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That's not a bad idea. As for his deception, we don't have any way of reflecting that in the game currently.

Ewell "old baldy" did his best service for the CSA while as a division commander under Jackson...so maybe some of the same traits of Jackson

Jackson has Disciplined, Fast, Resilient, Hardy, Shooters. Do you think any of those should apply to Ewell?

On a related note, another change we're making for the patch is to have the abilities Dreaded (erodes enemy morale by .25) and Heroes (raises friendly units' morale .25) more rare, since they are so powerful. We've done this by making it so that these are no longer available as random abilities for generals (when playing with historical generals; they're still available for randomized generals), and can only be taught by generals to whom they have been assigned in the commanders.txt file. (Heroes and Dreaded are still available to certain Legendary Units. This change is partly intended to make LU's more valuable.) So, the question is, which generals should be able to teach these two abilities? I am deliberately not assigning them to Grant or Lee, since we don't want an entire army in which 20% or more of the brigades have Heroes or Dreaded (since that would create quite an imbalance), so I'm trying to choose generals who are less likely to lead armies rather than corps or divisions.

Right now, the only Dreaded general I have is Forrest (CSA) and H.J. Hunt (USA), while Heroes goes to A.P. Hill and Armistead for the CSA and Hancock, Chamberlain and Thomas for the USA. Ideally, we'd have one more CSA general with Heroes and a total of 4-6 generals with Dreaded. Any suggestions? Should Stuart get Dreaded, too?

Pope was a very aggressive general. Halleck kept having to make it stop as they inched toward Corinth and then put him in charge of pursuit afterwards. His overaggressiveness got him in trouble at 2nd Man. With faulty intell, he kept sending the whole army first in one direction and then in another. Maybe "Fast" is the right skill.

Is there some skill for stealth or deception or anything else sly. Magruder did it more than one on the Penin, and Beauregard did it masterfully at Corinth. (I guess there isn't a trait for gradiose strategic ideas!) EDIT: Oops, I see Gil says there is no skill of this description. Well, maybe whatever is closest to it. It is a kind of tactical ability. Maybe just something like maneuverability.

ORIGINAL: Gil R.


Right now, the only Dreaded general I have is Forrest (CSA) and H.J. Hunt (USA), while Heroes goes to A.P. Hill and Armistead for the CSA and Hancock, Chamberlain and Thomas for the USA. Ideally, we'd have one more CSA general with Heroes and a total of 4-6 generals with Dreaded. Any suggestions? Should Stuart get Dreaded, too?

I don't know much about Cleburne, but I have seen him described as the best division commander in either army.

What about Longstreet as one for Heroes? I do not know which abilities he has but his confidence, calm and care for his men affected his men. Before Pickett's Charge during the artillery duell, he rode along the line of his men and helped them to calm down just like Hancock did with his men.

I would not credit Chamberlain too much. He was a well educated soldier, a great example for an inspiring leader, but he played only a minor role in the war. Without the movie "Gettysburg" he and his soldiers from Maine would not be as popular as they are now.

What about Longstreet as one for Heroes? I do not know which abilities he has but his confidence, calm and care for his men affected his men. Before Pickett's Charge during the artillery duell, he rode along the line of his men and helped them to calm down just like Hancock did with his men.

I would not credit Chamberlain too much. He was a well educated soldier, a great example for an inspiring leader, but he played only a minor role in the war. Without the movie "Gettysburg" he and his soldiers from Maine would not be as popular as they are now.

Didn't Chamberlin go on to command a Brigade, a Division, and then possibly a Corps?? He was wounded about 5-times also, and was very well known and repsected during the ACW, and the 20th Maine did save the Union left flank at Gettysburg, and in the process effectively put ot of action one Alabama Regiment for a short time.

Perhaps Chamberlin is a good candidate for the Heroes and Staeadfast (I think that is the name??) attributes.

Personally, I think Cleburne is too, along with Lee, Jackson, maybe Longstreet as someone else mentioned, and for the Union perhaps Thomas, Chamberlin, maybe Grant, Custer and Stuart for Heroes and Wild but not Steadfast, and NB Forrest probably for Heroes and Steadfast and Dreaded. Dreaded is a hard one to determine who gets it. Maybe Custer should also have Dreaded, because he was dreaded, and a big fellow to boot. Forrest was also a large man, and personally killed about 20 or so Yanks.

'That devil Forrest!!' as Sherman stated. 'Forrest and the whole pack of devils turned loose!', something like that.

I guess we can mod these to our own interpretation anyway.

Chris

Hi Gil,


I would purely gaming wise take an interest in how high the leadership rating of the generals which you give heroes/dreaded.
It determains how "easy" it is to teach the abilty(less other wise changed in patch) for whom ever has it. So IMO that is as an importand factor as how high they will go command wise. Balance wise too.
I applude the removal from the obvious leaders like Jackson and Lee. Just saying give notice to the leadership rating too, when you hand it out to the few generals who gets it, its an just an importand factor.
I'd say no for giving Heroes too Forrest for those reasons tho he comes atleased pre patch late into the game. Longstreet i'd be doubtfull about for same reason's. Heroes wise.

When u say u thinking about giving Thomas from US side Heroes do u mean G.H. Thomas or? again if so he about the 3rd best US commander and comes early. I'd personaly make him army commander the instand he comes along since you'd from mid 62 have at leased 2 if not 3 armies. I'd take that over atleased Sherman if i get an army commander that can teach heroes and a fairly high Leadership rating. Just my opinion.


Kind Regards,

Rasmus

ORIGINAL: jkBluesman

What about Longstreet as one for Heroes? I do not know which abilities he has but his confidence, calm and care for his men affected his men. Before Pickett's Charge during the artillery duell, he rode along the line of his men and helped them to calm down just like Hancock did with his men.

I would not credit Chamberlain too much. He was a well educated soldier, a great example for an inspiring leader, but he played only a minor role in the war. Without the movie "Gettysburg" he and his soldiers from Maine would not be as popular as they are now.

Chamberlain's a 25-percenter (as is Hunt), so it's okay. Plus, in his own day he was one of the most celebrated Civil War officers until the day he died. Also, he arrives very late in the game (Turn 82), so giving him Heroes can't have the same impact as giving it to someone who's there at the start. So, I think it's okay to keep that ability for him.

Perhaps Chamberlin is a good candidate for the Heroes and Staeadfast (I think that is the name??) attributes.

I gave him Heroes, Sustained Volley (25% fewer casualties when firing on enemy) and Brave (can charge without change of fire-fight). I guess I could give him Steady, too.

I guess we can mod these to our own interpretation anyway.

Yes, modding is encouraged. (Far better than having people play with ratings and abilities they don't like.) And modding this particular file is incredibly easy.

ORIGINAL: Walloc

Hi Gil,


I would purely gaming wise take an interest in how high the leadership rating of the generals which you give heroes/dreaded.
It determains how "easy" it is to teach the abilty(less other wise changed in patch) for whom ever has it. So IMO that is as an importand factor as how high they will go command wise. Balance wise too.

I agree that it's important, but I'm not sure if you're encouraging that I give the abilities to guys with higher or lower Leadership ratings.

I applude the removal from the obvious leaders like Jackson and Lee. Just saying give notice to the leadership rating too, when you hand it out to the few generals who gets it, its an just an importand factor.
I'd say no for giving Heroes too Forrest for those reasons tho he comes atleased pre patch late into the game. Longstreet i'd be doubtfull about for same reason's. Heroes wise.

Forrest now appears in Turn 36 (July 1862). I'm not sure what that number is in the initial release.

When u say u thinking about giving Thomas from US side Heroes do u mean G.H. Thomas or? again if so he about the 3rd best US commander and comes early. I'd personaly make him army commander the instand he comes along since you'd from mid 62 have at leased 2 if not 3 armies. I'd take that over atleased Sherman if i get an army commander that can teach heroes and a fairly high Leadership rating. Just my opinion.

Yes, George Thomas. Thomas does have four other ratings, so if he's going to teach a rating there's just a 20% chance that it's Heroes. I think it's okay for one general who'd be a candidate for army command to have this ability or Dreaded, but if Thomas, Sherman, Sheridan and Grant ALL had it that would be bad.

I gave him Heroes, Sustained Volley (25% fewer casualties when firing on enemy) and Brave (can charge without change of fire-fight). I guess I could give him Steady, too.

Those are good ones you gave him. I can't remember all of them, and in fact don't knwo all of the attributes!! Those add-up to Steady I would think.

Just got my new BTX fan in the mail, along wih 2GB DDR2 PC5300 667MHz RAM, so now I can finish assembling my new comptooter. [:)] I still need to get 2GB more of RAM. My old one works fine now with 3GB DDR 266MHz RAM and a 400FSB 478 Pin 512Kb L2 cache 2.5GHz Northwood Core P4, so my new compooter with a 3.8GHz Prescott core 775 pin 800FSB 1MB L2 cache with Hyperthreading should smoke, and I won't have to turn off the smoke in the game, but even on my old compooter with the 2.5GHz CPU overclocked to 2.8GHz along with the RAM being overclocked a bit all running at 112MHz instaead of 100MHz the battlefield smoke doesn't usually affect the speed too much. I have to shut off the smoke mainly because I can't see too good with my 4-5 or 6-year old prescription bifocals. Next week I think I will have to get new eyeglasses. My poor eyeballs actually do ache a bit now. Should have done this awhile back methinks.

That old Northwood core P4 is very good and fast, even at 400 to 448FSB speed. Sometimes some testing programs that come with games or free downloads identify it as having Hyperthreading which it doesn't!! It does have the Intel Netburst architecture though, so that must be close to Hyperthreading.

Have a good day, I also got a $70 rebate for WinXP that I bought last September, meaning I paid only about $36 bucks for it, and add that to the whole $2 I got back from my Dentist for some reason (but I didn't any of my teeth or parts there of back [8|]) equals a decent day for me. Plus all the ice and snow is melting. [:)] Not bad.

Chris

Oops. I was going from memory in stating what "Dreaded" does, and as one of you pointed out, it actually doubles morale damage, instead of causing a fixed amount of damage.

ORIGINAL: christof139

What about Longstreet as one for Heroes? I do not know which abilities he has but his confidence, calm and care for his men affected his men. Before Pickett's Charge during the artillery duell, he rode along the line of his men and helped them to calm down just like Hancock did with his men.

I would not credit Chamberlain too much. He was a well educated soldier, a great example for an inspiring leader, but he played only a minor role in the war. Without the movie "Gettysburg" he and his soldiers from Maine would not be as popular as they are now.

Didn't Chamberlin go on to command a Brigade, a Division, and then possibly a Corps?? He was wounded about 5-times also, and was very well known and repsected during the ACW, and the 20th Maine did save the Union left flank at Gettysburg, and in the process effectively put ot of action one Alabama Regiment for a short time.

Perhaps Chamberlin is a good candidate for the Heroes and Staeadfast (I think that is the name??) attributes.

Personally, I think Cleburne is too, along with Lee, Jackson, maybe Longstreet as someone else mentioned, and for the Union perhaps Thomas, Chamberlin, maybe Grant, Custer and Stuart for Heroes and Wild but not Steadfast, and NB Forrest probably for Heroes and Steadfast and Dreaded. Dreaded is a hard one to determine who gets it. Maybe Custer should also have Dreaded, because he was dreaded, and a big fellow to boot. Forrest was also a large man, and personally killed about 20 or so Yanks.

'That devil Forrest!!' as Sherman stated. 'Forrest and the whole pack of devils turned loose!', something like that.

I guess we can mod these to our own interpretation anyway.

Chris

Chamberlain commanded a brigade at he end of the war.

Chamberlain commanded a brigade at he end of the war.

Yes, thanx. I actually used Wiki to check this out. Chamberlin was only brevetted to Major General by Lincoln, and commanded only a Brigade at the end of the war. I must have been thinking of G. Warren in the mix.

Thanx again for the quick info., Chris

In the battle of Five Forks, he commanded two brigades but his rank was the same. After the surrender, he commanded a division and then attained the rank of MG with the recommendations of Meade and Grant.(per the memorial tribute of 1914).

Right now, the only Dreaded general I have is Forrest (CSA) and H.J. Hunt (USA),

I agree with Hunt, how about Longstreet for the CSA and Sherman for US. Sherman commanded an army, but Longstreet never really exercised independent command. When I think of people you didn't want attacking you, those two come to mind.

Maybe Upton for the Union?

ORIGINAL: Drex

In the battle of Five Forks, he commanded two brigades but his rank was the same. After the surrender, he commanded a division and then attained the rank of MG with the recommendations of Meade and Grant.(per the memorial tribute of 1914).

He had the Brevet Rank of Major General. That's an honorary rank which entitled him to be addressed as Major General but nothing else. He had the pay and responsibilities of a Brigadier General. Brevet ranks were the Civil War equivalent of the medals soldiers receive today.