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ORIGINAL: abj9562
To established players the screens are a pain in the neck. To a new player they are very helpful. They slow down the game and compartmentalize the flow of information. Perhaps the solution is to have a config file to set the message flow a player wants. Perhaps 3 options on each message type. On, Off, and Time Delay (where in an ideal world you could set the amount of time delay). This way as a player progresses and becomes more expieranced he could modify the message settings to suit. Perhaps just a simple option of beginner, advanced, and delay message settings. That would even simplify it down to a single option setting and not one for each and every message. Personally I prefer the complete message settings capability. Oh well just my 2 cents.

ORIGINAL: Norden
Question regarding borders.
It looks like borderlines remain, even after conquest of the country, is that correct?

If so, maybe they can be toned down, so they are still known, but no longer apply.

Norden

ORIGINAL: abj9562

Well what about dynamic national borders that redraw themselves after conquest occurs. The counquered nation border could be toned down wiith smaller subdued borders showing both the old and the new.

ORIGINAL: abj9562
Well what about dynamic national borders that redraw themselves after conquest occurs. The counquered nation border could be toned down wiith smaller subdued borders showing both the old and the new.

ORIGINAL: Flanker Leader

i agree with mr OKeets that on the main map adjusting borders would be absolutly hell to program and get to work properly. however on the strategic map it would be nice if, say you were any axis country, you could have all the areas/hexes that were in full axis possesion to be hi-lited (or have the non controlled land areas darkened) and perhaps have contested areas (like a half conquored country) to be a "medium" colour or something of the like - it might be handy to see where there are problems at a quick glance, especially the SZ's. unoccupied SZ's could remain hi-lited/undarkened since they pose no threat, enemy SZ's would be dark, and SZ's with both sides occupiying it would be the medium colour. just throwing it out - this could be hell to program also! i am also assuming that you can click on the strategic map to quickly go to that area on the main map - this may not be the case...

I never liked that at all. Right now, we've got the red country borders, the blue rivers, and the white alpine hexsides - that's enough I believe (and very patriotic).

ORIGINAL: Froonp

I never liked that at all. Right now, we've got the red country borders, the blue rivers, and the white alpine hexsides - that's enough I believe (and very patriotic).

I think that the weather zone borderline should still be drawn on the map.
It was in green in CWiF, and the same width as the borders and the rivers, so when you had both or all three on a single hexside you weren't always sure there was a river.
I'm sure that the weather borderlines could be shown on the MWiF map, if only the Borders were 1-2 more pixel in width, and if the weather borderline was 1-2 pixel less in width, and it was drawn above the national Borders.
Moreover, the Weathere borderline could appear as on the WiF FE map, that is a dotted light blue line.

Lastly, I think this is a must because even if a toggle can make appear a symbol in each hex to show which Weather zone it is in, it is ugly to have them all displayed all the time so they end up toggled off. And it is important for the player to have this line, as a reminder of why the things are the way they are. For example, I often was bothered in Poland because suddenly a unit could not enter a hexe I wanted to enter, only to discover that it was in another weather zone with a worse weather. Sometimes Weather zones are so meshed one within the others that thje separating line is not obvious nor a straight line.

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

Right now, we've got the red country borders, the blue rivers, and the white alpine hexsides - that's enough I believe (and very patriotic).

ORIGINAL: Froonp

I never liked that at all. Right now, we've got the red country borders, the blue rivers, and the white alpine hexsides - that's enough I believe (and very patriotic).

I think that the weather zone borderline should still be drawn on the map.
It was in green in CWiF, and the same width as the borders and the rivers, so when you had both or all three on a single hexside you weren't always sure there was a river.
I'm sure that the weather borderlines could be shown on the MWiF map, if only the Borders were 1-2 more pixel in width, and if the weather borderline was 1-2 pixel less in width, and it was drawn above the national Borders.
Moreover, the Weathere borderline could appear as on the WiF FE map, that is a dotted light blue line.

Lastly, I think this is a must because even if a toggle can make appear a symbol in each hex to show which Weather zone it is in, it is ugly to have them all displayed all the time so they end up toggled off. And it is important for the player to have this line, as a reminder of why the things are the way they are. For example, I often was bothered in Poland because suddenly a unit could not enter a hexe I wanted to enter, only to discover that it was in another weather zone with a worse weather. Sometimes Weather zones are so meshed one within the others that thje separating line is not obvious nor a straight line.

ORIGINAL: abj9562

I downloaded some weather map cards from one of the fan sites lined by either Patrice's or ADG's links and the weather cards are awesome for hex and counter version. I wonder if a floating card (message box with nice graphic skin of the weather) in the upper right corner activated (turned on or off) by toggle could easily show the weather for whatever hex the cursor is over? That is if you move the cursor into a new weather zone the card is redrawn with a new skin depicting the weather in the active zone.

ORIGINAL: abj9562

Well what about dynamic national borders that redraw themselves after conquest occurs. The counquered nation border could be toned down wiith smaller subdued borders showing both the old and the new.

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

What Patrice and Lars are talking about is something additional for weather zones, that is always present on the map (though I will make it a separate toggle too). The goal here is to have something visual that doesn't interfere with other information in the hex - hence the solution of using the hexsides to show demarkation lines rather than labelling each hex. I agree with Lars and Patrice that this is essential.

ORIGINAL: abj9562

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
What Patrice and Lars are talking about is something additional for weather zones, that is always present on the map (though I will make it a separate toggle too). The goal here is to have something visual that doesn't interfere with other information in the hex - hence the solution of using the hexsides to show demarkation lines rather than labelling each hex. I agree with Lars and Patrice that this is essential.

Sorry about that I guess I just misunderstood the entire conversation. I was under the impression the idea was to show consistantly the weather in each zone at a glance. However I do understand it is hard in some hexes to see the weather zone it belongs to when counters are covering the map.