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RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:35 pm
by undercovergeek
ok, here are the major classes - cv, bb, ca, cl, dd in glorious technicolour - had a lot of fun doing this - cant wait to see the AE stuff

RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:33 pm
by Dixie
ORIGINAL: undercovergeek
any sneaky pics?
has the format changed at all, still 200 x 60, ship side and a background? or is it bigger and we're in for a detail extravaganza?!!
There are a few pics out there [:)] IIRC the art sizes are unchanged.
EDIT: Something I've been working on. There may be some sort of prize for the first person to i.d. her correctly*
*But probably not

RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:42 pm
by JWE
ORIGINAL: undercovergeek
any sneaky pics?
has the format changed at all, still 200 x 60, ship side and a background? or is it bigger and we're in for a detail extravaganza?!!
Oh, lots of sneaky pics. No format change, SAIEW.
Ok, the whole thing behind a “standard” art set was to satisfy Matrix requirements for uniform scaling, uniform background, uniform intensity and saturation, uniform contrast, etc. That’s it, although Matrix did request that we not utilize dazzle cammo, because it hides detail that matrix thinks is important to the general player community.
We (the artists) agree, although we have found certain colorization vectors acceptable to Matrix which are used in AE. We have also developed about a gazillion MB of ‘after market’ pics that just drop in.
Only thing that makes it “standard” is scaling and background. Be glad to send ya the scale factors and a panel of 12 different backgrounds all with the same color/intensity/contrast values.
Anyhow, here’s ours.

RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:13 pm
by undercovergeek
you know, for a few seconds there i thought - hang on, that looks the same as mine!!!
cool pics thanks for all help
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:56 pm
by undercovergeek
out of interest, without much experience in the field - if you were to correctly scale all ships and obviously had the biggest pic for CVs just how small would a DD be next to the CV?
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:25 pm
by DuckofTindalos
Well, if you look at the pics John posted, you have your answer.
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:42 pm
by Dixie
ORIGINAL: undercovergeek
out of interest, without much experience in the field - if you were to correctly scale all ships and obviously had the biggest pic for CVs just how small would a DD be next to the CV?
You can find out. IIRC the formula used was (ship length in feet)*0.165 + 45 pixels
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:37 pm
by undercovergeek
ORIGINAL: Terminus
Well, if you look at the pics John posted, you have your answer.
that actually is the size of a dd compared to a CV? wow - i thought they would be huge
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:47 pm
by JWE
ORIGINAL: undercovergeek
that actually is the size of a dd compared to a CV? wow - i thought they would be huge
The game scale factor does make smaller ships relatively larger than an IRL linear scale would. Otherwise you probably couldn’t even see them. Here’s a Ticonderoga with a game scale Simms, a game scale Elco 77’ and a Simms and Elco rendered at actual scale.

RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:17 pm
by Don Bowen
ORIGINAL: JWE
The game scale factor does make smaller ships relatively larger than an IRL linear scale would. Otherwise you probably couldn’t even see them. Here’s a Ticonderoga with a game scale Simms, a game scale Elco 77’ and a Simms and Elco rendered at actual scale.
It's purely an artwork question (an area in which "I have no talent" must be written in bold), but it might be nice to have the
sides enlarged but the
shills true size??
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:26 pm
by JWE
ORIGINAL: Don Bowen
It's purely an artwork question (an area in which "I have no talent" must be written in bold), but it might be nice to have the sides enlarged but the shills true size??
Well, there's only about a thousand pics, but ... a shopping bag filled with large denomination bills might do the trick.
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:55 pm
by Don Bowen
ORIGINAL: JWE
ORIGINAL: Don Bowen
It's purely an artwork question (an area in which "I have no talent" must be written in bold), but it might be nice to have the sides enlarged but the shills true size??
Well, there's only about a thousand pics, but ... a shopping bag filled with large denomination bills might do the trick.
Sorry, I no longer have a shopping bag. I'm divorced.
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:06 pm
by SuluSea
The artwork I see here is nothing short of fantastic. Thanks for your time and sharing, Many thanks!![&o][&o][&o]
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:56 pm
by JWE
Just wait till you see what AE has in store. There's maybe a thousand new pieces of art - all the upgrades and conversions, oh my. Then there's all the 'after market' stuff done by the artists, with camo patterns on a year to year basis. Woof !
I think only God, or maybe Kelley (TomLabel) knows just how many thousands of art options there will be. But in any case, the idea was to morph the art as ya'll morphed the ships. Think we got that done. Thanks for the kudos. We aim to serve.
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:11 am
by TOMLABEL
Man, with all stuff done by you and Big B, I stopped counting long ago! [:D][:)][8D]
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:19 pm
by Cathartes
The AE ship art is delicious and fully satisfyin', but you will be forever wondering how they put them all together inside those little rectangles.
If you like beer and salty snacks, the ships go very well with that!
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 3:57 pm
by Dixie
Just because I'm bored and still waiting for AE, HMS Glenearn...

RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:11 pm
by JWE
Yep, the Glens are in there. Also got some Star Lines boats that show up from time to time.
Ya'll want to see some pics? I have lots of beer and a bunch of salty snacks, and can probably skweze them into a teensy rectangle or two.
RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:21 am
by GaryChildress
Cathartes is obviously the king of plane sides. I was wondering how his plane sides would look sharpened a little more. What do others think? On the right is the original and on the left has been sharpened using PSP. Just curious.
NOTE: JPG format adds distortion to the pictures.

RE: Standardized Artwork Set
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:13 am
by DuckofTindalos
This is just my take on it, but I think the sharpened sides look too "defined" somehow. Not to my taste.