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just what I've been saying for years, IJN experience edge is so drastically influencing those night engagements that they rule the Sea in 41 and they still do so in 45. Realism is thrown overboard here, it was never there and won't ever be because radar controlled firing would have torn the IJN to pieces at five times the range already the battle started off.

The technical advantage the Allied had from mid war on - aka radar controlled gunnery - comes never into play in a way you can even match the Japanese, let alone become as superior as the USN was in real life. And yes, I think this is only for game balance.

There is no way to train ships above that hardcoded level around 50 just from moving around, there is no good modelling of radar controlled gunnery (in fact, a beta patch changed the beyond visibility range firing into "fire at sight only" - I don't know what happened behind the scene though so I may misunderstand this) and so the IJN just stays in super hero state while the USN stays in dumb ass mode (except those ships that ARRIVE late war with decent exp).

Funnily enough it was BB Washington in this engagement, we all know what real life Washington did to Kirishima in 1942 , here in the game it is Washington in 1944 that gets blown out of the water. While SoDak was hit several times at what 4 or 5k yards, Washington was firing from over 10k yards and landed dozens of hits on Kirishima in real life. In the game I think I could accept the IJN performing better than the USN when being in visual range but the flaw starts right here, the IJN should be hard pushed to even get into visual range without being heavily hit already by excellently working radar controlled gunnery of the USN ships.

Maybe the code prevents a reasonable change to bring this closer (not close but closer) to reality or it is done to keep the IJN competitive throughout the war, I don't know. But noone of all those people on this excellent forum with so many experts on this matter around can really think it would be realistic to see those massacres all the time. Yes, some lucky die rolls also result in a USN victory now and then, but the majority of engagements just sees clear IJN victories. And so the game lets vintage WWI IJN BBs being superior to modern USN BBs in even at the end of the war. Oh well, would it happen to me, I could tell myselve once more to not engage the IJN with my ships.

Well, just from looking at the power of Rader's CD guns, the issue is how GJ is going to resupply his troops as supply ships will have to face the guns just like the initial invasion force did.

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Something very strange happaned...ALL the leaders of the LCUs that have landed have been replaced by leaders with lower rank and terrible stats...what the hell happened!??!
I may understand that some of them died during the landings...but ALL of them!?!?!??! Com'on....

Just an example...everywhere is like that[&:][&:][&:]

ORIGINAL: castor troy

ORIGINAL: witpqs

How much experience do ships gain from shore bombardments?

from nothning to not much. After the usual ongoing defeats by inferior or equal IJN forces I tried to find a way to increase night (day is no problem anyway) experience of my ships and thought about naval bombardments. Result was frustrating. The only way to get exp up is engaging enemy ships and this means your ships will die before they will ever reach IJN levels to be competitive.

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

My experience with invaisons has been that CD guns at a particular base or on a particular island become less effective with time. Thus, the same shore guns that ripped into the invasion fleet on D-Day are not quite as effective on D+1 and are considerably less effective or totally ineffective after several days.

That's not always the case - sometimes the guns retain some pop well into the future, but even in those cases the pop was considerably diminished over D-Day.

This makes sense, though. It's as if the invasion beachhead has been secured and the perimeter expanded, so that shipping isn't molested as much as it comes into shore.

Extrapolating my experience to this game is challenging since the number of CD guns is much greater than normal. Still, I wouldn't expect nearly the kind of damage that occurred on D-Day from D+1 forward.

It may well be, however, that the file execution will differ.