but.. Netherlands very domininant. They seem to increase gear about tempo.
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 6:24 pm
by warspite1
Full time
Romania 0-3 Netherlands
Well that was the most one sided match this tournament so far. 3-0 to the Dutch, but should have been double figures. The Netherlands have well and truly found their mojo.
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:51 pm
by gamer78
Montella still going for no striker 4-6-0 tactics. Lets see how it goes in 2nd half. So far Austrian attacks were non-lethal.
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:17 pm
by ElvisJJonesRambo
How is the grass kept so clean, or is it artificial turf in this Turkey/Austria game?
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:19 pm
by ElvisJJonesRambo
BOOM !!!!
Huge goal by Turks!
Austria had a frenzy of chances, then we know how it goes, get burned on defense.
Took the Turks Live-In game -125 up 1.
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:58 pm
by warspite1
Full time
Austria 1-2 Turkey
Rats - I really thought Austria stood a chance of the final - over to you Switzerland, the route to the final is now clear for you……
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:12 pm
by shunwick
RFalvo69 wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:04 am
shunwick wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:12 pm
warspite1 wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:46 pm
warspite1
Erm, who seriously believes such rubbish?
He has been consistently trying to inject politics into the discussion about football.
To clarify, whit "politics" I meant internal frictions in the Italian soccer scene. The current President, Gabriele Gravina, is flatly incompetent. The former coach, Mancini, for all his faults, was still widely supported. He left the job 10 months ago out of the blue and with no explanations. What happened?
The current coach, Prandelli, was widely considered a good replacement. However, he had only 10 months to prepare the team (and, ironically, since we were automatically qualified, Italy didn't play any official matches until the Euro). So, Spalletti had a steep road in front of him.
All of the above, however, doesn't answer a simple question: why Italy didn't play? Again, we didn't play badly, we flatly didn't play. The best opportunity Italy had against the Swiss was when a Swiss defender sent the ball against his goalpost - so even this opportunity was created by the Swiss.
Some choices about the players for Euro 2024 were really dubious. Some good players were not considered because "They play too much with the Playstation" (I'm not joking). Then, why to bring players who just returned to play after a long suspension for illegal betting?
As I said, I'm not into conspiracy theories, but there are many hints that something is wrong behind the scenes.
What has been the reaction to the Swiss game in Italy from the media and fans?
Best wishes,
Steve
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:16 pm
by shunwick
warspite1 wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:58 pm
Full time
Austria 1-2 Turkey
Rats - I really thought Austria stood a chance of the final - over to you Switzerland, the route to the final is now clear for you……
Many people pegged Austria as dark horses. A hugely enjoyable game to watch very happy for Turkish fans. Big party in Berlin tonight.
Disappointed with Romania although the Netherlands are starting to cook.
Best wishes,
Steve
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:56 pm
by RFalvo69
shunwick wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:12 pm
What has been the reaction to the Swiss game in Italy from the media and fans?
Best wishes,
Steve
Basically the same: "YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED! ONE OF THE WORST DEFEATS EVER! EVERYONE MUST GO HOME!!"
(Except our goalkeeper, Donnarumma, who blocked penalties, clear scoring opportunities for the other teams... he did miracles).
That no one is going home - at least not Prandelli and the heads of the Italian Football - is not making the public opinion happier.
I honestly was not surprised by what happened against Switzerland. Italy stopped playing after the second goal vs. Albania and never restarted. We had a lucky (and totally undeserved) goal against Croatia, but the game vs. the Swiss was the straight continuation of what started at the very beginning.
Now there will be of course the "New Cycle" and so on. For once, I have no clue about what to do. Donnarumma is the last champion left in Italy. I can't name a single current Italian player worth of the National Team.
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:27 am
by shunwick
Results...
Copa America 2024
Costa Rica 2 Paraguay 1
Brazil 1 Colombia 1
So, all the quarter-final pairings in both competitions are now known...
Euro 2024
Spain vs Germany
Portugal vs France
Netherlands vs Turkey
England vs Switzerland
Copa America 2024
Argentina vs Ecuador
Colombia vs Panama
Venezuela vs Canada
Uruguay vs Brazil
Today is rest day in both competitions.
Best wishes,
Steve
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:34 pm
by shunwick
Coming up...
Copa America 2024
Quarter-Final
Argentina vs Ecuador
Argentina are the overwhelming favourites for this game. An upset is unlikely but stranger things have happened.
Best wishes,
Steve
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:05 am
by shunwick
Results....
Copa America 2024
Quarter-Final
Argentina 1 Ecuador 1 FT no ET but 4-2 on penalties.
Ecuador pushed them all the way to penalties. Well done Ecuador.
Coming up...
Euro 2024
Quarter-Finals
Spain vs Germany
Portugal vs France
Best wishes,
Steve
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:55 pm
by shunwick
Euro 2024
Quarter-Final
Spain 2 Germany 1 AET
A 50/50 and very watchable game, Spain book their place in the Semi-Finals.
Best wishes,
Steve
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:46 pm
by ElvisJJonesRambo
finally figured this out.
Bet under 1.5 goals at half on this France game.
easy peasy
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:53 pm
by shunwick
Results...
Euro 2024
Quarter-Finals
Spain 2 Germany 1 AET
France 0 Portugal 0 AET 5-3 on Penalties.
The misfiring French are still misfiring. A fairly dour game with woeful finishing from both teams, the funniest moment of the game was the Ronaldo shot 4 yards from directly in front of the goal that is now in low earth orbit....
Coming up...
Copa America 2024
Quarter-Finals
Colombia vs Panama
Venezuela vs Canada
Euro 2024
Quarter Finals
England vs Switzerland
Netherlands vs Turkey
Best wishes,
Steve
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:31 pm
by gamer78
Yes C. Ronaldo penalty also does need a rule change in UEFA. Goalkeeper already handicaped. Pause and move is not fair. Both games were poor about football.
Demiral's (stoper) ban for 2 games understandable only if Chetniks sign were also not allowed. Tadic playing in Fenerbahce and I remember Tosic in Besiktas did that in the past. But football is not about politics.
Re: All things Football (soccer) related
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:01 am
by warspite1
gamer78 wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:31 pm
Yes C. Ronaldo penalty also does need a rule change in UEFA. Goalkeeper already handicaped. Pause and move is not fair.
warspite1
I thought they outlawed this nonsense a few years ago - but it seems not……. The only penalty I’ve seen disallowed was by Son for Spurs - typical
