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[font="times new roman"] Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad ran out of Tacoma - along the west side of Hood Canal and along the south coast of Strait of Juan de Fuca, but stopping short of Neah Bay - at Port Angles on the map?[/align]  [/align] Another line ran from Tacoma to the ports of Grays Harbor - Cosmopolis/Aberdeen/Hoquim[/align]  [/align] Is Bremerton and it's Naval Ship Yard included in Seattle / Tacoma? Bremerton is located in the hex due east of Seattle. It also had a war time airport - with two dozen revetments that a future road project I am involved with will be wiping out their foot prints. Shelton Airfield would be located in the same hex even though it is located on the west side of Hoods Canal.[/align]  [/align] Ports of Grays Harbor county - due west of Tacoma on the map.  My Father-in law in the 41st Infantry Division - 205th Field Artillery was sent there after Pearl Harbor to guard the coast.[/align]  [/align] A railroad line ran from Portland to Astoria and out to Fort Stevens.[/align]  [/align] I can see Vancouver Barracks and its airfields Pearson and Evergreen being absorbed into Portland even though they are located north of the Columbia River.[/align][/font][font="times new roman"][/font] [font="times new roman"][/font] 

Portland/Vancouver are combined.  There are several ships that come out of the Kaiser Shipyards in Vancouver that show up in the Portland hex.

Some rail lines might have been missed.  I did go over the west coast map fairly well since I've lived on it my whole life, it's a bit of interest for me.  I used to drive past the base in San Luis Obispo daily when I was in school.  It's a National Guard base now, though parts of it are abandoned.

Bill

ORIGINAL: Heeward

[font="times new roman"] Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad ran out of Tacoma - along the west side of Hood Canal and along the south coast of Strait of Juan de Fuca, but stopping short of Neah Bay - at Port Angles on the map?[/align]  [/align] Another line ran from Tacoma to the ports of Grays Harbor - Cosmopolis/Aberdeen/Hoquim[/align]  [/align] Is Bremerton and it's Naval Ship Yard included in Seattle / Tacoma? Bremerton is located in the hex due east of Seattle. It also had a war time airport - with two dozen revetments that a future road project I am involved with will be wiping out their foot prints. Shelton Airfield would be located in the same hex even though it is located on the west side of Hoods Canal.[/align]  [/align] Ports of Grays Harbor county - due west of Tacoma on the map.  My Father-in law in the 41st Infantry Division - 205th Field Artillery was sent there after Pearl Harbor to guard the coast.[/align]  [/align] A railroad line ran from Portland to Astoria and out to Fort Stevens.[/align]  [/align] I can see Vancouver Barracks and its airfields Pearson and Evergreen being absorbed into Portland even though they are located north of the Columbia River.[/align][/font][font="times new roman"][/font] [font="times new roman"][/font] 

AB,

Are you going to include Wooloomanata ??

It was used by the RAAF to provide 79 Sqn with some bush training before being sent north, as such it was possible to use it for training of other fighter squadrons.

I used to live in that part of the world too, and I think it's a lovely rendition. It's neat that we can clearly discern the shape of San Francisco Bay. (I don't remember whether one could discern it in stock, but if so, I never noticed it.) Nice to see Napa Valley too. I really love the farmland-style graphic you're using in the valley, not to mention the clear, bright mountains. Heck, even the desert looks great.

I also wondered about Bremerton, but I assumed Bremerton was part of the Seattle hex, which is reasonable. I assume some bases are identified only by mouseovers? Is that Bellingham east of Victoria? And Long Beach next to Los Angeles?

I know it's far too late to be asking this, but will there be any option to see oil/resources/factories/yards on the map, the way Subchaser's map does it? Not a big deal -- just one of those "nice to have" things. Something that even *I* could mod.

Anyway, kudos to Andrew. I can't even begin to imagine how much work went into this.

I still live in that {this} part of the world.  It was great to see Sacramento {where I live} on the map.  Looks like Coos Bay is also on the map.  Beautiful map.  I am now officially salivating at the upcoming game to end all games.

Yes, I left Bremerton as part of Seattle, although technically it could be made a separate base in the hex just West of Seattle.

Long beach is in the LA hex. The base to the "East" (map-wise) of LA is Santa Ana.

The base to the "East" of Victoria is Oak Harbor.

Even though there are more bases in AE, there are still fewer on the US West coast than compared to other parts of the map. If placed here using the same criteria, there would be bases all over the US West coast. In game terms there is no need to add so many in this part of the map.

Andrew

I lived in Oak Harbor Washington for a while 30 years ago.  I'm curious what role it played during the war.  Is Fort Casey represented?

ORIGINAL: dhuffjr2

I lived in Oak Harbor Washington for a while 30 years ago.  I'm curious what role it played during the war.  Is Fort Casey represented?

Two main roles in AE: 1. The Puget Sound Defenses (a fixed unit representing the coastal defense forts in the area, including Ft. Casey) is based here. It eventually gets a couple of 16" guns. Later in the war, several naval patrol/bomber aircraft squadrons form up at Oak Harbor.

ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

ORIGINAL: Alikchi

The new bases and terrain.. so pretty! Makes me want to land a couple divisions in San Fran. [:D]

Easier to do now than in WitP.

. . . and easier to repel, too. In AE the US will have a solid chunk of forces that were camped on the West Coast while they trained for service in Europe. At one time or another these include 3 Armored Divisions that trained around San Luis Obispo, and 4 infantry divisions that trained near Corvallis. These forces are on-map (but restricted to the West Coast) until the date they were historically deployed to the ETO. In addition to these standing West Coast forces, the US gets another four divisions worth of invasion reinforcements (and Patton as a Corps Commander) if the Japanese are foolish enough to invade.

Bring it on, Tojo!

ORIGINAL: JeffK


AB,

Are you going to include Wooloomanata ??

It was used by the RAAF to provide 79 Sqn with some bush training before being sent north, as such it was possible to use it for training of other fighter squadrons.

I don't have the game open at the moment, but since Andrew is Australian, he put extra attention to Australia. There are more bases there than stock, quite a few in the south and more in the bush.

Bill

Very detailed map work, especially considering the scale.
I see Route 66 (finally), and some new NATO LCU counters....

ORIGINAL: wdolson

ORIGINAL: JeffK


AB,

Are you going to include Wooloomanata ??

It was used by the RAAF to provide 79 Sqn with some bush training before being sent north, as such it was possible to use it for training of other fighter squadrons.

I don't have the game open at the moment, but since Andrew is Australian, he put extra attention to Australia. There are more bases there than stock, quite a few in the south and more in the bush.

Bill

An Aussie I may be, but I had to look up "Wooloomanata"! And it isn't far from where I live. It is in the Geelong hex on the AE map.

Andrew

Sorry for making you work Andrew,

I'm getting sick of everyone asking for their own little additions to the map.

Wooloomanata is really a large farm on the western slopes of the You Yangs which are between Melbourne & geelong. It was owned by the Fairbain family, Minister for Air in the 40's.

Now they have links with Catriona Rowntree (one of the boys is married to her) and run sheep on the land at work to keep the grass down.

Now, back to the real world........

Andrew,

Have you made Geelong the capital of Australia? You do deserve it!

[:)][:D][:'(]

ORIGINAL: Heeward

[font="times new roman"] Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad ran out of Tacoma - along the west side of Hood Canal and along the south coast of Strait of Juan de Fuca, but stopping short of Neah Bay - at Port Angles on the map?[/align] [/align] Another line ran from Tacoma to the ports of Grays Harbor - Cosmopolis/Aberdeen/Hoquim[/align] [/align] Is Bremerton and it's Naval Ship Yard included in Seattle / Tacoma? Bremerton is located in the hex due east of Seattle. It also had a war time airport - with two dozen revetments that a future road project I am involved with will be wiping out their foot prints. Shelton Airfield would be located in the same hex even though it is located on the west side of Hoods Canal.[/align] [/align] Ports of Grays Harbor county - due west of Tacoma on the map. My Father-in law in the 41st Infantry Division - 205th Field Artillery was sent there after Pearl Harbor to guard the coast.[/align] [/align] A railroad line ran from Portland to Astoria and out to Fort Stevens.[/align] [/align] I can see Vancouver Barracks and its airfields Pearson and Evergreen being absorbed into Portland even though they are located north of the Columbia River.[/align][/font][font="times new roman"][/font] [font="times new roman"][/font]

This is not correct. There is/was a rail line, part of the Milwaukee Road, that ran between Port Townsend and Port Angeles - but this rail line was never physically connected to the rest of the Milwaukee Road. Instead they ran barges from Seattle to Port Townsend. There was no railroad along the western shore of Hood Canal.

http://www.mrcd.org/olympic_peninsula_14th_sub.html


My guess when seeing this map was that the base to the east of Victoria was actually Port Townsend, but Oak Harbor is just as good. The coastal fortifications were in both of those locations, and the Naval Air Station was built up in the Oak Harbor area - so I can live with that.

ORIGINAL: witpqs

Andrew,

Have you made Geelong the capital of Australia? You do deserve it!

[:)][:D][:'(]

Oh don't encourage him. Geelong wins ONE grand final and you never hear the end of it.... [:D]

I stand corrected - The line must have termiated at or near Bremerton, and been confused with the many private lumber company rail road lines.
Sadly the Clallam County portion of the CM&StP RR - Seattle and North Coast is no more and being turned into the Olympic Discovery Trail - your gas tax dollars at work.
 
 

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay
This is not correct. There is/was a rail line, part of the Milwaukee Road, that ran between Port Townsend and Port Angeles - but this rail line was never physically connected to the rest of the Milwaukee Road. Instead they ran barges from Seattle to Port Townsend. There was no railroad along the western shore of Hood Canal.

http://www.mrcd.org/olympic_peninsula_14th_sub.html


My guess when seeing this map was that the base to the east of Victoria was actually Port Townsend, but Oak Harbor is just as good. The coastal fortifications were in both of those locations, and the Naval Air Station was built up in the Oak Harbor area - so I can live with that.

Technically, Oak Harbor is on the East side of the Sound, but I believe the hex also includes Port Townsend and Port Angeles.

Bill

ORIGINAL: Reg

Oh don't encourage him. Geelong wins ONE grand final and you never hear the end of it.... [:D]

No need to worry, I live in Melbourne, not Geelong.

Andrew

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay
My guess when seeing this map was that the base to the east of Victoria was actually Port Townsend, but Oak Harbor is just as good. The coastal fortifications were in both of those locations, and the Naval Air Station was built up in the Oak Harbor area - so I can live with that.

Yes, 'twas put there because of the Naval Air Station.

I can tell you, doing the North American part of the map when so many of the players are from there, and I am not, makes it tricky. This is a tough crowd!

Andrew