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RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:30 am
by T_K
File sent to France.

Now I think I forgot to give out some peace cards... sorry it's my first pbem game at all - but it does say "for noobs" in the title... [:'(]

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:25 am
by Delyn Locksmiths
Aye Woodruff, join, and punish Herr Bulldog for his ignorance. [;)] He has been trying to bully Russia into supporting his conquest of Europe.

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:29 am
by BULLDOGINTHEUK
Woodruff, don't get your knickers in a twist its just a game [;)][/align] [/align]This was my post on 1/01/08[/align] [/align]
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Should be able to start a game tomorrow, at the latest Friday. Can people who already have slots and are going to play PM the player before them in the list with their E-Mail address so that they can send their turn once the game starts. You can start doing this now if you like.
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[/align]Thanks peeps
[/align] [/align]There had to be some cut off date as most players wanted to start the game. Sorry if you felt that we started too soon but we hadn't heard from you for a number of days and Delyn hadn't received your E-Mail address. Please let Delyn know what you and Slowhand decide so that he can send his turn.
[/align] [/align]With regards to Delyn's cheeky comment about me trying to gain Russia's favour this is another of Britain's terrible propaganda lies, one of many I may add. In any case, how could I contact Russia, nobody has been available to play them until now! [:-][/align]

Shame on you Delyn.

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:08 am
by Delyn Locksmiths
You can see yourself how keen he was to install a puppet regime in your place Woodruff. [;)]

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:51 am
by Woodruff
My thanks to Slowhand for his willingness to step back aside once I was made aware that the game had started, however once I was dismissed from this game so quickly, I joined another.

As I have no interest in playing two games at once, I will remain away from this one and I certainly wish Slowhand well in it.

I wanted to post a public message so that everyone would know to contact him as Russia.

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:21 am
by BULLDOGINTHEUK
Woodruff, thanks for the post. Sorry you couldn't join us. Perhaps next time. Good luck in your new game.[/align] [/align]
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RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:19 pm
by MrLongleg
Turn sent to Great Britain

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:00 pm
by Delyn Locksmiths
Anybody know if I need an HHQ in Ireland? If I produce something in Dublin, can i deposit it in London?

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:13 pm
by BULLDOGINTHEUK
I believe it automatically transfers it for you without the need to build HQ (or does it! lol).[:'(]

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:19 pm
by mllange
I'm no expert, (as I've stated), but there are situations where ship production away from your HQ will result in the completed ship 'waiting' for a nearby HQ to deliver it to. I've tried producing ships away from my HQ port and they never arrived... I'll try to read up a bit more for an answer.

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:28 pm
by Delyn Locksmiths
LOL I have the turn open, and with the German Wolf just a short ship ride away, I don't want to risk losing production in my first tuen [:D]

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:29 pm
by Delyn Locksmiths
Also, I'm offered the chance to e.g. Build a ship in Dublin, so what's the point of shipwarves? Can they ONLY produce ships, and other cities can produce anything? 

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:50 pm
by mllange
Based on Tweber's replies in another thread, it appears so.

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:40 pm
by Delyn Locksmiths
Done and sent to slowhand. It's certainly a lot of fun with so many human players around.

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:36 pm
by GrumpyMel
Delyn,
 
            I believe the way it works with over-seas production is that as long as you have an open ship lane you can produce anything BUT ships in the overseas production center and it'll show up in the recieving HQ. The ships Produced in the overseas Production center will instead attach to a unit in the Production Centers hex. Anyway that's how it seemed to work when I tried a test game.
 
Mel

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:30 pm
by Delyn Locksmiths
Thanks Mel. I build ships in Dublin. But never mind, I can create a unit to carry them over to London no doubt.

The way diplomacy has gone, I'm glad there's a channel between me and the mess on the continent!

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:08 pm
by SlowHand
OK, I'm up and downed my coffee: I am about to open the turn.
 
1. Russia of course has no territorial ambitions on our fellow peace-loving Nations. We would not attack anyone --- on Turn 1 at least
 
2. Lots of bellicose talk has aroused the Tsar's concerns, and we remind our fellow Sovereigns that Russia has mighty Armies to defend the Rodina. And cold Winters.
 
3. Do any parties have any Diplomatic Arrangements they wish to declare? Secret deals will be looked at unkindly by the International Community. Post-war Tribunals will of course punish any evil-doers.
 
 

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:44 am
by SlowHand
Apologies for the delay. My normally _very_ reliable ISP was/is having conn problems.
 
I just manged to get my turn uploaded (500+KB) and sent my turn off to Turkey (Therockyfroggy)
 
@ BULLDOG (and others): Should we create a new thread in the AAR section of the AT forum, and start posting comments (and occasional pics) there?  We might pick up a derisive Peanut Gallery. An appropriate thread title and copy/paste of the post about the set-up and turn order?
 
 

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:16 am
by mllange
I'm game for the AAR ... do we want to include a two-turn delay or go realtime?

RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs)

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:28 am
by SlowHand
ORIGINAL: Delyn Locksmiths
Also, I'm offered the chance to e.g. Build a ship in Dublin, so what's the point of ship warves? Can they ONLY produce ships, and other cities can produce anything? 
Yes to the "only produce ships" and a qualified yes to "other cities can produce anything?" questions. At least some Nations have "Supply Base town/cities" which only produce Supply and PPs. And finally, the "point of ship wharves" is that they are hexes where you can port fleets for re-supply, or create new Naval Units.

2 other things you can do when you build new ships at a City Port:

(1) "Transfer" the ships (the T-Hotkey) where they are built to a unit at sea or another port. Given the high 20-hex range of this scenario's Naval units, you can send them quite far. BUT, be sure the Transfer Lane isn't interdicted by an enemy's Anti-supply efforts --- losing a BB or a Cruiser that way is painful. Note that the unit receiving the transfer will have its Formation APs set to zero, so be sure to finish your Naval Movement before doing so. Individual sub-units of the receiving Formation retain their AP, and could still be used, but you would need to create a new unit (and hence be in a Wharf or Port city) and then dump the just-transferred units into the new unit. This burns a PP, but you might wish to do so to have

(2) Create a new HQ unit in the producing Naval-Only City, if the situation warrants. You can then use that HQ unit with some Cargo ships to transfer (via the T-Hotkey again) Naval Supplies to your fleets at sea, thus allowing them to stay at sea. You could also assign another city to that HQ so that supplies and new ships would go directly there IF the path is not interdicted by Enemy Anti-Supply. In that case, some/many/all Supplies are lost, and Unit production is "bottled up" in the production queue of the 2nd city.