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RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:49 am
by Peter Stauffenberg
Is disorganized the same as what we called "flipped" in WIFFE? You can become flipped after ground strikes, combat results where you don't get an asterisk result (*) etc. You use an HQ during an impuse to unflip units or you use oil at the end of the turn to unflip units. Is this the same as disorganization? I guess the MWIF units don't flip and show a reverse counter side.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:57 am
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: Borger Borgersen
Is disorganized the same as what we called "flipped" in WIFFE? You can become flipped after ground strikes, combat results where you don't get an asterisk result (*) etc. You use an HQ during an impuse to unflip units or you use oil at the end of the turn to unflip units. Is this the same as disorganization? I guess the MWIF units don't flip and show a reverse counter side.
Yes. Disorganized = Flipped = Face Down.
This is consistent with the HQ re-organizing.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:03 am
by Neilster
ORIGINAL: Borger Borgersen
Is disorganized the same as what we called "flipped" in WIFFE? You can become flipped after ground strikes, combat results where you don't get an asterisk result (*) etc. You use an HQ during an impuse to unflip units or you use oil at the end of the turn to unflip units. Is this the same as disorganization? I guess the MWIF units don't flip and show a reverse counter side.
Disorganized units will be shown using the status indicators.
Cheers, Neilster
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:53 am
by bredsjomagnus
In tutorail page 8 it says that the defending Italians have 4 combat factors instead of 9. Shouldn´t that be 4 combat factors instead of 8?
/Magnus
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:59 am
by Darken
Greetings,
perhaps You could change the seven buttons on the right top of the tutorials like this?
Thanks for Your interest.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:13 pm
by Peter Stauffenberg
ORIGINAL: Darken
Greetings,
perhaps You could change the seven buttons on the right top of the tutorials like this?
Thanks for Your interest.
Good idea. [:)] The way you show the buttons is more intuitive. But I wonder if Steve has created a lot of diffent forms with the names, symbols and shapes the same way as for the buttons used in the tutorials. That means it's a l
ot of work to change them.
The most important thing is to have a
consistent use of dialog boxes, buttons, names etc. I have no problems getting used to almost anything as long as I can expect all the forms to look similar.
The forms were created and discussed on the forum a long time ago (more than 1 year ago). The reason for that was to agree upon a standard way of creating all the forms Steve needed to create. Now that work is finished based upon what we agreed upon that time. But it's never too late to change things if there is a very good reason to do so. Only Steve can answer whether it's feasible or not to change the buttons to be similar to your suggestion.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:34 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: Darken
Greetings,
perhaps You could change the seven buttons on the right top of the tutorials like this?
Thanks for Your interest.
I hadn't considered that. It wouldn't be difficult to change.
However, ...
I prefer words to symbols. That is probably inconsiderate of the non-English speakers.[:(]
Though I understand these symbols, I only just learned them in the last year, and I am still not real comfortable with them. Since I work with computers continuously (and have done so for decades), I wonder if less experienced computer users would know what they mean.
I arranged the buttons so it would be easiest to click on Next Page. I expect that button to be selected 6-8 times more often than all the others combined and by isolating it, I prevent unintended clicks on the others.
I think I'll leave this as is. But it is good for me to be exposed to other viewpoints and possiblities, so thank you for your suggestion.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:46 pm
by composer99
A comment on the Supply Tutorial page with the CW set up to blow away the Italians in Sardinia:
Either on that page, or perhaps earlier in the tutorial, the abbrevation OOS should be introduced as standing for out of supply.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:54 pm
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: Darken
perhaps You could change the seven buttons on the right top of the tutorials like this?
I like these.
Lots of webpages have similar buttons already, they are clear for me in their meaning.
A tooltips can also write a text that will remove any doubt if there are.
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:14 pm
by bredsjomagnus
With the risk of being nagging...
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Second and last in series.
Doesn´t the Italian 5-3 and 3-1 unit togheter become 8? Or is there a rule I don´t know of?
/Magnus
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:09 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: bredsjomagnus
With the risk of being nagging...
Doesn´t the Italian 5-3 and 3-1 unit togheter become 8? Or is there a rule I don´t know of?
/Magnus
It looked like a 6-1 to me. Patrice?
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:16 pm
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: bredsjomagnus
With the risk of being nagging...
Doesn´t the Italian 5-3 and 3-1 unit togheter become 8? Or is there a rule I don´t know of?
/Magnus
It looked like a 6-1 to me. Patrice?
This is the all mighty Italian XVth GARR Corps, which is a 5-1 from 1940 from countersheet 4 [:D]
RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:46 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
We have been making some changes so here are the first 10 pages (some new, some old, some revised).

RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:48 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
Obviously the new items are the abstracts.

RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:49 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
Nothing new here. it's included for completeness.

RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:51 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
I defined OOS in the text.

RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:52 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
The abstract does good work here.

RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:54 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
Patrice took all the screen shots, including the abstract graphics. [&o][&o][&o][&o]
(Perhaps he'll rotate the text for us[;)]).

RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:56 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
I believe this is unchanged from previously.

RE: Supply Tutorial - #9
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:57 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
Here the abstract helps too.
